It was a joke.
The best Chinese bike yet?
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It was a joke.
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For what it’s worth, I saw a Chinese bike at Sid’s do.
I have no idea what it was, they all look the same to me. That aside, the owner was very happy with it, from a price and quality of product point of view. I guess that is all that really matters. If it blows up or falls apart, he’ll maybe change his mind. But if it doesn’t or the repair there after is reasonably prompt, then he may well still think the bike is still very good.
Ride / drive whatever you like. A jaunt to the top of any mountain top, will be enough to prove that most machines - on two, three four or more wheels - (ancient or modern) and just about every manufacturer sells - or has sold- something that will make it from A to B and back again.
I have no idea what it was, they all look the same to me. That aside, the owner was very happy with it, from a price and quality of product point of view. I guess that is all that really matters. If it blows up or falls apart, he’ll maybe change his mind. But if it doesn’t or the repair there after is reasonably prompt, then he may well still think the bike is still very good.
Ride / drive whatever you like. A jaunt to the top of any mountain top, will be enough to prove that most machines - on two, three four or more wheels - (ancient or modern) and just about every manufacturer sells - or has sold- something that will make it from A to B and back again.
If a Fiat 500 was the same price as a Rolls Royce Spectre, id buy a Ford Focus cos i wouldn't be able to afford either.
Same applies to a fully specced and luggage GS for most people.
if you have plenty of money, of course your going with the tried and tested brand.
If your on a budget though, you HAVE to have what you can afford, so do you go with a Royal Enfield for example or take a chance on a fully specced Chinese bike with a bigger engine.
In a few years we will know the answer if there are no repeat Chinese buyers.
I could imagine this conversation many years ago when the BSA owner was taking the piss out of his pal buying a Honda.
I don’t think there was ever really such a conversation. The Honda * was, on any measure, a better machine. Not least, it was built in state of the art (for the day) factories, where output could outstrip the antiquated lines in the Midlands. Supply was quickly able to meet demand.
The rest is history, as they say.
The Chinese bikes are different, if only in as much as the quality is on a par (not necessarily better or greatly worse) than the competition, which they have - in the main - copied. So price, becomes a key determining factor. Supply, is not in question.
Honda had already established a base of sorts, with their very well made smaller capacity models. The 750-4 turned the rest of the market on its head.
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I’d test ride them both and buy the better bike .
And I very much doubt it would be the GS seeing as it came second last in the MCN review and the CF Moto came top .
The CF Moto was the best bike by far . The fact it is £7k cheaper than the 900 GS makes it something of a bargain . You’d have to be pretty stupid to spend nearly double on an inferior bike .
J biker
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Overweight, underpowered and a bit dull. I just dont get it.
Anti wheelie….? Why
If you are lucky enough to get the front wheel up, probably maxed out the potential for excitement looking at the spec…
Add in, they may be good value new, resale is going to be horrendous.
Anti wheelie….? Why
If you are lucky enough to get the front wheel up, probably maxed out the potential for excitement looking at the spec…Add in, they may be good value new, resale is going to be horrendous.
Agreed.
Another good reason not to waste money on the GS
The Chinese bike Wapping refered to was a QJMotor SRT 450 RX and i can confirm the owner is more than happy with it, he followed me down from Derby to Sids with zero problems and then made his way back again with no problems, for me the reliability of a motorcycle is the most important thing, so i guess as they age only time will tell with the Chinese bikes if they are as reliable as the eg Japenese, German, Italian bikes.
Guilty as charged! I was one of those motorcyclists in the late 60’s early 70’s who would never own or even ride a piece of “jap crap” as my BSA Lightning sat in my shed broken down yet again. Things did improve when I bought a Norton Commando but it still had its moments. Then I bought a Honda 400/4, I didn’t get on with it so I bought a BMW R75/5 which was great until an oil seal cried enough and gave me a wet clutch! And so I went back to Japanese bikes and apart from a BMW R1150GS, a Buell, a Triumph Tiger 1050 and a Harley FXDX I have ridden Japanese bikes for years. For me, if a Chinese bike works, then I would have no qualms about buying one.
And thats the crux of it.
Looking great and riding great is one thing, but the real priority is reliability.
if they get that right they will sell like hot cakes.
Nobody likes a broken bike no matter what they own.
European car/bike manufacturing cannot compete with Chinese manufacturing. It's economically impossible and will only end one way. My concern is the hidden cost-cutting that the established manufacturers will make to delay the inevitable.
Walmart have a simple business model. Undercut every local business until they go bust……….then they increase prices and charge what they want. The Chinese will do the same.
I have cooled off buying from Motorrad, but the Japanese bikes still offer competitive pricing, great aftersales and reliability.
Good dealers are dropping like flies and this bothers me. I’ve added a Yamaha to my garage and love the bike, but it’s a nightmare getting parts. There’s no dealers in Edinburgh or Glasgow now. I have to order parts from a jetski and quad dealer.
It’s going to continue to get worse unless shortsighted bikers stop buying Chinese shite.
I genuinely thought the more seasoned riders (on here) would know better?!
Anyway, I’m done now.
I have cooled off buying from Motorrad, but the Japanese bikes still offer competitive pricing, great aftersales and reliability.
Good dealers are dropping like flies and this bothers me. I’ve added a Yamaha to my garage and love the bike, but it’s a nightmare getting parts. There’s no dealers in Edinburgh or Glasgow now. I have to order parts from a jetski and quad dealer.
It’s going to continue to get worse unless shortsighted bikers stop buying Chinese shite.
I genuinely thought the more seasoned riders (on here) would know better?!
Anyway, I’m done now.
Scubaregs
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Not sure what is shortsighted by buying what you believe is the best bike you can get for your budget. I for one am happy to see the mainstream manufacturers get some stiff competition. Quite frankly they have been ripping us off for years and the only thing thsat will change that is competition.
My original plan was to spec an R1300rs from new next year, low seat on the configurator was £50. To buy outright it is circa £500 from Motoraad. As soon as I did the test ride and was comfortable enough with the standard seat I started searching used.
Seriously, £500 for a seat?
Then if I want to add the central locking top box for my bike when the bike already has all the fittings for it, over £1000.
My original plan was to spec an R1300rs from new next year, low seat on the configurator was £50. To buy outright it is circa £500 from Motoraad. As soon as I did the test ride and was comfortable enough with the standard seat I started searching used.
Seriously, £500 for a seat?
Then if I want to add the central locking top box for my bike when the bike already has all the fittings for it, over £1000.
Is there anything on this Earth, that the forum accepts as not being a rip-off?
The manufacturers have certainly sold enough of these vehicles (and much more besides) to suggest that many bods must enjoy the experience. You only need to look at the ever growing excitement around any new launch of a GS, bordering on hysteria. Paint it black and charge more, promotes tears of joy, exceeding that of the arrival of a real new baby.
It’s grim up north.
PS If it’s any consolation, London’s not awash with them either. The number peaked when grey imports were the ‘must have’ items and have been in steady decline ever since.
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