Techlusion - bike base settings

[Dr Bones]

Picked myself up a 'new, old stock' Techlusion 1030 today for a reasonable price. I spent an hour putting some oem type plugs on the wires before I installed it. The instructions said to disconnect the O2 sensor. I don't have one on my UK R1100GS, which made me think, American product so perhaps I should set the bike up like an America model before I install the Techlusion?

So pink cat code jumper made up (pins 30-87-87a) and on the 1030 went.

I set it as the instructions said:

Green pot 3 o'clock
Yellow pot 3 o'clock
Red pot 1 o'clock
RPM pot 9 o'clock

The bike runs pretty smoothly, but feels a bit weak at the top end (currently no fuel added by red pot). However the fuel cut on closing the throttle seems very aggressive (might be the Pink CCP setting ?). How has anyone else set one of these up on a R1100GS?

(My bike is completely stock - no aftermarket exhaust / air filter etc)

 

[Jiffy176]

Have an R259 on my 1150. Took it to tts who used to import and had it set up on dyno. Best 60 or so quid I spent. Mine runs standard filter and cat with Remus can. So almost like standard. I used base settings and it was too rich on hard acceleration the other three were about right. Took a couple of hours to set up but the result I found is a different bike much more reliable and no more surging.
The instructions state bike electronics to be standard so I think your guess on the ccp would be a good one. The vendor in America was very helpful when I questioned so might be worth giving them a shout. As you know the tech only adds fuel by holding the injectors open for that bit longer so I doubt it would effect of throttle, though I'm sure an adult will be along to correct me soon. My base instructions for red pot are higher I think I would say try two o'clock and see how it is or pop to tts as you are not far away. You could the potentially have it set up without the ccp bridge

 

[motobiker]

Dr Bones - American 1100GS's had a catalytic converter as standard.

 

[Dr Bones]

Dr Bones - American 1100GS's had a catalytic converter as standard.

I realise that, but the techlusion instructions state to disconnect the O2 sensor, so that effectively negates that cat being there, unless you are thinking it adds a bit more back pressure to the system?



I was basically looking for the CCP map with the most spark advance, but wanting to control the fueling with the techlusion unit. The two full power CCP (for the r1100gs)are the Beige one (uses CO pot) and the Pink one (uses O2 sensor). It would appear that pin 87a denotes full power and 87 use of O2 sensor (with pin 30 being the common base pin). The fourth possible pin (86) denotes a reduced power setting.

 

[motobiker]

I realise that, but the techlusion instructions state to disconnect the O2 sensor, so that effectively negates that cat being there, unless you are thinking it adds a bit more back pressure to the system?

No.. I'm not thinking that - i'm not thinking anything beyond reminiscing back to the heady days before this forum existed when the only reason for fitting a techlusion to an 1100GS (usually an American bike) was as a cure for 'surging'.

I've never heard of it providing performance gains (however you choose to define that) on a completely 'stock' 1100. That may not be true of bikes with after market exhausts - but fitting one of those has never appealed to me either.

in sum - i think you're on a hiding to nothing.

No offense to jiffy - but his comments are completely irrelevant as he is talking about an 1150. chalk and cheese.

 

[Jiffy176]

Chalk and cheese they may be but setting up is a similar process. I would suggest that having my tech fitted gave no extra power. Just makes the bike a lot more user friendly especially at the lower end of the rev range, cures surging and cured my under load pinking.
When I got my bike it had y piece and remus which was too loud for me. I messed around with y piece and standard can and the cat and Remus. In my opinion putting the cat back on gave more of a mid range boost. The cat silences so well that Remus or standard noise wise appear the same. The guy who dyno'd mine said with ypiece filter and can the tech can increase power as it can fuel to match the open filter etc but standard it just improves the ride.
Just my ten pence from speaking to an expert on the subject. Good luck with it.

 

[Dr Bones]

OK, just got back from a 100 mile ride (bit of everything, fast country roads, slow on off throttle round town stuff and some dual carriageway.

When I fitted the Techlusion, I wasn't looking for any performance gains, just to smooth the motor out and get rid of the surging, that I only seemed to be able to move to different places in the rev range regardless of what I tried

Anyway these were the Techlusion settings I finished up with

Green pot - just over 3 o'clock (probably 3.15)
Yellow pot - 3 o'clock
Red pot - 2 o'clock
RPM - 9 o'clock (equates to 4500rpm)
Cat code plug - Pink (87-87a-30)
TPS voltage 3.63

The bike runs much smoother than I've ever managed to get it before. Prior to this the best I could achieve was with no cat code plug and the TPS set to 3.40, the surging mostly disappeared, but the bike felt very rich and 'soggy' through a lot of the rev range.
I'm waiting for the bike to cool down so I can take a look at the plugs, the exhaust doesn't seem too sooty (maybe just a little). It's a bit early to tell, but my calculations suggest, I'll get about 190 miles on a tank of fuel, this is down on the beige cat code plug by about 10-15 miles, but better than no cat code plug by about the same.

All in all, the bike is just much nicer to ride with the Techlusion fitted.

 

[Dr Bones]

Just checked the plugs, both plugs have a very light tan colour to them. They are not too dissimilar to when I was running with no CCP. certainly not sooty at all.