Test ride and vibes

Shamone

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I've been lurking on this forum for a while, researching about the new GS by reading up on people's views, problems, upgrades etc. I have never had an adventure bike and only recently moved to naked bikes a few years ago after many years of sports bikes. I currently have a Street Triple R and a CBF1000 for distance. I've been pondering whether the GS could replace both bikes.

Well finally popped over to Rainbow Motorcycles in Rotherham (UK) and took out their demo GSW yesterday. Had it for 2 hours so tested it in slow city traffic and across the Peak District. I was totally blown away by the handling - just so easy to lean over and transition from one side to the other. The bikes feels very lightweight once on the move, likes it's defying the laws of physics.

The engine had plenty of torque but I did think it was very vibey over 4k rpm. I checked the Odo and it had only done 380 miles so wondered if this was because the engine was tight, or just a characteristic of the bike?

Tested for my pet hate surging, by running at highish revs in a low gear at constant throttle and it was fine. When idling the engine sounded like it kept wanting to stall, but it didn't so perhaps this was because of the low mileage?

Had no issues with the gearbox, just what I think is the normal clunk into first. Definitely not the snick snick of my Triumph in the other gears but nothing that was an issue.

Played with the screen at different speeds and found that in the highest position if I tucked slightly I could get completely out of the wind. When not tucked it was a little buffeting so I preferred the lower position. Either way the speed felt slower than the Triumph then I'd realize just how fast I was going so it definitely works. The mechanism was very stiff around the mid position so think it needed greasing or adjusting.

Overall I thought it had great handling, much better than I expected, but the engine vibes at higher revs were a little intrusive to the extent that most of the time I rode the torque instead.

The current trade in offer made me wince, and they are calling me with a final offer next week.

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Good review mate! It's a great bike.

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I've had a CBF1000 and whilst it had lots of torque and a very smooth engine, it's a completely different beast to a boxer twin. Inline 4 engines are inherently less vibey than any twin. The big difference for me is character. I've had a Moto Guzzi Stelvio as well and the big twins are so much more fun to ride day in day out. I recently test rode the CBF1000F while deciding where to go from an F800GT (and that is one vibey bike!) and the Honda was very capable but a little dull frankly. The GS also does much better on fuel than my CBF ever managed, although it's closer than I'd like as I can't resist giving it some (only up to 5K rpm of course, it's still running in). The GS feels just great, the engine doesn't feel tight and aside from the occasional difficulty finding neutral from 1st, is as close to perfect as any bike I've had (and I've had 17 in 3 years!)
 
When I first thought of having a GS, I test rode the Air cooled model. I hated the thing, due to the amount of vibration. But this new WC one seems so much better. Still has vibrations, which is an inherent characteristic of any boxer engine.

I have found that the engine gets more and more addictive........................ Like no other bike I've ever had. Hard to explain, but if you buy one, I think you'll soon find out for yourself.

By the way................ This is my first foray into the adventure bike market too. Not regretting it one bit.
 
I had a Ducati Diavel which I chopped for the Street Triple last summer and surprisingly it hardly had any vibes. I think your right in it just being a characteristic of the boxer engine.

I forgot to see what the rpm was at 80mph in 6th to see how it would be on the motorway.


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After several test rides I was unsure of the advantages the new LC had over the older model, I was far from blown away as most others have been. The test reviews in all magazines were so full of praise I thought I was going mad. I bought one and in 4 weeks have covered 1600 miles. If I could now turn back time today I would go back to my 09 model.
Yes this bike is quicker, uses less fuel, handles a bit better but-
It vibrates more from time to time, the engine is shockingly noisy if you are not under power, I have done the thrash from point to point bit after running it in, I'm now bimbling about as I have on my previous two dozen or so machines and this is not the best bike I have ever owned.
In the bikes defence, and the reason I bought one is,- my previous two BMW bikes.
F800GS- bought because my wife on her F650GS pissed all over my Kawa Versys in the Alps. I hated it but over 28000 miles grew to love it.
R1200GS -09 model - bought because I need two up touring capacity. I again hated the bike compared to the GS800, I considered swapping it after 2000 miles but grew to love its low down power and sweet engine response.

I'm hoping the LC gets to me the same way but the overall engine noise (not exhaust note) is driving me up the wall. I do use ear plugs and its not the solution. I'm hoping some of the screaming is the tyres, I'll be back on Tourances when these are done.
 
After several test rides I was unsure of the advantages the new LC had over the older model, I was far from blown away as most others have been. The test reviews in all magazines were so full of praise I thought I was going mad. I bought one and in 4 weeks have covered 1600 miles. If I could now turn back time today I would go back to my 09 model.
Yes this bike is quicker, uses less fuel, handles a bit better but-
It vibrates more from time to time, the engine is shockingly noisy if you are not under power, I have done the thrash from point to point bit after running it in, I'm now bimbling about as I have on my previous two dozen or so machines and this is not the best bike I have ever owned.
In the bikes defence, and the reason I bought one is,- my previous two BMW bikes.
F800GS- bought because my wife on her F650GS pissed all over my Kawa Versys in the Alps. I hated it but over 28000 miles grew to love it.
R1200GS -09 model - bought because I need two up touring capacity. I again hated the bike compared to the GS800, I considered swapping it after 2000 miles but grew to love its low down power and sweet engine response.
I'm hoping the LC gets to me the same way but the overall engine noise (not exhaust note) is driving me up the wall. I do use ear plugs and its not the solution. I'm hoping some of the screaming is the tyres, I'll be back on Tourances when these are done.

Are your OEM tires the Anakee3? I've read that some of them howl very loudly, although my current set does not seem that loud.
My 2013 GSW engine does not seem that noisy to me, but then again I'm used to the clattering of an aircooled Ducati, so just about any motor would seem quieter than that.

As for the first post in this thread: it doesn't sound like you got to ride a good example of the GSW. I've found the GSW (both my own and the two I test rode) to have some vibes, more than my Ducati, but much less than the older 1200/1150 models I've ridden, especially when you spin it above 5k rpms. To me, the engine feels usable all the way to redline, contrary to the oilcooled ones that complain a lot when you spin them up. I did multiple rides last year where I was hammering the bike up and down thru the revs in the twisties all day long, and my hands were fine at the end of the day.
 
380 miles : its not even past the running in 1st service.

agree that the bike's handling is a revelation (i have a 2014 GSW). Thats the main thing for me. It can have the best and smoothest engine in the world but if the handling is wanting , nothing will help the setup.

as for vibey , what are you comparing it to ? Is it glass smooth ? Of course not. Does it vibrate more at certain engine speeds ? Sure , all engines do that. Does it vibrate more than my old 80 ci FLSTC ? Hell no. Does it vibrate more than my Kawa 1400 GTR ? No , but the GTR buzzes which is even worse than viby. Does it vibrate more than my single cylinder KLX250 (efi) ? No , the thumper vibrates more.

so , hey.

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I cant say I have noticed any real vibration on mine - 370 miles yesterday and my fingers and feet were fine - no numbness.

I have never really noticed engine noise either :confused:
I've never found myself ever thinking about the engine noise - maybe my earplugs are very good at reducing external noise :rolleyes:
 
It was vibey enough to send my fingers slightly numb, but could well settle down with a few more miles on the clock. I might try a different dealer for another test ride.


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After several test rides I was unsure of the advantages the new LC had over the older model, I was far from blown away as most others have been. The test reviews in all magazines were so full of praise I thought I was going mad. I bought one and in 4 weeks have covered 1600 miles. If I could now turn back time today I would go back to my 09 model.
Yes this bike is quicker, uses less fuel, handles a bit better but-
It vibrates more from time to time, the engine is shockingly noisy if you are not under power, I have done the thrash from point to point bit after running it in, I'm now bimbling about as I have on my previous two dozen or so machines and this is not the best bike I have ever owned.
In the bikes defence, and the reason I bought one is,- my previous two BMW bikes.
F800GS- bought because my wife on her F650GS pissed all over my Kawa Versys in the Alps. I hated it but over 28000 miles grew to love it.
R1200GS -09 model - bought because I need two up touring capacity. I again hated the bike compared to the GS800, I considered swapping it after 2000 miles but grew to love its low down power and sweet engine response.

I'm hoping the LC gets to me the same way but the overall engine noise (not exhaust note) is driving me up the wall. I do use ear plugs and its not the solution. I'm hoping some of the screaming is the tyres, I'll be back on Tourances when these are done.

I agree with you, I would go back to my 10 plate and now wished I had kept it, just seemed to have a bit more character and not a great fan of the throttle response on the lc. It's got that extra bit of power that the old one needed but so far I'm not overwhelmed. Maybe it will be a grower.
 
I agree with you, I would go back to my 10 plate and now wished I had kept it, just seemed to have a bit more character and not a great fan of the throttle response on the lc. It's got that extra bit of power that the old one needed but so far I'm not overwhelmed. Maybe it will be a grower.

Why not sell the LC, and get another twin cam? There's plenty for sale.

Genuine question BTW.:thumb
 
Hiya Nutty, PCP deal on it so it was either pay off the balance or trade it in. Irony is I had the cash to pay off the balance saved. Originally I was impressed on the test ride with the extra bit of oomph that I think the older model lacked and I'm sure I'll grow to love this one as much as the other. I've only done 600 miles on it since October so it's early days.
 
I understand what you mean. Was well happy with my last 2011 hexhead with Wilber suspension and fettled by Hilltop garage :D

Would still be riding it had some youth from Scunthorpe not T boned me and written it off :eek:

That said getting into the new WC and overall it is IMO a better bike - give it time :thumb
 
Its difficult Paul S. Sometimes its superb and the best ever, then you slow to a steady (my riding speed) rate and its once again its not quite right. 40 years of riding BSAs Triumphs Nortons etc makes you listen to the engine, they lets you know what's going on and sudden changes usually mean disaster. It has a two year guarantee so I'll ride my 30000 miles and see how it copes.
I did intend to make this my retirement keeper, but with this amount of clatter the cam chains must be taking a real hammering.
2 Years tops and it going.
 
Hiya Nutty, PCP deal on it so it was either pay off the balance or trade it in. Irony is I had the cash to pay off the balance saved. Originally I was impressed on the test ride with the extra bit of oomph that I think the older model lacked and I'm sure I'll grow to love this one as much as the other. I've only done 600 miles on it since October so it's early days.

In that case, get the first service out the way, and have fun putting some miles on it. Your bike isn't even run in properly yet, so stop worrying, and enjoy it.:thumb
 
After work today I had my first evening ride out this year, a perfect relaxing run, 120 miles through the Yorkshire dales with a soft setting sun, 18 deg and no traffic.
I dug out my old Alpine earplugs and used them instead of my usual ear putty kit plugs. Instantly a lot of the thrashing noise disappeared and and the riding was so much more pleasant. I'm thinking different ear plugs let through different frequencies, mine took out the good and left all the bad. The engine is still noisy without plugs so I'll stick to the Alpines, only problem is my ears get sore after a few six hour riding days.
The like/dislike balance has taken a massive swing towards like today.
 


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