Stolen bike...how can I stop this??

[MILLE_RIDER]

Love the idea of that... but I fear a prosecution for assault/ABH/GBH is likely... Don't forget that in our modern world, they have more rights than you do !

Worth it though, better than the spending the rest of your life wishing that you had.

I remember a mate (who happened to be a Hell's Angel, which obviously helped) retrieving his Mitsubishi Shogun from the local pikies with the help of some of his 'brothers' they wanted to return it without any trouble but he had to give them a bit of a slap. Their rights weren't discussed

 

[g00ner]

They cut through the front and rear discs on my 901 too whilst nicking it. I’ve got litelok in use now, plus disc and Abus chain locks.
And a camera, and alarm and a barky mutt

If the fuckers want it they can at least work hard for it

 

[Barnoe]

and a barky mutt

I used to have a Staffy called Rocky and i noticed he growled at anyone who went near the 2012 CBR i had at the time.
I was so proud of him and my mates was impressed.

Until one of them went to the bike and offered a dog biscuit, Rocky stopped growling wagged his tail and was the potential thieves best mate!

Rocky went from hero to zero in a single biscuit.... tosser

My current Staffy doesn't give a shit either way..... but also likes biscuits!

 

[EVskiy]

Sorry to read this and for the loss of your beloved bike.

I have come to conclusion, that due to BMW having a huge success with their GS/A range of bikes, these have over the years become a number one bike to steal.
I honestly believe that due to sheer volume of influencers showing off their bikes, how cool they are, accessories manufacturers making them 5x black etc. So there is a desire from lesser wealthy parts that f this world to have them. Now “where do these bike go then?” you might ask.

I would be inclined to say anywhere in the world really, one of those places more than likely is Russia, bod over there placing an order… then there are places like South America, Africa, Thailand etc. The thieves no doubt work for a middle man (the one who keeping his finger nails clean and making a big profit), who does pay them (let’s say £200) per stolen bike. This means that a Gand of 3-4 toe rags can earn in excess of £300-£500+ per day, joyriding, knowing that they are at that very moment in time are untouchable, due to lack of police resources, the paperwork trail it would leave coppers dealing with and that you will simply end up getting a crime reference number. Your bike does get put into shipping container and before you know it, the thing is at sea mere day or two later.
Nobody will be going to look for your bike in a hurry. The toe rags are totally aware of this. So it makes for very easy pickings. The scum are also aware that no member of the public will put them self in the path of danger when scum welding hammers, angle grinders and crow bars.

You tell me if some young lads from Brazil, in this (and many other) video can afford to buy GS/A just so that he/they could abused like this. I doubt it very much, chances are these very bikes have been taken from the street of European cities.

To sum up, my point is, don’t buy a flashy bike for everyday rides to the shops or Starbucks. Buy a nice but hardly desirable machine for this very purpose. And have your nicer bike for those times when you are going away to Euroland for couple of weeks.

 

[jetjock]

Buy a 1300GS ASA with the insurance money . They’ll need a van to move it as the transmission is locked

Oh and like steppers says , let the tyres down

 

[siddo]

Sorry to read this and for the loss of your beloved bike.

I have come to conclusion, that due to BMW having a huge success with their GS/A range of bikes, these have over the years become a number one bike to steal.
I honestly believe that due to sheer volume of influencers showing off their bikes, how cool they are, accessories manufacturers making them 5x black etc. So there is a desire from lesser wealthy parts that f this world to have them. Now “where do these bike go then?” you might ask.

I would be inclined to say anywhere in the world really, one of those places more than likely is Russia, bod over there placing an order… then there are places like South America, Africa, Thailand etc. The thieves no doubt work for a middle man (the one who keeping his finger nails clean and making a big profit), who does pay them (let’s say £200) per stolen bike. This means that a Gand of 3-4 toe rags can earn in excess of £300-£500+ per day, joyriding, knowing that they are at that very moment in time are untouchable, due to lack of police resources, the paperwork trail it would leave coppers dealing with and that you will simply end up getting a crime reference number. Your bike does get put into shipping container and before you know it, the thing is at sea mere day or two later.
Nobody will be going to look for your bike in a hurry. The toe rags are totally aware of this. So it makes for very easy pickings. The scum are also aware that no member of the public will put them self in the path of danger when scum welding hammers, angle grinders and crow bars.

You tell me if some young lads from Brazil, in this (and many other) video can afford to buy GS/A just so that he/they could abused like this. I doubt it very much, chances are these very bikes have been taken from the street of European cities.

To sum up, my point is, don’t buy a flashy bike for everyday rides to the shops or Starbucks. Buy a nice but hardly desirable machine for this very purpose. And have your nicer bike for those times when you are going away to Euroland for couple of weeks.

I like they way you blamed Russia.
Most are going to the baltics and stripped there for parts.

 

[EVskiy]

I like they way you blamed Russia.
Most are going to the baltics and stripped there for parts.

No doubt they are, but I suspect it is harder than ever now, with limited border crossings into Russia. But being from Baltics myself, and having spent a year in Russia during late 90’s, I can assure you that it is more than likely to be the case. Even under current sanctions, Russian clientele can still get their hands on western luxury goods through back door. Remember Russia is a very big country by comparison to entire European Union.

Lithuania as is Latvia and Estonia has produced a fair share of scum operatin in this very country, thieving to order. Here is one such pair, although surname Kisskiss (likely in the country on fake documents to hide real identity) is very suspect. I certainly never seen it come.

I hazard to say that Kisskiss is actually Kiškis, pronounced as Kishkis.

 

[zerax9]

Sorry to hear about your loss... and to try to answer your original question and to re-iterate some of what has already been said...

In this country, I never leave my bike unattended in a public place, regardless of how many locks/chains/alarms/trackers/CCTV cameras that it has on it. If I did, I wouldn't expect it to still be there 10 mins later. I do sometimes leave it outside and even overnight, but that's only on private property, hidden away, out of sight of the 'scouts' that report locations and call in the 'removal team'. I cover it over, with multiple locks and chains... and even then, I worry.

Sadly, as others have said, in the UK, theft has largely been (unofficially) de-criminalised. There's maybe (say) a 5% chance of catching the thieving scum, then maybe (say) a 10% chance of being 'charged up', then maybe (say) a 5% chance of being properly punished (imprisonment, deportation etc.)... 5% x 10% x 5% = 0.025%... What sort of disincentive is that ??

 

[Wapping]

Does it really make any difference if a stolen motorcycle goes to Aberdeen, Azov, Manchester or Mažeikiai?

Bikes get stolen, everyone knows that. Shops get turned over by brazen shoplifters, everyone knows that, too.

What is possibly interesting to know is the name / model of the tracker, the subscription bought and the tracker’s service provider. Also of possible interest is news vis-a-vis the release (or not) of any video and / or what it might show.

As to the rest? A rip-off insurer will, in all probability, not be judgemental and will offer a fair (or even very fair) settlement for the bike’s (very probable) total loss, reasonably quickly…. Subject otherwise to the terms and conditions of the policy bought.

 

[Zac]

Sorry about what happened Zac.

I use that parking every once in a while both by car and motorbike. Even though my GS is a shitty old GSA that could be stolen just for joyriding. Hopefully not.

Same question as someone above: did you use it regularly?
They went across a fair amount of shit to cut (and there is generally a lot of bikes parked there) so it seems like they were targeting yours.

I suspect having disc locks on both discs helps... as if they cut one disc they will have to remove the caliper... good luck pushing a GS without both front calipers
But, I admit, after many years using Abus disc locks (that I still use as secondary protection) I started doing like Paul S above.

Good luck.

I did park there quite regularly so guess they could have targeted, but there is often a quite a lot of nice bikes there and also a busy parking area so it's brazen of them to do it in the middle of the afternoon. I'm most pissed off with Datatool/Scorpion for not bothering to contact me after the initial (one)call that I missed - they must have been able to see that the bike was being moved without the key/engine on etc. The scum did't remove the tracker for at least 20 minutes after they'd stolen. They literally must have gone straight by the office that I was in. If only they'd called I could have got out there and stopped them like the previous attempted theft a few years back, but they didn't contact me.

 

[Wapping]

I'm most pissed off with Datatool/Scorpion….

Have you contacted Datatool / Scorpion to ask them why?

The device / management company is amongst the best around. Hearing their explanation might well be interesting.

 

[Wapping]

What news on the possible release of any CCTV and what it might show?

 

[Traffic893]

What news on the possible release of any CCTV and what it might show?

Shitbags in hoodies and masks all in black, and that’s when the police lose interest.

 

[Thejoybringer]

So I had my 1250GSA 40th Anniversary nicked on Tuesday. About 3:30pm from the John Lewis underground car park at White City West London - generally a busy place at that time of the day.

I've always thought the parking there was super safe. The bike was chained to an anchor point in the car park via the rear wheel. I also had anAbus Granit disc lock on one of the front discs and Oxford Ulock on the other front disc. Both of these were alarmed. I also had the factory fit tracker installed and armed. There is CCTV there too, although they will only relaase this to plod. When the bike was stolen I only received one text message notification and one call which I missed. I discovered the bike was gone two hours later when I returned. They had cut through both front discs (not the locks) and cut through the rear chain before pushing away with another couple of Maxi scooters. They then rode like that for another mile through West London, before disabling the tracker completely. The whole thing seems to have taken about 20 minutes.

I am just writing this out of despair really. My questions are:
What is the point of putting a load of disc locks on if they just cut through the disc itself?
What is the point of having the tracker on if the tracking company only call you once and the thieves can immediately disable it without too many problems.

Money no object what else can I do to secure the bike? Is there a Rolls Royce combination of locks or trackers that will stop them? Is there some sort of guard to stop them cutting through the discs?

Any help much appreciated although in all honestly I doubt I'll be able to carry on biking now as I expect my insurance will go through the roof.

Thanks all - I bloody loved that bike.

I feel your pain…I also had my XR nicked last August, even thought the Old Bill located my bike they wouldn’t go after the scum bags in case they crashed the bike and hurt themselves!! Only last Sunday evening the thieves were out and about and nicked x2 Landrovers from only 5 doors down from where i live. Needless to say I am prepared and ready if they revisit me, I will go down for my actions but hey oh shit happens and I am sick and tired of being done over.

 

[Wapping]

Have you contacted Datatool / Scorpion to ask them why?

The device / management company is amongst the best around. Hearing their explanation might well be interesting.

I am guessing but, I assume that Datatool do not contact the police until after they have spoken with the registered owner.

Why?

I can only assume that it avoids Datatool / police chasing around after a vehicle, only to then learn that the owner had put their bike into a van or onto a trailer, because he was moving it somewhere.

 

[Udders]

Take the car.

 

[Wapping]

Needless to say I am prepared and ready….

Curtain pole?

Dog pee gun?

 

[Traffic893]

Even gold/diamond standard disc locks are useless in they only need to cut the disc. Hopefully the manufacturers are working on this and trying to overcome that issue.
LITELOK seems the way forward plus disc locks for a bit of added deterrent.
Shit bags know they will struggle with a LITELOK.
However, at the end of the day if they desperately want your bike they will turn up equipped to take it.
You can buy portable oxyacetylene kits on Amazon for £100
We can only try and make someone else’s bike a better target.

 

[Wapping]

Take the car.

Open the box!

 

[Traffic893]

Which company supplied and monitored the tracker, please?

Have you requested John Lewis / whoever runs / manages the car park to release any video to the police?

Who at John Lewis / at the car park, told you that they’d only release video to the police?

Video is protected under the GDPR rule. They will release it to the authorities but not the victim.