Spare bearing purchase ( spares travel kit)

[Captain Black]

I think on the 1150 there is three sets of rear end bearings ?
The pivot bearings ( fairly easy to swop out)
The final drive bearing and seal ( not so easy as the pivot)
The bevel bearing ( pain in the arse)
Having just done my pivot up to remove the play, and seeing that poor guy left stranded in Switzerland by that shit dealership, Im going to carry some spares when I go to Europe in future. Paranoid ? Maybe but I don't want to be stuck at the mercy of a shit dealership, not to mention the cost.
Question is do folk carry these bearings as spares or just maybe one or two of them ? And do the bearings cover all the 1150 from 02 through to the end or were some bearings different in later models ?
I'm seriously thinking of putting a spares kit together for traveling but where do I stop ?
So what's in your spares for repairs travel kit.
The bikes are getting older now so a wise precaution ? Or just go forth and hope for the best ?
Feel for that guy in Switzerland stuck for days on end because of a poxy Bearing or two.

 

[Kawanor]

Spare bering

The pivot bearings dont die suddenly,if you adjust them,,but the final drive bearing and seal,can do..I have the FD-bearing with me for many years now,,but,I`m a little paranoid..

 

[motobiker]

I'm not.

my spares kit s very simple: a headlamp bulb. an indicator bulb and if I still had the oe. a brake/tail light bulb.

anything that looks suspect is changed BEFORE I go.

Much of the paranoia is fed directly by reading this section of the forum and assuming that if it happened to you - its almost certain to happen to me. I don't think like that.

Staying local this year.. in 10 days Im away taking 9 others for a week in Der Eifel.

re. spares. i would think very differently if I was heading outside the EU. (or north into Scandinavia)

 

[Captain Black]

I'm not.

my spares kit s very simple: a headlamp bulb. an indicator bulb and if I still had the oe. a brake/tail light bulb.

anything that looks suspect is changed BEFORE I go.

Much of the paranoia is fed directly by reading this section of the forum and assuming that if it happened to you - its almost certain to happen to me. I don't think like that.

Staying local this year.. in 10 days Im away taking 9 others for a week in Der Eifel.

re. spares. i would think very differently if I was heading outside the EU. (or north into Scandinavia)

It's not all paranoia but I know what you mean. Fact is these bikes are getting older with bigger miles so failures will increase as the norm. I'm just thinking oily hands for a few hours rather than being stranded for days on end ( see our Swiss traveller) is a far better option. Plus the parts will no doubt get yes dat some point it time.

 

[Aidan1150]

I may well be paraphrasing here but Steptoe says that if you are going far afield you should just carry a FD bearing and seal and an alternator belt as those are most likely to be a show stopper.

 

[Steptoe]

I may well be paraphrasing here but Steptoe says that if you are going far afield you should just carry a FD bearing and seal and an alternator belt as those are most likely to be a show stopper.

Yep, and posted on the forum many times.

I only carry what i can replace at the side of the road (or if you can't do it any other garage, be it car or bike can replace for you), and what would leave the bike without forward motion.

Pivot bearings aren't a show stopper, neither is a clutch slave cylinder.
Although i did once take a slave cylinder in morroco when i knew i was coming back alone after leaving the C90 on their wat to gambia, and knew i'd be going a long way off road.
I can ride on the road with no clutch through cities and countries without any difficulty, but it's a bit difficult riding off road with no clutch.

Crown wheel bearing and seal takes up no room and costs bugger all compared to stopping your trip/holiday.
And i've a box full of old but usable alternator belts, stick a couple under the tank and away you go.

 

[Kawanor]

clutch slave cylinder

I drove from Slovenia,home to Norway with a leak in the clutch slave cylinder on my 1150rt.

 

[Flipfly]

I had an alternator belt go roadside when on my way to Southern Spain a couple of weeks ago, thankfully I had a spare
O ring on the fuel line went too, very quick and easy repair, but have a spare solid line just in case.
Spares are a tough one. I checked the belt before leaving and it looked in tip top condition. The only way of being 100% is to have a support truck. Personally I'm with Steptoe, carry the easy stuff as a precaution, but you will never cover a major failure. If you carry a coil, the alternator could pack up, carry an alternator and the coil packs up.
If the bike is running fine the best advise is to take your time and don't thrash it whilst you are in the middle of nowhere

 

[monkeyboy]

don't thrash it whilst you are in the middle of nowhere

That is the absolute best advice anyone can give IMO. Ride with as much mechanical sympathy as you can when you're on a really long trip.

 

[kennyc]

Well as the poor sod stuck in Switzerland I will not be going anywhere without the bevel bearing and seal again,it went from sweet to omfg!!! In less than 30miles,I already carry the alternator belt and a couple of other bits but this one caught me out bigtime.

 

[ChrisH Kerry]

I took FD bearing and seal, alternator belt and Hall sensor plate with me on my trip round Alps last year plus bulbs. Didn't need any of them but didn't cost that much. German guy on 1100GS got stranded here in Kerry this summer when Hall sensors went (local car mechanic who did the recovery phoned me to ask what it was likely to be - bike ended up at some dealer in Cork and holiday ruined ) Might as well take them things anyway, they seem to be most likely show stoppers

 

[Captain Black]

I took FD bearing and seal, alternator belt and Hall sensor plate with me on my trip round Alps last year plus bulbs. Didn't need any of them but didn't cost that much. German guy on 1100GS got stranded here in Kerry this summer when Hall sensors went (local car mechanic who did the recovery phoned me to ask what it was likely to be - bike ended up at some dealer in Cork and holiday ruined ) Might as well take them things anyway, they seem to be most likely show stoppers

It's not the breaking down in Western Europe its the time it takes and the cost to get sorted. If you've gone for a month or six weeks or longer no real pain. But if your on a two weeker or a week and your parked up for our days sucking lemons that's crap.
I'm sure anyone would mutter they wished they'd taken a I know you can't cover all eventualities but feck me the size of those tin panniers were all lugging about, may as well put something useful in them !

 

[Micky]

There's nothing that can't be fixed ... nuthin!

Whatever you carry you will not need ... Sod's law prevails, what you will want will be the one thing you left behind

Clock .... wind back .... A six month overland trip to Mongolia, we couldn't carry all the spares we wanted to, left wheel bearings behind, working on the assumption that they were fairy common, fairly a available

Mongolia and Sue's bike wanted wheel bearings

Obtained in a shanty town in the middle of nowhere ... sorted

So for a European trip

Just feck off CB and enjoy

Please

 

[Kawanor]

Spare parts

I had my fuelpump with me for three years,,,,

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[Captain Black]

There's nothing that can't be fixed ... nuthin!

Whatever you carry you will not need ... Sod's law prevails, what you will want will be the one thing you left behind

Clock .... wind back .... A six month overland trip to Mongolia, we couldn't carry all the spares we wanted to, left wheel bearings behind, working on the assumption that they were fairy common, fairly a available

Mongolia and Sue's bike wanted wheel bearings

Obtained in a shanty town in the middle of nowhere ... sorted

So for a European trip


Just feck off CB and enjoy

Please

I agree with most of what you say

But as our Swiss traveller found out it delayed him enough to take the edge of what was a short break. He was close to no hotel room, no parts from uk, and a shit dealership who wouldn't help him out be because they were " booked up all week"
As for your wheel bearing issue, I'd wager you'll be sticking a couple in your pocket next time you head out to Mongolia

 

[Stewart H]

As a lucky charm on longish trips I have a spare alternator belt, a big bearing and QD O rings, as well as assorted bits, on the bike theres a spare clutch cable routed alongside the original, easy.

 

[kennyc]

There's nothing that can't be fixed ... nuthin!

Whatever you carry you will not need ... Sod's law prevails, what you will want will be the one thing you left behind

Clock .... wind back .... A six month overland trip to Mongolia, we couldn't carry all the spares we wanted to, left wheel bearings behind, working on the assumption that they were fairy common, fairly a available

Mongolia and Sue's bike wanted wheel bearings

Obtained in a shanty town in the middle of nowhere ... sorted

So for a European trip

Just feck off CB and enjoy

Please

well my trip was a 5 day European one, and here I am on the 4th day without a bike, waiting until tomorrow when hopefully the parts turn up so I can bugger off home,I haven't done the passes I had hoped to and will be riding home alone as did my buddy who had to leave as arranged. So I would say the parts are very worth while carrying, on short trips you can't afford to be at the mercy of people who don't give a toss! I had no guarantee that the dealer who wouldn't make time this week would actually make time next week,they also admitted they don't carry the spares and that it could take several day to get them,again with no guarantee that they would have the time to figure them when they arrived! £60 worth of bits would have seen me back on the road the same day the failure happened!

 

[Flipfly]

well my trip was a 5 day European one, and here I am on the 4th day without a bike, waiting until tomorrow when hopefully the parts turn up so I can bugger off home,I haven't done the passes I had hoped to and will be riding home alone as did my buddy who had to leave as arranged. So I would say the parts are very worth while carrying, on short trips you can't afford to be at the mercy of people who don't give a toss! I had no guarantee that the dealer who wouldn't make time this week would actually make time next week,they also admitted they don't carry the spares and that it could take several day to get them,again with no guarantee that they would have the time to figure them when they arrived! £60 worth of bits would have seen me back on the road the same day the failure happened!

True, but it could have just have easily been a driveshaft fail or a 5 pound gearbox bearing. In this case you have been unlucky not to have the bits needed, and you could have carried them, but sods law is you have all the bits bar the one you need.
All travel is a lottery, and luck plays a big part in getting around without issue.

 

[Captain Black]

True, but it could have just have easily been a driveshaft fail or a 5 pound gearbox bearing. In this case you have been unlucky not to have the bits needed, and you could have carried them, but sods law is you have all the bits bar the one you need.
All travel is a lottery, and luck plays a big part in getting around without issue.

It all starts with carrying a puncture repair kit ( or not) and from then its just some smart basics I guess. The question is not where you start ( assuming everyone has a tyre repair kit) but where it stops.
Having thought about it I'm going for,
Puncture repair kit.
Bulbs
Alternator belt
FD bearing and seal
Spark plugs
Tools
Tape/zip ties/wire/fuses.
Polythene fuel bag.
Litre of oil.

Not that bad....

 

[MattW]

It all starts with carrying a puncture repair kit ( or not) and from then its just some smart basics I guess. The question is not where you start ( assuming everyone has a tyre repair kit) but where it stops.
Having thought about it I'm going for,
Puncture repair kit.
Bulbs
Alternator belt
FD bearing and seal
Spark plugs
Tools
Tape/zip ties/wire/fuses.
Polythene fuel bag.
Litre of oil.

Not that bad....

That's exactly what I carry but as I ride an 1100, in also carry a clutch cable and second hand clutch release arm. Oh and I also carry my old 'known good' hall sensor which I changed as a precaution at 16 years old.

In addition to the usuals, my tools include araldite, cotton wool balls (together can be used to make a composite for structural repairs) and a 16mm socket - an oddball size not included in many socket sets but used in a few key places on the bike (crankshaft pulley bolt, shock mounts etc).

I don't know whether I'd ever attempt a roadside FD bearing change (I'd need to locally source a hammer / chisels etc), but at least if I had the parts, a workshop could do it for me.