Small number plate.

[MikeO]

Umm, let's see....

But thanks for pointing out how unsympathetic you are to what is a very minor infraction compared to the wholesale theft of bikes, burglaries and assaults on our streets.

...how about there? Or do you want credit for not having done something worse?

MikeO

ps Leave Flossie out of this...

 

[simon thomas]

Flossie...Kleenex....Mmmmmmm!

The number plate thread enlightened, this humble GS pilot with regard to UK legislation...but now things have taken a tantalising twist?

All within the space of 3 post's, we see two proud members (Oooh Eerr) discussing Kleenex and Flossy, come on that's got to make you grin

Eddie, just curios, did you get stopped on both occasions because of your small plate or were they simply doing random stops, and you got unlucky?

Cheers
Simon T

PS. Mike when your through with flossy, send her round. Out of interest do you go from on top (easier to kiss em) or from behind?

 

[City Slicker]

Eddie, just curious, did you get stopped on both occasions because of your small plate or were they simply doing random stops, and you got unlucky?

Both instances I was aware of them before they saw me and was riding accordingly.

The London stop seemed entirely random - 7.15am they must have been just bored. No other reason to stop. Did not inspect bike. They just saw small plate and bingo!

The Hampshire stop was on a pleasant weekday afternoon and a traffic car was parked up. Stopped politely and again only discussed the plate.

Like I said, there's no consistency in how they handle this. I'd prefer it if they rigidly enforced this particular law then we'd all know where we stood.

Why don't they stop the yuppies who couldn't afford a decent personalised plate but attempt to make 13 look like a letter B?

Or the gang bangers driving BMWs with whacky typefaces that you cannot read?

A week after I replaced my plate for the legal one I was parked up next to lovely R1 with a french-style bike plate on and the rear end looked gorgeous. Will that guy get stopped and made to change it? While I hope not, it did peeve me that I got tugged twice for a considerably larger plate.

I would take a guess that most bikes plates do not comply with the law, and many, many 'personalised' plates on cars too. The rules are quite exact:

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm

Many of you with the dealers name on the plate, a GB or other sticker, or incorrect spacing fall foul, as do those who, while trying to make the plate look cool, split the characters into incorrect groups.

Good luck if you decide to tinker with your plate. I won't because as has already been pointed out it attaracts unwanted attention. But I long for the day that I move to France and can live a little easier on the roads.

 

[BAKERMAN]

Save money on personlized number plates, just change your name to match the plate you already own.

 

[MikeO]

Re: Flossie...Kleenex....Mmmmmmm!

PS. Mike when your through with flossy, send her round. Out of interest do you go from on top (easier to kiss em) or from behind?

Flossie (she gets upset when you mis-spell her name) and I aren't on speaking terms I'm afraid. I'm not really surprised, the relationship was getting stale - lately I'd had to insist we did it at the edge of a cliff, so that she pushed back like she really meant it.....

MikeO

 

[Malky]

Save money on personlized number plates, just change your name to match the plate you already own.

But I can't change my name to B45TRD I would not be F41RRR (Scotsman love their RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRs don't you know) or have no imagination one of the two.

For the Scotsman reading who just were offended - I am one.

 

[Keith Chapman]

Malky is that RRRRs or Arse?

 

[Malky]

Malky is that RRRRs or Arse?

Great minds think alike. I almost posted a caveat to avoid this interpretation, but it all just got too messy. So this morning I read your post - my reaction there has to be one, just typical.

Look it would be ARRRRRRRRRRRRRSE. Anyhow ever read Spike Milligan's "Hilter and my part in his downfall ?" Too funny for words the only thing I have ever read with so many rrrrrrrrrrr's that pokes fun a My fellow countryman and gets away with it. But then he could get away with just about anything.

Anyhow off to teach my kids to say RRRRRRRRRRRogerrrrrrrrr Rrrrrrrrrabbit. Some place names will follow later, one guess what is top of the list.

Oh Mrs what big R's you have - Carry On Rsing about they should have made that one.

 

[robbo]

My question is why attract attention of the cops either with an illegal number plate or a personal plate?
If their bored or trying to meet their quota..youre it other wise they'll look at another motorist

 

[Duncan]

Yes, lets all ride identical bikes, NEVER exceed the speed limit, never overtake on the inside (especially on motorways), never cross/straddle a solid white line etc, etc, etc. I'm sure everyone out there has infringed on some law at some time or other. I was stopped on a perfectly sunny day, when the GS was a week old, and therefore completely legal & being run in so not speeding either.......why? 'cos lots of other bikers had killed themselves on that particular road.

P.S. Just for the record, if the Police confiscate your number plate it makes no difference to you riding the bike. If your plate is undersized it is not a number plate in the eyes of the law and you should therefore not be riding the bike anyway. i.e. small plate/no plate same offence.

There rant mode off now........

 

[BAKERMAN]

Whats the point in a small plate, I have a bad boy REMUS can, and ride everywhere I should not at speeds that are not in the HIGHWAY CODE.

So why give the Police a reason to pull you, I also wear a Sam Brown, only becuase everybody looks in there mirror, see a big bike and move over. SIMPLE.

I read the Daily Star because my builder leaves it on the staires when he goes home, I never drink out of cans, and my freinds are all a bit usefull.

My granny was welsh, my dad half welsh, my grandad was a cool dude, he would never eat a vegatable, and lived to 85.

So there you go, oh yaa, and I use the word T...........R lots cause my voucabuary is poor.

 

[Bill]

So there you go, oh yaa, and I use the word T...........R lots cause my voucabuary is

And I thought masturbating made you go blind, not daft!
I've still got a lot to learn!!

 

[woodsie]

How about this...

...the plate on my bike is under size and so are the letters and numbers.

It is a dealer supplied plate with a nice boarder and the dealers name (a place with a good reputation - as read on this site) in Hertfordshire.

If I am stopped and the plate and type are measured and found to be undersized - who gets the rap? Me or the dealer??



With a large plate and the Touratech mud guard surely maximum protection is given to the back of the bike?

And a hugger to stop some of the cr*p being splattered up the legs of the passenger and coating the rear shock.

 

[judge]

Double Bubble - two for the price of one

BOTH

Your number plate supplier for making a plate not fit for road use and presumably not informing you.

And,

You for riding a motorycle on the road without a number plate fitted which is how it is deemed to be if you number plate doesn't conform to the required standards.

 

[judge]

But don't take my word ferrit

DVLA Requirements for Motorcycle Registration Mark

Accompanying FAQ

Helpfully you'll see that some of this is open to interpretation and it will be for "the courts to decide", to coin a well-used expression on this board - T0SSERS!!!

Technically you have paid your dealer to carry out all the necessary requirements to make your bike road legal, if they have supplied a plate deemed by the Law to be illegal you would have right of redress for breach of contract. D'ya want a lawyer???

I wish the weather would improve otherwise I'm going to plague this board with inane ramblings like this!

 

[Ian]

Yes, lets all ride identical bikes, NEVER exceed the speed limit, never overtake on the inside (especially on motorways), never cross/straddle a solid white line etc, etc, etc. I'm sure everyone out there has infringed on some law at some time or other.

But hang on, half that stuff you posted is *NOT* illegal.

You can straddle a white line, as long as you don't cross it.
Filtering, yes even on the motorway is legal.
Riding different bikes is also ok.
So you're left with speeding.

 

[MikeO]

You can straddle a white line, as long as you don't cross it.

Ian,

no you can't. Rule 108....

MikeO

 

[Ian]

Ian,

no you can't. Rule 108....

MikeO

Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10mph or less.

Well actually, that says you can cross or straddle white line, in the right circumstances, proving my earlier point, that not all of what was listed was illegal, either at all, or all the time.

Also lets face it double white lines are there for the lowest common denominator, "do not overtake the tractor with your milkfloat here"

 

[Squidbrain]

Crodding Double White Lines

"or if ordered to do so by a police officer"

Ian's right about the lowest common denominator. The only person qualified to judge any manouvre's safety is the guy or girl on the spot at the time, not some dweeb in the Town Hall or wherever who's probably a Sunday Fiesta driver anyway.

The roads around here are being gradually emasculated, forests of 50mph signs on fast roads out in the sticks, high grip surface on your favourite slippery corners, big shiny white 25mph signs on the road surface before tight bends. Has it stopped the mums impatiently overtaking you in their bull barred 4x4s when you're doing 20 past the primary school or the "manouvre, signal, mirror" brigade nearly taking you out on a daily basis? Has it hell.

Think this last bit belongs in another thread.

Rant over.

Squidbrain - shortly off to the Three Counties Showground (in the pouring rain of course) for Classic Bike Show, or shall I go to the beach races at Weston Super Mare?

 

[MikeO]

Ooh Ooh, let's have a pedants argument .

So it's OK to Cross and Straddle then. So your original statement was wrong.

Tell you what, letr's give up on this & let everyone read the Highway Code for themselves so they don't misunderstand & get nicked for overtakiing on white lines

MikeO