Theft and replacement

[Toshack10]

Greetings all
I recently had my 40th Anniversary TE nicked from a lockup near my home. Garage Defender was pried out of the ground to get the door open. The 16mm chain to ground anchor was removed, as was the alarmed disc lock (neither left behind). And of course the factory bits were bypassed/ignored. The bike was taken a couple of miles away and left for a couple of hours before the tracker gave it's last ping. Then it was gone. Likely a targeted theft and the insurer is already on paying me out. Lurking here, I've learned the replacement will have various Pragmasis bits to make it more secure and a second Garage defender will go on.

BUT... as a targeted/not impulse theft and given the weight of the bike, I can assume one of two things... they either used something like a pallet truck to get it out of the garage and then on to sometihng for a 2 mile (and then onward) journey. OR they have a box that bypasses the key/immobiliser (as seems to be the case for Range Rovers etc).

Begging the question... is there a key-fob delete/go back to an old fashioned key type thing for the immobiliser and alarm?

 

[Pukmeister]

Where do you keep the ignition key ?

I'm wondering how good these signal grabbers/amplifiers the criminals use are at finding and relaying even a very weak signal from an ignition key.

Not too difficult to remove the side panel and access the OBD diagnostic port (to gain access and hack the ECU/Immobiliser ??)

Perhaps use a Faraday cage type device for your next bikes keys ??

 

[Toshack10]

I was wondering that too but the lockup is a 5 minute walk away and the key at home. I GUESS they could have come by the house and pinged the key (unlikely). Does anyone know if you press the start button without the key nearby if the bike starts hunting for the key

I know someone who had their car (Not a Rangey) nicked off their drive. The local doorbell cameras picked up someone lying under the front end of the car and rasing a box under the engine bay. As they did this, the car unlocked/de-immobilised. It didn't start so they had to do it a second time. But they drove it away in under a minute. Being an RHD car likely quite difficult to sell on in many LHD markets (legit ones) but a bike really has no flags saying "I might be in the wrong country"

 

[Davey B]

Dragged out of the garage, thrown into the back of a van and driven off? You need to prevent them getting into the garage....once inside, they are away from prying eyes and the noise they make will be less noticeable.
When you've been out on the bike, do you park it outside your home and wash it? Do you leave it outside for any length of time Do you take different routes to the lock up....are you conscious of who is driving/riding behind you

 

[Big-G]

The technology used by some doesn’t have to have a key to relay to. My pal lost his car when his keys were in a faraday box which stopped him from getting in even with the box in his hand while trying to open. As you suggested, it looks very likely that it was carried somehow and it’ll probably be broken for spare parts. The trouble going back to keys are house break ins to get keys etc.

 

[Toshack10]

As they say, a determined thief will get it. Just thinking outloud really about a key vs fob. My home is liklely more secure a location for the bike but I'd almost rather they trash a rented lock-up than decide that they'll trash my garage at home and then go "ooh, while I'm here..."

 

[listermint]

They went to serious effort. The only thing you can do is slow them down and make it noisey.

I'd put in a big PIR led lamp inside the unit that comes on when door opened or 2.

And also alarm the door and the inside too with the loudest shit I can get.

 

[Gavla04GS]

They went to serious effort.

Clearly well equipped to do garage defender, chain and disk lock. For future maybe put up a camera and have a baby monitor inside the garage the other at home, so you can be alerted...


And also alarm the door and the inside too with the loudest shit I can get.

And a shot gun cartridge...Aimed in a safe direction of course....

 

[littleade]

As you say a remote lock up is going to be a softer target than your own garage. The question for me would be would they be likely to try and nick your bike from your house if you moved it there, especially if you improved the security?

The other thing to consider is burglars will often return to previous locations once the stolen items have been replaced so your lock up may well get targeted again once you get the replacement.

Might be worth contacting plod and finding out if any other bikes have been nicked locally to you. Good luck

 

[Mr Bean]

Clearly well equipped to do garage defender, chain and disk lock. For future maybe put up a camera and have a baby monitor inside the garage the other at home, so you can be alerted...


And also alarm the door and the inside too with the loudest shit I can get.

And a shot gun cartridge...Aimed in a safe direction of course....

Amazon.co.uk

 

[Bigcats]

Amazon.co.uk

Same but cheaper and next day delivery

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Alarm-Security-Burglars-Intruders-Galvanized/dp/B09HHLFMFX/ref=pd_vtp_d_sccl_4_2/259-3768241-1628569?pd_rd_w=tyr7V&content-id=amzn1.sym.7b03b296-ca7e-42c7-b279-dea680a9c6a4&pf_rd_p=7b03b296-ca7e-42c7-b279-dea680a9c6a4&pf_rd_r=DWSYX0713BR25KYT6VQ4&pd_rd_wg=37Ice&pd_rd_r=f36cd3e6-ec84-4239-93d6-27e9141930ce&pd_rd_i=B09HHLFMFX&psc=1

 

[Toshack10]

Might be worth contacting plod and finding out if any other bikes have been nicked locally to you. Good luck

Pah! My mate keeps a "small" Harley in my lockup. It's completely unlocked and still there!


OOOH, love the mine thing. I'm all over that (need to figure where i'd put one (or two))

 

[chablis]

^^ this is about the theft of desirable motors

 

[littleade]

Pah! My mate keeps a "small" Harley in my lockup. It's completely unlocked and still there!


OOOH, love the mine thing. I'm all over that (need to figure where i'd put one (or two))

Chain the new one to the Harley then, bet it's got a 5 star rating as a ground anchor

 

[Toshack10]

 

[grimo]

Had mine stolen last June, cctv showed that the bike was dragged out of site and within 2 min ridden away. I was told by a sales rep from BMW that they pull off the seat and swap the computer over enabling it to be ridden away.
All we can do is put more devices on to by time. As with chains, you need to chain it to something unmovable and keep the chain off the floor. Leant my lesson the hard way.

 

[TechnoGSA]

All we can do is put more devices on to by time. As with chains, you need to chain it to something unmovable and keep the chain off the floor. Leant my lesson the hard way.

Yep the layered approach, more the merrier.

 

[Gs12bos]

They went to serious effort. The only thing you can do is slow them down and make it noisey.

I'd put in a big PIR led lamp inside the unit that comes on when door opened or 2.

And also alarm the door and the inside too with the loudest shit I can get.

 

[Gs12bos]

Look up litelok X3 and hiplok D1000.

 

[Easy_Rider]

Get one of these for inside the garage to put the bike in as well.
There not a lot of money when you think how much you have spent on your pride and joy.

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