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To The All Knowing,

Planning a trip across France,at the end of next month,how do I switch off the speed camera warnings, as I understand they are now illegal in France.


Many thanks

Moses
 
Do you have Garmin speed camera data or Pocket GPS World?

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I am genuinely at a loss as to how someone riding within the bounds of reason could find themselves in a situation where a french policeman would scroll through their GPS to see if it warned of speed traps.

It just does not happen!! - or if it has to a member of this site please give details!

I've ridden up and down and side to side of France scores of times over the past 13 years. I have never been close to being stopped by les flics.

Don't go mad, plenty of forward observation skills and give the police a cheery wave!

It is not a banana republic, it's EU and perfectly "normal". Relax and enjoy!
 
I am genuinely at a loss as to how someone riding within the bounds of reason could find themselves in a situation where a french policeman would scroll through their GPS to see if it warned of speed traps.

It just does not happen!! - or if it has to a member of this site please give details!

I've ridden up and down and side to side of France scores of times over the past 13 years. I have never been close to being stopped by les flics.

Don't go mad, plenty of forward observation skills and give the police a cheery wave!

It is not a banana republic, it's EU and perfectly "normal". Relax and enjoy!

+1 :thumb

Personally I love riding through France (although the first hour or so is a bit tedious). Never had any problems with the Police, always found people warm and friendly, far more so than over here.

I think Fast Bikes et al have encouraged the sportbike guys to hit northern France hard with sportbikes going like loonies. They get what they deserve. Just because you are in a foreign country, why should you be able to ride like a tw*t and expect to get away with it.
 
Speed cameras

Just watch out for unmarked cars parked on the roadside with cameras in the back shelf. I live here in France and see a LOT more of this type being used. Most of the time it's no problem for bikes as they are front facing BUT if they keep recording bikes blasting past them sooner or later they are going to say F*@^K this and make them rear facing.

Another one to watch now is the exit of tunnels. Last week I came across 2 cameras mounted on tripods right at the exit of tunnels on the A20 Autoroute south of Brive.

As for the Garmin, don't rely on the speed limit shown on the screen, its SO out of date. Many times its shows the limit as 110kmh when it's a 90 or 70kph when its a 50.
 
I am genuinely at a loss as to how someone riding within the bounds of reason could find themselves in a situation where a french policeman would scroll through their GPS to see if it warned of speed traps.

I don't think the regular police are trained, or for that allowed by law, to 'interrogate' your GPS. There are apparently bods for their equivalent of the DOT who are trained and empowered to check them though. Reputed to hang out at ports and pull over the unwary for inspection, though this is just hearsay. The proposed €1500 fine is steep so I wouldn't bother risking having relevant data on your Garmin. Not sure if they would levy that the first time around but wouldn't want to test the theory.

I got stopped once in 2010 in the Alps, the bike cops that pulled us over were polite but linguistically challenged when it can to dealing with two Brits who pretended to not understand them particularly well ;) In the end they gave us a breathalyser test each. And I mean that they gave us a kit to use ourselves at a later juncture... We tested them at the campsite that evening after a few beers :D

Flipfly said:
Personally I love riding through France (although the first hour or so is a bit tedious). Never had any problems with the Police, always found people warm and friendly, far more so than over here.

The attitude to bikes, let alone their fabulous and relatively empty roads, food etc. are what keep me going back year after year. Keeping it sensible on the Autoroute but across the boring bit of Northern France is a wise idea. Frequently have seen police cars hidden from long distance view with a Gendarme armed with a speed camera. Having said that the traffic on the opposing carriageway usually gives you ample warning.

Once you're off the Autoroute, which we tend to do in the Champagne region, the regular N and D roads can generally be ridden in an entertaining manner without bursting the speed limit by any significant margin anyway.

Was 'zapped' by a speed camera armed Gendarme in the Vosges in later June this year, he was hiding in the shadows of a wooden bus shelter on a long straight bit of road. I doubt if I was, of the other other 4 bikes in our group following me were, over 90kph by very much. He didn't bother giving chase so he was probably after a more significant catch. None of the others in the group registered his presence.

I removed all the Garmin alerts, as I had disabled them anyway. They're files in /Garmin/POI/ with the word Cyclops in the name. i.e. FranceCyclopsSample.gpi just copy these to you PC and delete from the GPS.

Pocket GPS World data just requires you to opt out of French data when you download an update. Purge all existing PGPSW data before updating to ensure that it's clean.

I prefer to go with any warnings when abroad and just use the Mk1 eyeball and a dose of common sense.
 
You don't need to switch them off. Update the Zumo to the latest firmware. They are then renamed to "accident hotspot areas" and are completely legal in France.

See Garmin's update at http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4469.

Thanks for that, just done the upgrade to mine as you suggested and I notice its not called cyclops for France as you say. At least this way I can leave my sat nav as it is when going to France, thanks for the tip.

Ian

:beerjug:
 
No problem. It seems to be a common question on all the forums at the moment.

Glad to be of help.
 
Does anybody know what actually happens when you get to a speed camera with the new update ? Does it just use a different wording ? Do the speed cameras in England still show as speed cameras ??
 
I don't think it is actually as easy as this. I just contacted Garmin, bascially the firmware update allows the device to deal with the "hazard zones" or whatever they are called. In order to get these you need to load a free trial or a subscription to the Cyclops Speed Camera/Zone database which I think then removes the speed camera data for France and replaces with the hazard zones. If you don't load this you will still have speed cameras on the device, so you will need to turn them off (from the Proximity Points item) when in France.
 
I just looked into this and is £19.99 for annual subscription for UK and Ireland and £29.99 for Europe. I won't be bothering with this then, I will just turn them off :)
 
Just did the suggested update to software version 4.7 and I see that it's still called Cyclops for France so I'll be turning mine off on trips, just incase.
 
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Just don't speed, chill out, relax and enjoy the experience of riding through this lovely country :D
Most of the GPS/warning devices now beep alerts at the same locations they always did, but now, they call them 'danger zones' or 'warning zones' rather than fixed cameras.
Other apps like wikango is a collective app where people with smartphones can alert the community to traffic jams, traffic police etc too, and these also refer to 'warning zones' which is perfectly legal.

Rob
 
Plain clothes officer?

I am genuinely at a loss as to how someone riding within the bounds of reason could find themselves in a situation where a french policeman would scroll through their GPS to see if it warned of speed traps.

It just does not happen!! - or if it has to a member of this site please give details!

Last year I pulled into a French motorway service station on my GS, filled up with fuel and then parked the bike up to go for a pee. I didn't bother disconnecting my GPS from its mount, but upon my return there was a smartly dressed Frenchman in a black leather jacket, early 40's, hanging around my bike taking a good look at all the extras.

He took a long look at the GPS and asked me where I was going, could he look at the route etc all very polite and professional - then in quite a nonchalant way asked if I had speed camera alerts on it.

The alarm bells immediately starting ringing so I said my particular make & model didn't support them which he seemed to accept and after another minute or so, he moved off.

Not quite sure what may have happened if I said it did, but a point well worth remembering ....
 
From what I've read on the net, so not a particularly reliable source, the French police are not authorised, or trained, to inspect your GPS. However, there are equivalent to DoT bods who are and are tasked with catching and prosecuting offenders. Rumoured to be found at ports and occasionally at the side of the road. Possibly what Peter Pan came up against.
 
So might be time to get a stupidly small number plate which you attach when on the ferry, and remember to refit the "proper" one on the way back.
 
To The All Knowing,

Planning a trip across France,at the end of next month,how do I switch off the speed camera warnings, as I understand they are now illegal in France.


Many thanks

Moses

Travelled in france many time and never had a problem with them, never even been pulled over or stopped in the car or on the bike. Ireally wouldn't worry about it
 


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