so if bm quality is carp ( which it is)

Eel not be wanting a Multistroodle if he does any sort of serious mileage. Mine was falling apart at 25k :rob

Oh my cod it was good when it worked though :thumb
 
Kawasaki Versys 1000? Often overlooked adventure 'style' bike.

I'm seriously considering buying one, ticks a lot of boxes in the one bike does all department.
 
The Nutty GSER said:
but there's something about the KTM that I can't quite put my finger on. I want to like it more than I do, but it's just not doing it for me (yet).
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that was exactly my feeling after running the 990 for 18 months and its why I bought a second gs. But next time round it would be boring to have a third gs, so it will have to be one of the others. The ct doesnt seem to have ''caught on'' so I thing it will be the triumph
 
birdseye said:
that was exactly my feeling after running the 990 for 18 months and its why I bought a second gs. But next time round it would be boring to have a third gs, so it will have to be one of the others. The ct doesnt seem to have ''caught on'' so I thing it will be the triumph
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the wild card might be the KTM SMT, seems to tick a lot of boxes and having had 2 x GS and a 950 Adv I may be tempted next time round
 
I would steer clear of the Stelvio though. Great looking bike, but even the relatively new demonstrator I tried when shopping around was pissing clutch fluid everywhere and several other issues of a similar ilk...why the dealer thought he could pursuade me to buy one by sitting me on that thing is beyond the wit of man!
 
trainman said:
the wild card might be the KTM SMT, seems to tick a lot of boxes and having had 2 x GS and a 950 Adv I may be tempted next time round
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Yup, I'd agree with that, especially as I've just bought one. S far, fecking brilliant!:rob
 
The OP's question is a definite Red Herring, and he's obviously Angling to Plaice the GS in a bad light.

Nothing wrong with BMW build quality, and if you want more power, a visit to a good engine Tuna will soon Reef rewards.

:blast
:D
 
When BRP get KTM to put the Rotax 800cc/160bhp DI 2 stroke into one of their bikes I'll be interested, but even then I'd miss the BMW front suspension. Normal forks don't do it for me any more.
 
I've ridden a KTM for a couple of hundred miles. I thought the old 996 was the most uncomfortable bike ever made, but the Adventure soundly trumps it. No wonder those poor bastards on the Dakar stand up so much.

I got chatting to a MultiStrada owner whilst we were in France. It's a nice looking bike, but he despaired at the build quality - 2000 miles and had already needed lots of electrical work and a new rear suspension unit. The ESA shock is three and a half grand out of warranty which I thought was reassuringly expensive. Mind you, I have no idea what a GS ESA unit costs in comparison.

:ChrisKelly
 
ianran said:
So, you've come on the 1200 section, told us all our bikes are fish and now you want us to tell you what to ride? I think you should get the Honda, you deserve each other:barf
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Made me laugh!!

I am really pleased with the quality of my GSA and have a '13 KTM 450 EXC for enduros too as I'm a lucky cod (had to get a fish joke in!) The KTM is also a wonderfully made and detailed bike that some folk moan about despite the staggeringly high percentage of riders on the start line sitting on an orange bike. Goes like stink too..

Adventure wise for me the GSA is the one - everything else whilst it may be a good compromise in any direction doesn't quite keep up.

As for the Honda CT - no thanks!
 
Yonkyo said:
Just a paltry £1400 for the rear shocker...:thumby:

:Motomartin
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Revs Racing will fit a pair of WIlbers for less than that and theirs is a much better quality suspension.

People (some anyway) bemoan there are too many GSs about, but the bikes support a huge range of aftermarket stuff.
 
Bendy toy said:
Revs Racing will fit a pair of WIlbers for less than that and theirs is a much better quality suspension.
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Exactly right. That's what I did when my shocks began to feel tired.
The Wilbers WESA is a revelation.

:thumby:
 
Yonkyo said:
The OP's question is a definite Red Herring, and he's obviously Angling to Plaice the GS in a bad light.

Nothing wrong with BMW build quality, and if you want more power, a visit to a good engine Tuna will soon Reef rewards.

:blast
:D
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Iwas hoping for a rational and sensible discussion with the forum members intelligent enough to be able to see both the pro and con of an individual bike. doesnt look like that includes you!
 
the new bmw switch gear is very bad , ive been having mine replaced for the past 3 years on my S1000 and its identical to the new GS switch gear , the old switch gear is great IMHO
HAving owned an LC8 before for a few years I would definately buy another KTM , even with its foibles
 
birdseye said:
Iwas hoping for a rational and sensible discussion with the forum members intelligent enough to be able to see both the pro and con of an individual bike. doesnt look like that includes you!
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I think you've piked out on that idea and you need to cast your net out a little wider to net a sensible discussion.
 
This thread is full of polloks.

Whilst BMW's quality of finish seems to be on a downward spiral the competition is racing them towards the bottom of the barrel.

All you need is a dab of TLC and a current warranty and BMWs are great bikes.

You shouldn't drift, just trawl around the shops, make your choice, don't perch on the fence, angle after a good deal and enjoy your new bike.

My tuppence is that proper adventure bikes should be relatively light and that puts BMW and KTM in the frame with all the others as "also rans".
 
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