Swapped to a 1300GS

[karlakGS]

Swapped my 1250RS for a nearly new 1300GS today. What a lovely bike it is, rode it back cross contry/towns to save the motorway drudgery and I now see why the Adventure bikes are so popular - holding it back at 5000 rpm was a bit of a chore, but won't be long, and was surprisingly spritely even holding back the reigns.

Back out tomorrow to get some more miles in for the 600mile service.

Now to sell the R1250RS bits and bobs to get funds to buy R1300GS bits and bobs ..

 

[Khulu]

Just took delivery this morning of a R1300GS TB TE.

Two things:

I got the spare plastic key and also a tab with a code on it but the book doesn't mention it! I have the same with my 1260S Multistrada but it tells me about the starting code if necessary. Is it a starting code and, if so, how and where?

Both exhaust O2 sensors have about 40mm of uninsulated cores exposed and I'm sure this isn't right and should have an overall insulation - comments please.

It's two years old, 1100miles, and has just had a new engine fitted - were the early ones faulty?

 

[Deleted account 251212001]

Just took delivery this morning of a R1300GS TB TE.

Two things:

I got the spare plastic key and also a tab with a code on it but the book doesn't mention it! I have the same with my 1260S Multistrada but it tells me about the starting code if necessary. Is it a starting code and, if so, how and where?

Both exhaust O2 sensors have about 40mm of uninsulated cores exposed and I'm sure this isn't right and should have an overall insulation - comments please.

It's two years old, 1100miles, and has just had a new engine fitted - were the early ones faulty?

mine is the same bike and I am not aware of a key code to start , perhaps its just for a replacement key, I know the black round tab you mean.

To start the bike with the spare plastic key (or the main key with a flat battery) , lift the rider seat there is a round plastic dish 'ring Ariel' to place key on.

Page 94/95 of manual.

https://manuals.bmw-motorrad.com/manuals/BA-Extern/IN/BA-INTERNET-COM/PDF/R_0M21_RM_0223_01.pdf

o2 sensors - some with not covered by the black insulate can be seen about 10mm on both sides on my bike.

 

[Khulu]

mine is the same bike and I am not aware of a key code to start , perhaps its just for a replacement key, I know the black round tab you mean.

To start the bike with the spare plastic key (or the main key with a flat battery) , lift the rider seat there is a round plastic dish 'ring Ariel' to place key on.

Page 94/95 of manual.

https://manuals.bmw-motorrad.com/manuals/BA-Extern/IN/BA-INTERNET-COM/PDF/R_0M21_RM_0223_01.pdf

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o2 sensors - some with not covered by the black insulate can be seen about 10mm on both sides on my bike.

I read about the antenna ring thanks.
I put tape around the exposed cores - dealer should have seen and fixed this.

 

[richh]

The lambda sensor wiring is pretty standard like that in most vehicles. The sheathing is only there for abrasion resistance.

The thinking being that nothing should be able to rub on it that close to the sensor.

The wires are sealed into the sensor so the sheathing isn’t there for water tightness or anything.


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[pbbanks]

Just took delivery this morning of a R1300GS TB TE.

Two things:

I got the spare plastic key and also a tab with a code on it but the book doesn't mention it! I have the same with my 1260S Multistrada but it tells me about the starting code if necessary. Is it a starting code and, if so, how and where?

Both exhaust O2 sensors have about 40mm of uninsulated cores exposed and I'm sure this isn't right and should have an overall insulation - comments please.

It's two years old, 1100miles, and has just had a new engine fitted - were the early ones faulty?

I had a previous 1200gs which had been fitted with a new engine by BMW under warranty because of paint corrosion, that may be why yours has had a new engine??.
Worth checking the engine number against the log book to see if they have had that updated with DVLA. Mine hadn't been changed and I had to send it off with a covering letter from my dealer to explain itb& get it changed on the V5.

 

[Khulu]

The lambda sensor wiring is pretty standard like that in most vehicles. The sheathing is only there for abrasion resistance.

The thinking being that nothing should be able to rub on it that close to the sensor.

The wires are sealed into the sensor so the sheathing isn’t there for water tightness or anything.


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I was thinking more about potential damage from stones, etc. breaking a wire.

 

[TaskMule]

I read about the antenna ring thanks.
I put tape around the exposed cores - dealer should have seen and fixed this.

This is how every oxygen sensor is done on every car, truck and motorcycle. This is 100% not a problem. Dealer should never try and fix something like this.

 

[botus]

decent ones are made correctly - even dirt cheap pattern ones can be made well - what you have is just a sign of the actual quality they peddle

this is only £8

1K0998262S Oxygen Sensor Wideband O2 Sensors Lambda Probe For AUDI SEAT ALHAMBRA ALTEA IBIZA LEON TOLEDO 1.4-4.2 0258010036 - AliExpress

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www.aliexpress.com

 

[richh]

Ali Express.

Probably receive a rubber dog turd instead. But not to worry, full refund.

 

[pbbanks]

I read about the antenna ring thanks.
I put tape around the exposed cores - dealer should have seen and fixed this.

Apparently the gap between the outer sheath and the inner wires in the lamda sensor is supposed to be there. It's to allow air to flow & affects how they work.

You should remove the tape you added

From a Bosch internet article :--
" the tiny amount of space between the insulation and wire provides enough room for air to seep into the sensor (for this reason, grease should never be used on O2 sensor connectors because it can block the flow of air). Venting the sensor through the wires rather than with a hole in the body reduces the risk of dirt"

 

[pbbanks]

Just took delivery this morning of a R1300GS TB TE.

Two things:

I got the spare plastic key and also a tab with a code on it but the book doesn't mention it! I have the same with my 1260S Multistrada but it tells me about the starting code if necessary. Is it a starting code and, if so, how and where?

Both exhaust O2 sensors have about 40mm of uninsulated cores exposed and I'm sure this isn't right and should have an overall insulation - comments please.

It's two years old, 1100miles, and has just had a new engine fitted - were the early ones faulty?

The gap on the insulation is supposed to be there, it allows air to flow between the insulation & the inner wires and is by design. Sounds strange but it can affect how they work if you tape the ends up.

From Bosch :-- " the tiny amount of space between the insulation and wire provides enough room for air to seep into the sensor (for this reason, grease should never be used on O2 sensor connectors because it can block the flow of air). Venting the sensor through the wires rather than with a hole in the body reduces the risk of dirt ".

 

[Khulu]

I still have 10-20mm gap but reduced it from the 40-50 it was.
Thanks for the info.
My 1260 multistrada doesn't have a gap.

 

[TaskMule]

Just start riding, forget all that stuff

 

[botus]

Apparently the gap between the outer sheath and the inner wires in the lamda sensor is supposed to be there. It's to allow air to flow & affects how they work.

You should remove the tape you added

From a Bosch internet article :--
" the tiny amount of space between the insulation and wire provides enough room for air to seep into the sensor (for this reason, grease should never be used on O2 sensor connectors because it can block the flow of air). Venting the sensor through the wires rather than with a hole in the body reduces the risk of dirt"

no - that's the small 1mm or so holes you'll find around the metal bit - it compares outside air to exhaust gases - no one ever explained how the bike works when driving in a monsoon

oh no this one is made correctly too

How O2 Wideband Controllers work - Haltech

It cannot be overstated just how important it is to get reliable and accurate data from your wideband air-fuel ratio meter. And while there is a multitude of different wideband O2 sensors on the market and they don’t all play nicely together.Before discussing the different types of sensors...

www.haltech.com

 

[pbbanks]

no - that's the small 1mm or so holes you'll find around the metal bit - it compares outside air to exhaust gases - no one ever explained how the bike works when driving in a monsoon

oh no this one is made correctly too

How O2 Wideband Controllers work - Haltech

It cannot be overstated just how important it is to get reliable and accurate data from your wideband air-fuel ratio meter. And while there is a multitude of different wideband O2 sensors on the market and they don’t all play nicely together.Before discussing the different types of sensors...

www.haltech.com

Think I'll believe what BMW do, & what Bosch say, rather than what you say.
Quote from Bosch --
"Venting the sensor through the wires rather than with a hole in the body reduces the risk of dirt ".