To Tenere or not to Tenere, that is THE question

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Been to have a good look at the only one left in M&S Newcastle today.

Sitting on it it feels lighter than the 650 Dakar, certainly less top heavy, and it's an incredibly well thought out design. Everything is where it should be with easy access. The Dakar was a right twat to change the air filter, plugs and so on. The Tenere has the new GS800 all over in it's design there is no comparison. Yamaha took what works and put it all together in one complete package.

I love the riding position it's so well protected and the front is a genius design even if it doesn't look traditional.

The bike is factory ECU chipped like the 800. After having my Dakar hot wired and rode away this is important to me.

The quality of the components is good in some parts and I complement Yamaha on the ceramic coated header pipe, but there is an appalling amount of raw steel components and bolts that will make the bike look shoddy after one winter. The quality is akin to a cheap Yamaha 125 not an R1.

The wheel spokes are mild steel and will rust quickly, the exhaust looks to be mild steel hidden by plastic bits and some of the paint is see through it's that thinly applied. I also note that very few bits are powder coated but are traditionally painted.

I'm torn between the Tenere and 800GS for my next bike. The tenere can do everything the 800GS can but will do it better because it's been designed by real pedigree and has an injection of soul. But I'm piss sick of maintaining bikes and want something that keeps away the rust. The 1200GS is bloody good at this (check out Kelley's 30,000+ miler). No doubt the Tenere will have an issue here.

:nenau
 
buy it

take the whole thing apart and get it industrially powder coated - everything

problem solved :nenau
 
Buy the older model 660 Yammy...and spend a little extra on extras :thumb2
New 800GS isn't exactly setting this website on fire....I'd wait a bit for BWM to get their act together re stalling/crap screen/knocking etc etc. I've an absolute belter of a Kawasaki KLR650.....virtually zero maintenance and pulls tree stumps out !!! I seriously wouldn't buy a new bike again...far to much depreciation in these 'credit crunch' times !!

Only Timpo can afford new bikes these days :augie
 
did you not find it very tall.
the one i sat on had a tow hook at the front.[great idea] :thumb
 
Air filter on the Dak takes 10 minutes max :nenau

I like the Tenere but find the pegs too close together so that when you stand on the pegs the body panels dig into my legs :(:(

Looking at the old XT's, if they are cleaned well they seem to keep pretty well.

I won't be swopping my Dak for one soon:thumb
 
In theory at least, the 800 is the better bike - more capable and a level up in terms of componentry. Not sure I personally would buy one though, the complexity (roadside fixability) and general BM reliability these days worrries me too much. I'd buy the Tenere. Interesting though is that what I've taken away from reading all the reviews is that people seem to like it, but say it's heavy, not particularly quick and whilst perfectly capable offroad, it's unlikely to be winning any Dakars any time soon. A genuine workhorse? Ideal RTW bike?

Looks fecking nutsy though :D

Pluck
 
The Tenere doesn't feel heavy, actually it feels lighter than the Dakar and F800. I was worried about the weight being an issue but they've got most of it low down.

As for being beat by the F800GS in terms of technology it most certainly isn't; injection, ECU, Euro 3 and so on. Only a tenere would have a tow handle on the front!

Flipfly, the footpegs on the Dakar as you know are up to shit all. No problem here on the Tenere. To change air filter on the Dakar the side panels must come off, a total bastard when you have Touratech Aux's and a good screen fitted! Even getting to the battery was a pain in the arse. Radical in design yes but doesn't work well in the field.

I'm 5' 11" and it's tall but no more so than the DRZ.

So £2,500 cheaper but some of that is lost to the quality of finish - but this is a seriously good bike otherwise.

I reckon give a year or a few they'll be quite a few in the Dakar. :thumb2

I'm sold on one...
 
To change air filter on the Dakar the side panels must come off, a total bastard when you have Touratech Aux's and a good screen fitted! Even getting to the battery was a pain in the arse. Radical in design yes but doesn't work well in the field.

How often do you have to do that then? Over 30,000 miles on my GS and I've never had to do that sort of maintenance outside of the comfort of my own garage. :nenau

I'm sold on one...

when do you pick it up then ?? :thumb
 
Saw one at P+H in Crawley in Sand colour a really good +Functionaly Looking thing,well thought out with good crash protection:augie .Yamaha quality is good but like any vehicle it will corode if you dont look after it .ACF50 gets my T Max through the winter though the build Quality on that is amazing as its built in japan. I hear its a bit gutless though ,so will benefit from a free'er exaust and other mods ,but as a starter adventure bike nothing comes close for value per £££££££:thumb
 
Flipfly, the footpegs on the Dakar as you know are up to shit all. No problem here on the Tenere. To change air filter on the Dakar the side panels must come off, a total bastard when you have Touratech Aux's and a good screen fitted! Even getting to the battery was a pain in the arse. Radical in design yes but doesn't work well in the field.

That's why I fitted TT pegs o mine and they are nice and comfy.

The screen doesn't have to come off to remove the side panels on mine, and it's only the right one that you take off for the air filter.
Battery takes 10 minutes to get to which is a pain in the bum, but I'm looking at fitting a jumper kit like those on the 1150ADVs to avoid that little issue.

I don't know how the TT aux lights fit o, but if they are like wifeys Transalp then it's only 2 screws.

I like the Tenere and love the look of it. I don't think it's issues couldn't be fixed, but then what will it do that my Dak won't do????

Forget the new Transalp, looks shite and has very little off road abitlity compared to the old one.

F800GS would be nice but I agree that it has issues that need sorting. The shite screen would be the main one for me, oooh and the reliability :hide
 
As for being beat by the F800GS in terms of technology it most certainly isn't; injection, ECU, Euro 3 and so on.

Who said anything about technology? The quality of the componentry feels better on the GS.... a level up from the Tenere.

Only a tenere would have a tow handle on the front!

Now I can see why you would want one :D

Pluck
 
What do MCN know other than tarmac blasts. I wouldn't consider their opinion for a second.
 
You have to add quite a bit of kit to the F800GS to make it viable for a mix of offroad and touring--better bash plate, higher screen--which the Ténéré already has.

However I decided not to go down the Ténéré route as I wanted a bike that was more capable for motorway stretches. If you can put up with that, the Ténéré looks a better choice.

Tim
 


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