Struggling with recent notchy gear changes when using clutch 2022 r1250gs

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Hi all , need some advice for those in the know.

I have a 2022 1250gs with 37,000 miles on the clock . Over the last 3-4 months i have noticed that what was a buttery smooth gears i am now feeling a notch when changing up and down the box. Sometimes i get a nice change but more bad than good these days sometime a mis gear or even a crunch.
So far have checked the gear linkage for stiction and also check for clutch drag and slippage . all are fine from what i can see.
Thought maybe linked to gear assist pro so did transmission and assist relearn . still no change .
Would say bike is slightly better when stone cold.

Not sure where to go next or what to check , and if honest dont want to do the dealer route unless i can help it. Any tip advise would be greatly appreciated .Or worst case anyone know of a good BMW tech in Essex/south of England area could be a last resort.

Thx in advance J,
 
Alternately, try Paul at MotoDP, Rayleigh - BMW approved and has a reputation second to none locally - you can reach Paul on 07738 161707
 
UPDATE !!! Clutch fluid change and bled. Engine oil and filter change. Gear linkage cleaned and lubricated. Transmission adaptations reset and re-learned with Motoscan. No clutch slip, although a small amount of clutch drag when on stand and i hit 1st gear . Can stop wheel from spinning with a little force. I am thinking new clutch next as run out of ideas and cant think of any other routes . Unless anyone out there can offer new information
 
freddy871 said:
UPDATE !!! Clutch fluid change and bled. Engine oil and filter change. Gear linkage cleaned and lubricated. Transmission adaptations reset and re-learned with Motoscan. No clutch slip, although a small amount of clutch drag when on stand and i hit 1st gear . Can stop wheel from spinning with a little force. I am thinking new clutch next as run out of ideas and cant think of any other routes . Unless anyone out there can offer new information
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Have you ridden it? Still poor shifting?
 
GTMorgan said:
Have you ridden it? Still poor shifting?
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Yep ride to work today , I think oil change made a tiny improvement . But still getting poor shifts where it feels like clutch is not engaging correctly , especially going up the box . Down is better ..
 
freddy871 said:
Hi all , need some advice for those in the know.

I have a 2022 1250gs with 37,000 miles on the clock . Over the last 3-4 months i have noticed that what was a buttery smooth gears i am now feeling a notch when changing up and down the box. Sometimes i get a nice change but more bad than good these days sometime a mis gear or even a crunch.
So far have checked the gear linkage for stiction and also check for clutch drag and slippage . all are fine from what i can see.
Thought maybe linked to gear assist pro so did transmission and assist relearn . still no change .
Would say bike is slightly better when stone cold.

Not sure where to go next or what to check , and if honest dont want to do the dealer route unless i can help it. Any tip advise would be greatly appreciated .Or worst case anyone know of a good BMW tech in Essex/south of England area could be a last resort.

Thx in advance J,
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BMW dealers replace the shaft drive unit on 1200 and 1250 water boxers for free every 36,000 miles. Its claimed to be merely a precaution, but it could easily be where the roughness comes from.

NB on the 1300 models this is chargeable to the customer!
 
Hey RS shaft already replaced last December , so happy that's not the issue . 👍
 
freddy871 said:
Hey RS shaft already replaced last December , so happy that's not the issue . 👍
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It does seem to coincide to when the shaft was changed though, 3-4 months ago? I'm clutching at straws really, I can't see how a supposedly new shaft could cause an issue, can't really install one wrong as far as I know but, it does seem a coincidence.
 
GTMorgan said:
It does seem to coincide to when the shaft was changed though, 3-4 months ago? I'm clutching at straws really, I can't see how a supposedly new shaft could cause an issue, can't really install one wrong as far as I know but, it does seem a coincidence.
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Did you get to the bottom of this , had me shaft done few weeks back and finding the gear change very notchy especially beyond second.
 
listermint said:
Did you get to the bottom of this , had me shaft done few weeks back and finding the gear change very notchy especially beyond second.
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Never did NO.. I'm sorting of used to it now, It hasnt got any better or worse , so left it and just ride as normal . Everyone and then I get a really bad change which reminds me . But I just accepted the other notchy/clunky shifts . Now at 47000 miles for ref.
 
freddy871 said:
Never did NO.. I'm sorting of used to it now, It hasnt got any better or worse , so left it and just ride as normal . Everyone and then I get a really bad change which reminds me . But I just accepted the other notchy/clunky shifts . Now at 47000 miles for ref.
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I will endeavor to sort this. It's too fresh for me. Not happy at all. I've found myself travelling at speed away from lights and I should be in 4th but still on second clutch in but rolling and fighting with the gear shift to click upwards where I want it.

Absolutely takes the gloss off how well it worked.

I'm guessing the gear oil was changed with the driveshaft swap so I doubt that's a fix.

Maybe your right the clutch could be not ok anymore with the crisp gears on the shaft 🤷
 
Check for severe clutch drag , ie when you select 1st gear is bike trying to edge forward .. ? If not while on the bike you can try on centre stand briefly . Start bike on centre stand , clutch in select first and gently let clutch out , then clutch in and use sole of boot or heel to press against side wall of rear tire to slow and stop wheel. You will feel if too strong , but you should be able to stop it . If not you may have clutch drag. Also as said earlier get someone with hex or motoscan and reset shift assist and transmission adaptations .
 
listermint said:
Never had nor wanted an 1150 , so unclear why that would be a thing. Does the 1150 not have a clutch on it ? Interesting news. I must look into this infinity motorcycle.. ..
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does your bike have a wet , multi plate clutch ? ( 1150's have a dry diaphragm clutch ) . if your clutch has a basket , that the basket has wear in the fingers , making actuation "notchy " . so you don't get a clean lift , on the flip side , you may not get a clean engagement which you will notice , as a jerky take off from a standstill . it will affect your gearchange.

wear is a slow process. until , all of a sudden it isn't.
 
freddy871 said:
Check for severe clutch drag , ie when you select 1st gear is bike trying to edge forward .. ? If not while on the bike you can try on centre stand briefly . Start bike on centre stand , clutch in select first and gently let clutch out , then clutch in and use sole of boot or heel to press against side wall of rear tire to slow and stop wheel. You will feel if too strong , but you should be able to stop it . If not you may have clutch drag. Also as said earlier get someone with hex or motoscan and reset shift assist and transmission adaptations .
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Have motoscan will give it a go.
 
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