Significant lesson learnt by new 1200GSA owner

Mark Hooton said:
Guys, anyone got any idea on how to remove the side stand? i`ve got the circlip off, switch blah blah blah and the bolt out but there is a bush `init` and i can`t get the sodding thing out!

Any ideas?

:confused:
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Big ammer. Must be one laying about in your workshop somewhere. ;)
 
Mark Hooton said:
Guys, anyone got any idea on how to remove the side stand? i`ve got the circlip off, switch blah blah blah and the bolt out but there is a bush `init` and i can`t get the sodding thing out!

Any ideas?

:confused:
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You have to be tough with the thing and bush is very tight. Oh, it only comes out one way if I recall:thumb
 
Not personally tried to remove the sidestand bushing, is it in a shouldered hole or is it parallel all the way through (can you see the bush from both sides?).

If a shouldered hole, you will either have to drift it out from behind or use an expandable puller to extract it. If a parallel hole just use a old socket of the correct size to drift it, and get a large hammer out. Perhaps the use of a hot air gun to expand things might help, but be careful not to burn anything.

Basically, its called percussion engineering.
 
Dainese Brave said:
No doubt they did.....but it's better distributed on the center stand.
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+1, better balanced on side stand. Plus I don't understand those that put their bike on the side stand and turn the bars all the way to the left. Surely this is a much more unstable position than bars turned to the left in 99% of situations? :nenau
 
snerkler said:
+1, better balanced on side stand. Plus I don't understand those that put their bike on the side stand and turn the bars all the way to the left. Surely this is a much more unstable position than bars turned to the left in 99% of situations? :nenau
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When a bike is on the side stand, the bars want to naturally flop to the left. If they move on their own, the bike will move a little. By shifting the bars to the left when you park it, it stops this movement. Also, some bikes the steering lock ONLY works on left lock...

Ps. IMHO you can squeeze a little bit more fuel in when the bike is on the centre stand.
 
I sit on mine when filling up to ensure it's brimmed every time.

Getting the bike off the top stand is a huge effort that I haven't quite got used to yet.
 
RideTheWind said:
I don't really notice the difference to be honest. I am a big strong tosser tho. :eek: dial yourself in and enjoy the bike. Wait till you ride it hard in the wet. They are amazing. Once you are used to the weight you will soon be filling up the panniers and adding a tent and that's when braking gets interesting:eek:enjoy !
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i prefer the brakes on my 1150 when its fully laden and two up
thats cos theyre sh1te IMO
bloomin servo garabage :mmmm
 
AdamA said:
If the side stand is strong enough, why does that matter? :confused:
You could argue it's better distributed on the side stand also. The three points of contact are further apart, making a more stable base...
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I wouldn't agree with that....the weight may be distributed more in a triangle configeration (2 wheels and side stand), as opposed to the center stand (2 wheels and center stand in line), but I'd argue that the weight is more evenly distributed when on the center stand.

On the side stand, gravity must distribute far more weight onto the sidestand, as opposed to the two wheels, and onto a smaller contact point. This raises another problem....sinking!!

At the end of the day I use which method best suits where I am parked at the time.....but the center stand is always my first choice.

:thumb2
 
Dainese Brave said:
I wouldn't agree with that....the weight may be distributed more in a triangle configeration (2 wheels and side stand), as opposed to the center stand (2 wheels and center stand in line), but I'd argue that the weight is more evenly distributed when on the center stand.

On the side stand, gravity must distribute far more weight onto the sidestand, as opposed to the two wheels, and onto a smaller contact point. This raises another problem....sinking!!
Whatever:augie
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Pukmeister said:
I dropped mine within days of taking ownership, fully fuelled whilst climbing aboard on a heavily cambered side street in Portsmouth.:blast

With the wonder of hindsight, I should have wheeled it into the crown of the road before mounting the steed. Luckily the RH pannier and RH engine bar hit the high kerbstones (causing a minor dent).

If she's gonna go over, trust me you ain't gonna save her, just jump clear otherwise you could well hurt yourself.
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Amen brother - 3 days after getting the new bike - was doing deliveries of tooltubes - spot the mistake..... pavement was cambered, so the bike was actually standing straight up. Pulled a bungee away from the s/stand and she just went over onto the tarmac......... :blast

Was gutted but ended up laughing (what else can one do) - 70km on the clock, BUT had to say in a way it got rid of the apprehension one has with a new bike. I was also amazed at how well the bike falls. Absolute minimal damage - merely some small scratches on the pannier bars at the back and on the handguard, mirror & tip of windscreen.

My bit of advice - make sure you are on stable ground and concentrate when you get onto the bike. Loose your footing and down you go........ watch out for petrol stations - always lots of oil around!
 

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Goose, were you fully fuelled??

I picked mine up with the aid of my 10 year old son, I almost felt my spine ripping out of my back trying to get the bike up the first few degrees (and yes, I do know how to lift a GS). Thankfully due to my panniers my bike didn't go over as far as your bike did.

Nice colour BTW.:thumb
 
Goose said:
Amen brother - 3 days after getting the new bike - was doing deliveries of tooltubes - spot the mistake..... pavement was cambered, so the bike was actually standing straight up. Pulled a bungee away from the s/stand and she just went over onto the tarmac......... :blast

Was gutted but ended up laughing (what else can one do) - 70km on the clock, BUT had to say in a way it got rid of the apprehension one has with a new bike. I was also amazed at how well the bike falls. Absolute minimal damage - merely some small scratches on the pannier bars at the back and on the handguard, mirror & tip of windscreen.

My bit of advice - make sure you are on stable ground and concentrate when you get onto the bike. Loose your footing and down you go........ watch out for petrol stations - always lots of oil around!
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How many days later did you ,manage to lift her up again? I'm carrying a foil blanket and a thermos in mine, working on the principle it will take 72 hours for me to lift her up again when it happens.
 
Picking up GSA

First week of ownership last April. Fully loaded panniers and top box plus other bits strapped on, full tank of fuel two up, outside house just leaving London for Crete. Didn't realise how high kerb was we had to cross. Not enough gas. Once bike tips over no way of holding it. Went over .

Night before had watched video posted by a tosser of cop lifting a full dressed harley road king. Now he was a big bloke but he brought on a colleague, a tiny lady cop, who also lifted it with ease.

Tried their method. Back to bike. Grasp end of bar with one hand and convenient bit of frame with other hand. Keep back straight and walk bakwards. Bike came up with ease (and I'm 68 albeit fairly fit) In fact be careful you don't push it over on the other side, it comes up that easily. In fact if it's on its right side it's worth putting side stand down to avoid this.

The only damage I have ever been able to find is a small scuff on one of the plastic corners of the pannier.
 
If you drop the bike and cant lift it,, just get down on the ground beside it.. someone passing will stop and you can get them to help lift it :augie
 
Pukmeister said:
Goose, were you fully fuelled??

I picked mine up with the aid of my 10 year old son, I almost felt my spine ripping out of my back trying to get the bike up the first few degrees (and yes, I do know how to lift a GS). Thankfully due to my panniers my bike didn't go over as far as your bike did.

Nice colour BTW.:thumb
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Yep - was a full tank!
My wife was in more of a state than I was and could not understand why I was laughing instead of crying :mad:
My neighbour who got his bike same day, came running over with his son and helped to lift the bike... :thumb
 
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