TomTom hard wire issue

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So the TomTom has been hardwired into my new twin cam 1200, however, it stays on when the ignition is off, so I have to either pull the wire from the mount, or take it out of the cradle. There is only one way of hardwiring it (was done by the same BMW engineer that wired it on my other bike). On my other twin cam, it switches off after the canbus goes off after 30 seconds. Could a software update sort this, or does anyone have any other ideas?
 
There is a setting within the TT where you can set it to switch off after a period of time. Don't know where the settings are though.
 
My Zumo is hard wired direct into the sat nav socket on my 2011 GS and power down shortly after switching off the ingintion.
Sounds like you have an issue here which needs looking at by your supplying dealer.
 
The dealer have looked at it, and don't know what the issue is. As its a TomTom, not BMW navigator, they won't get too involved.:blast This may be a stupid question, but if I physically turn the unit off, but leave the lead plugged in, will it still draw power?
 
What happens when you remove the TomTom from the cradle, does it stay on or power off............

If it stays on then you need to look at your user guide for the unit.
 
What happens when you remove the TomTom from the cradle, does it stay on or power off............

If it stays on then you need to look at your user guide for the unit.

If it's charged, then it stays on. On my other bike though, it also stays on, unless I physically turn it off, but if I don't turn it off then after 30 seconds the power cuts out to the mount. It's not a problem if I remember to turn it off, on the new mount (as long as there isn't a constant feed), but if I forget to turn it off, it will stay on all night and flatten the battery.

My question is if I turn the actual TT off via the power button, and leave it in the cradle (as the feed is always live), will it be draining the battery, or will turning it off get around this?
 
My Tom Tom rider used to auto switch off when I disconnected power. But since a software upgrade about a year ago it doesn't anymore.

Must look at what JoeC says.
 
On tomtom rider V2,
Select - Change preferences then go through screens (think its the 6th )
Select - Battery saving preferences, select never turn off screen, Then done.
Next screen tick box - Switch off when external power is lost. Select done.

The three pin socket tucked away by the head stock is can bus controlled +ve -ve and speedo pulse. NN does a plug to fit this or make your own. :)
 
On tomtom rider V2,
Select - Change preferences then go through screens (think its the 6th )
Select - Battery saving preferences, select never turn off screen, Then done.
Next screen tick box - Switch off when external power is lost. Select done.

The three pin socket tucked away by the head stock is can bus controlled +ve -ve and speedo pulse. NN does a plug to fit this or make your own. :)

Thanks for. That. The trouble is that the external power is always live, so it won't turn off. Will the canbus keep a live feed going even if I switch the TomTom off at the power switch (on the TomTom)?
 
Tommorow I will put a meter on the TT feed and see if it is trying to charge the TT battery with the TT switched off.

If you can`t sort the can bus issue, you could put a relay in the TT feed and control it with the side light or dip beam circuit :)
 
Tommorow I will put a meter on the TT feed and see if it is trying to charge the TT battery with the TT switched off.

If you can`t sort the can bus issue, you could put a relay in the TT feed and control it with the side light or dip beam circuit :)

Appreciate your help.:thumb
 
I also have a T.T. supplied by Canbus, even if supply stays on it will only charge the TT battery and once charged draw next to nothing. Mind you, at the end of each day I remove the TT from its mount anyway...........
 
Maybe a switching canbus cable will sort this?:nenau
 
TT mount with no TT draws 12 ma ( 12 volt to 5 volt converter).
TT mount with TT mounted and TT switched off 300 ma dropping down to 70 ma when TT battery is fully charged.

If the dealers can't sort the can bus problem for the sake of £2.40 and a bit of wire I would put a micro relay in the TT feed cable and connect the relay coil to the side light circuit just behind the front side light bulb.

Relay - RS 334-0480 price £2.40 is only 13mm x 13mm x 14mm and draws 630 mw which wont be detected by the sidelight can bus. :)
 
TT mount with no TT draws 12 ma ( 12 volt to 5 volt converter).
TT mount with TT mounted and TT switched off 300 ma dropping down to 70 ma when TT battery is fully charged.

If the dealers can't sort the can bus problem for the sake of £2.40 and a bit of wire I would put a micro relay in the TT feed cable and connect the relay coil to the side light circuit just behind the front side light bulb.

Relay - RS 334-0480 price £2.40 is only 13mm x 13mm x 14mm and draws 630 mw which wont be detected by the sidelight can bus. :)

Cheers for that, I'll get back on to the dealer.:thumb
 
Had a chat with BMW garage to be told that they changed the software between 2010 and 2011 on the 1200, and that there is no fix.:eek: Are they talking bollocks?:augie
 
I think You will have to get feedback from someone with the same year GS1200.
Mine is a 59 plate and the GPS socket shuts down a short while after the ignition is switched off.
If in doubt fit the relay at least if the sidelights are off you know the power is of to the TT.
 
On tomtom rider V2,
Select - Change preferences then go through screens (think its the 6th )
Select - Battery saving preferences, select never turn off screen, Then done.
Next screen tick box - Switch off when external power is lost. Select done.

Cheers mate. Just done that.
 
I have my mount hard wired into the BMW socket under the steering head on the GSA. I have always had trouble with the current the mount draws without the unit in the cradle. Sometimes it lets the canbus shut down and sometimes it does not. Nothing scientific about volts and amps for me. Switch off the engine. Go back about an hour later and stick your tongue on the pins on the mount. More than likely you will detect a current. When I first used the mount on my GS I parked up the bike for a week and the battery was flat when I went back to it. Thereafter I unplugged it from the bike whenever I was not using it for more than a couple of days. Its a bit of a faff to get to the socket so when I fitted it to the GSA I mounted an inline switch near the right hand winglet and now keep it switched off unless the unit is in the mount.

There is an added advantage in the fact that the unit switches itself on when it is powered from the mount and if you only need the GPS for the last few miles of the journey to find an address you can leave it off with the route programmed in then flick the switch on the power lead when you want the unit switched on. Much easier than trying to hold the switch on the side of the unit.
 


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