System 4 Helmet and rain

[rugbug]

I have done a search on the forum to see if anyone else has a similar problem, and maybe it is just me, but I am getting peeved with the amount of water that drips inside the visor when it rains. If you have the visor fully shut, it still manages to drip down the gap between the inside top edge and the helmet itself and makes viewing very difficult. Last night when it pissed down, there seemed to be more water inside the visor than out. Eventually you have to ride with the visor partly open to see clearly, which kind of defeats the object.

Does anyone else suffer this? Had my helmet for nearly 2 years now and wonder if there might be a better helmet that can cope with rain. Suggestions on a postacrd please...

 

[Llama]

I have been wearing a system 4 for the last 3 years, over that time I've ridden through some pretty bad conditions and 've never had any problem on the move.
It can be a pain of I lift the front in the rain at stops etc. because rain can get under the visor when you tip your head or if the wind is blowing etc.

Otherwise it is the best helmet I've ever had.

 

[Yorkie]

I got very pissed off with my Shuberth doing exactly that - and I believe they make the lids for BMW.

 

[Bigtwin]

I have just learned that mine does that too - not happy.

My Arai RV stays dryzabone though (and it's quieter), but you loose the flip front benefit.

 

[Cooky]

My schuberth is in the cupboard as an emergency helmet. My 4 year old Arai RV is now my number 1 again because of the rain issue. It's bollox for a £350 helmet

 

[Milk Tray Man]

System 5... same issue

Have had a system 5 now for about 2 months and been pissed on several times with mixed results. Stayed lovely and dry on a long weekend in North Wales when Wales did its usual thing. However a couple of times on my regular commute into London have experienced leaks onto the inside of the visor. As I wear glasses it seems to change the interior atmosphere and makes the glasses much more prone to steaming up so get double the trouble!!

Not realy what you expect for a £280.00 lid!

 

[peten]

My system 4 does exactly the same thing, although I feel that the problem is much worse when riding the blood bike (1300 Pan) than the GS.

I think it's possible to set the adjustable screen such that the rain is being forced downwards by the airflow. I wonder what size screen you have on the GS and if a similar thing is happening?

On my (1200)GS, the screen is lower, so rain seems to run off the helmet sideways rather than downwards and I don't seem to have the problem with leaks.

Cheers

Pete

 

[beemerman]

I too wear glasses & to say that the system 4 is a pain in the a--- when it rains is an understatement. First the visor steams up, so you crack it open a fraction. Then the rain runs down the inside & drips onto your glasses. Not ideal. If it looks like rain i tend to use my old Roof RO10. This defeats the idea of using the flip front, being able to fill up etc. without first taking off glasses then the helmet. Perhaps i should get contact lenses

 

[Steptoe]

. First the visor steams up, so you crack it open a fraction.

Fit a double glazed visor never have misting/steaming up again

Mine comes out every winter. Fabtasticly simple . But it works

 

[walkon40]

Fit a double glazed visor never have misting/steaming up again

Mine comes out every winter. Fabtasticly simple . But it works

er, but they are not exactly, er, cheap?!

Martin

 

[Bigtwin]

er, but they are not exactly, er, cheap?!

Martin

BMW ones aren't that's for sure. But I have a fog city in the Arai (been using them for about 7 years) - does the job perfectly, and was free in the bargaining for the lid when new. You need to take some time fitting them though, get the inside of the visor clinically clean first (ideally fit one at new), and make sure you really get the sealing right, leave it overnight, and check/re-press again before use. I know some people think they are uselss, but I'm convinced that's often down to bad fitting/dirty and scratched visor problems.

They do a nice light reactive one now too. And a yellow one for nights/winter.

 

[Neil W]

My system 4 evo was the same, however, after an recent helmet concrete stairs bouncing interface when i dropped the damn thing, I went out and bought a new system 5. Its more comfortable, lighter, quieter, suffers less buffetting and to date none of the leaking, misting or water clearing problems of the older lid. In my opinion well worth the update.

 

[Wicker]

Shoei Synchrotec2

My Shoei Synchrotec2 is also bad for getting rain inside the visor. I find that the plastic screws where the visor clips onto the side-pod regularly work loose with use meaning the visor then does not seat properly.

This is my third Shoei, but first flip-front. Th Syncrotec is the only one where water ingress has been an issue.

I had been thinking of a change to System5 next year; how are they for water ingress?

David

 

[Crazy Horse]

BMW ones aren't that's for sure. But I have a fog city in the Arai (been using them for about 7 years) - does the job perfectly, and was free in the bargaining for the lid when new. You need to take some time fitting them though, get the inside of the visor clinically clean first (ideally fit one at new), and make sure you really get the sealing right, leave it overnight, and check/re-press again before use. I know some people think they are uselss, but I'm convinced that's often down to bad fitting/dirty and scratched visor problems.

They do a nice light reactive one now too. And a yellow one for nights/winter.

Interesting BigTwin, I tried a Fog City and found I got reflected light - a sort of halo effect - I wear glasses and I think it was worse with glasses. I ripped it off. But your post has made me think maybe I didn't fit it properly? I have a Shoei and love it but also suffer from water inside the visor. I think I'll give Fog City another go... Thanks.

 

[gasman]

Never had this problem with my system 4.
I'll second steptoe's recommendation of the double glazed visor : excellent. About 65 quid, but should last for ages especially with winter use only.

 

[(RIP) sherpa]

I have done a search on the forum to see if anyone else has a similar problem, and maybe it is just me, but I am getting peeved with the amount of water that drips inside the visor when it rains. If you have the visor fully shut, it still manages to drip down the gap between the inside top edge and the helmet itself and makes viewing very difficult. Last night when it pissed down, there seemed to be more water inside the visor than out. Eventually you have to ride with the visor partly open to see clearly, which kind of defeats the object.

Does anyone else suffer this? Had my helmet for nearly 2 years now and wonder if there might be a better helmet that can cope with rain. Suggestions on a postacrd please...

Yeh me too! I had that problem with a system 4 so I changed it for the 5 and guess what? Still got the problem although not as bad.
My Shoei also does it so maybe its my head angle or something!!
Sherps

 

[GSAde]

Funnily enough I never had this problem with my system 4 but when I replaced it with the 4 evo sure enough rain dripped down - straight on to my conk! Can't help having a bloody big nose

Definitely go for the double glazed visor tho' - mines lasted three autumns to spring now - use normal one in summer to save wear n tear on't dear un.

Ade

 

[blues n twos]

I havn't got the BM lid but I am using a Caberg Justissimo with the flip down pilot visor. This also lets in rain on the inside and is a real pain. My cheapo Nolan lid was water tight and it came with a detatchable inner visor that kept it mist free as well.

 

[Bigtwin]

Interesting BigTwin, I tried a Fog City and found I got reflected light - a sort of halo effect - I wear glasses and I think it was worse with glasses. I ripped it off. But your post has made me think maybe I didn't fit it properly? I have a Shoei and love it but also suffer from water inside the visor. I think I'll give Fog City another go... Thanks.

Glad to be of use for a change. Just to clarify, I'm not saying that you don't know it's there when fitted, it's not quite the same as looking through the visor on its own; you do get a very small amout of diffusion. But not enough to worry me, even in heavy rain, and IMHO the benefits of not having any fog-up far outweigh the disadvantages. I generally wear mine with either sun or yellow glasses, and it doesn't seem to worsen anything, but then they're not prescription glasses, so mebbe that makes a difference?