To use a North American 2610 over here...

John:

Interesting thought - buying more storage cards for the SP III. If the price of the cards drops on the resale market (e.g. eBay), then that could be a good solution for those who need just a bit more capacity than one 128 meg chip can provide.

I did some touring early last year with two 128 meg chips for the SP III, it saved me having to bring a laptop along.

But, on the other hand, if map data continues to grow in size - as we have just seen with the release of CN Europe version 6 - then the functionality of the SP III will be compromised as time progresses, even if you have a few chips.

It's kind of like what happened with computer software about 10 years ago - Microsoft used to keep the total size of the 'Office' applications really small prior to about 1992, because the average hard disk size in widespread use was about 80 megs or so. But once hard disk sizes took an exponential jump in size around 1994, the applications made a similar jump in size, going from perhaps 3 megs for a full install to about 600 megs today.

My guess is the same rapid growth in size will take place with map data, as NavTech continues to drive roads and add attribute data. Two years ago, they had probably driven only 5% of the roads on the map database, but these 5% accounted for (my guess here) about 30% of the CD size. If they get, say, 25% of the roads driven by the end of this year, then we could be looking at a 500% size increase in the map segment data.

Although this would be very good news for users so far as quality of routing goes, it will be bad news for users who have limited capacity for map segment storage. It makes me wonder if we will eventually see a sharp market segmentation in cartograpy products - a high end product (a la Microsoft Office) for those who have unlimited storage capacity, and a more compact product (a la Star Office) for those who have limited storage capacity. This ight be happening already with the CN/CS products vs. the MG products.

PanEuropean
 
When to stop?

Mr Pan, too right, I guess it's the usual marketing men tempting us all the time and emptying our pockets. I wonder if we could all become beta testers for Garmin? :D :D :D
 
Yea, well, if you become a beta tester, your pockets empty even faster than normal.

I own (translation = buy with my own money) CN North America, CN Europe, CS South Africa, MetroGuide Canada, and WorldMap. I was buying these products with my own money long before I became a beta tester. My work is such that I go to lots of places. Most recent purchase I made was MG Canada version 4 this past December.

I bought two SP III GPSR's, one before I became a tester (Americas), one after (Atlantic). The only thing I have ever recieved "free" was a pre-production prototype of a SP 2650 last summer.

I also bought about USD 300K of Garmin avionics equipment, but this was for my employer, not for my own use, and this was long before I became a beta tester. In fact, I discovered the automotive (motorcycle) GPS units as a result of getting all the avionics, then having to train about 90 pilots how to use the new avionics equipment.

As far as I know, just about all the non-Garmin employee beta testers (and there are not many of us) stay pretty independent, we buy all our own stuff from retailers unless whatever Garmin wants us to test is not yet available on the market. I think it's best this way, it keeps us impartial and allows us to be critical, and advocate for our own area of special interest.

PanEuropean
 
There's now two of us on this Forum using imported 2610's - I'm using mine with City Navigator 6 and the other person's using the City Select 4 software that came with his GPS V. We both live a fair distance from one another ( 100 miles ) so if any problems do exist, we'll hopefully uncover them. If anyone else is getting an imported 2610 and finds missing cartography ( so far I haven't found any - my unit has even displayed the dirt roads in a camping site!), maybe we could list them here.
 
PanEuro

Many interesting points and I appear to have learned something. If you are saying that I will be able to autoroute using the basemap if I turn off all the maps on my V this may make v6 CS more viable as I can load maps for the alps area only and forget anything North of Troyes. As long as I turn the maps off I take it I will get reasonable routing from Troyes to Calais and vice versa.

Just one correction - you stated that CN is the only software that gives voice navigation, it's not. CS will also voice prompt when used with the iQue.

Adam :beerjug:
 
Re: Thanks

John Armstrong said:
I've had a couple of aviation GPSR's before I bought an SP3 a year ago. I'm only really considering the 2610 as I'm off to the states this year and the benefit of paying less $ than £ for one.

Probably the SP3 would do me for a long time, but the 26xx series overcome some of the SP3 difficulties ie storage and time to recalculate routes. The cheapest route would probably to buy more storage cards for the SP3.

Whether I need all the rest of the improvements is unlikely, but hey when did you last buy anything electronic that you needed all the improvements?

And with CN V6, I would need to buy more than the 128mb to get to the south of France from home which used to fit on V5! Forced to upgrade to a 2610, looks like the cheapest option as long as I pay in $'s.
 
Re: Re: Thanks

John Armstrong said:
And with CN V6, I would need to buy more than the 128mb to get to the south of France from home which used to fit on V5!
John, Crickey where do you live?. I regularly tour the south of France on a 64mg card on SP3.
John:D
 
Oop North

Up in Accrington, and the route goes near London and Paris. £100 for the V6 and another £100 for the needed data cards, bargain!
 
Just read all these post, and very informitive too. The conclusion I've come to, be it right or wrong is that, We would all buy the Atlantic version if the price was more realistic but to try to justify the difference between the Atlantic and Americas version is tantomount to insulting one's intelligence....so if anyone as an address of a reputable dealer in the states, please let me know.
I'll also be buying a SP111 in this country for the software. I'll still be quids in and have a SP111 and 2610 for the price of what the 2610 would have cost me buying it over here!
 
I have had my US SP3 for a year now, bought 2 for $1485 which at the time was quite good. I have had no problems with using the Euro maps on the 128mb datacard and I get the roads showing (no blank screen) at all zoom levels.
 
I'm pleased to say that the're now 6 Forum members ( that I know of ) using imported 2610's and none of us have found any missing roads. I'm doing a five country European trip next week, so I'll keep you posted how I get on.
 


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