Tried a Triumph Tiger 800 and Yamaha Super Tenere today

[DavidJames]

Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics....

 

[BBB61]

I think I am running out of puff fighting for the Tenere on a GS forum , right one last fling:

No, because it vibrates far more than the Yamaha everywhere! and they pointed out how crap it runs at low speed.

This is what they said about low speed running:-

"At low speed the throttle response becomes very choppy while easing along with slow traffic"

How does that translate to crap running at low speed Rasher? Especially as they rated the engine as better than the Super Ten for horsepower, torque, engine character and engine performance?

And this is what they said about vibration...................absolutely nothing!

I never said they had, but on this forum the mere suggestion anyone can beat a BMW in any area seems to enrage the "blinkered's".

Perhaps in your mind, but nothing as much as someone coming along and consistently posting incorrect information.

I have always stated I generally prefer riding the GS, but the Yamaha does have some tricks up it's sleeve. Similarly the GS has had decades of refining and does not beat the Yamaha in every department, surely it should be miles ahead with such a huge head start?

I completely agree with the 6 years Yamaha had they should have done a lot better, sharper steering is easy to attain, the modern LC engine should have had the edge from tickover to (a slightly higher) redline with more torque in the middle and a good dollop of whoop-arse at the top.

Yamaha have been building motorcycles for a long time as well so how come they have not been able to deliver a new product, having had years and years to buy a GS, take it apart, examine it, decided where they could better it and then build it?

I will forgive the weight on the basis it proves to be pretty bulletproof, and the new GS will probably weigh a fair bit more when carrying a radiator and gallon of coolant.

There is no reason why that should be the case. Years ago MCN were worried when emissions and noise regs were being tightened by the EU and MCN were all doom and gloom about bikes being much heavier as a result of watercooling and emissions kit. But it didn't happen.

I am not sure exactly what you said,

Which has been your problem all along. You shoot first and find out the information later.

nor can I be bothered to look for it, but you indicated my suggestion the Yamaha may be smoother and the GS is prone to vibration was ridiculed by me not knowing how to ride and you blurted on about how your GS pulls oh-so smoothly from 2k in top - my point is regardless of how smooth you think your bucking bronco of a BMW is at those revs and under that load the Tenere does it a shit load better!

If you go back to post 99 you will see I said the following:-

"I've not ridden the Super Ten so I can't comment, but I do have a twin cam RT which pulls from under 2000rpm in top gear nicely with no issues whatsoever."

Note the comment was about my twin cam RT, not a GS. As for the smoothness of the Yam, I have never commented about that, but I doubt it does it a "a shitload" better. I base that view on the road test you gave the link for and the comments on the GS engine by the testers. I suspect they are rather more impartial than you are, and they have ridden both bikes.

In the same post I also said the following in relation to your ability to filter and push the bike:-

"Maybe you should learn to ride the bike properly if you are having problem with filtering"

But hey, it's no surprise to see you continuing to misquote and misdirect. You have been consistent in that regard.

Now if I do get one of these beasties it will soon be fitted with a Wilburs shock with ride height adjuster to sort the steering, and an ECU remap with the Diapson mapping to get the power over the GS everywhere - and release all that grunt in the lower gears.

A lot of work to make the bike work as it should

Then I will come back and gloat some more, but until then I have to admit I will be enjoying every second I spend on my GS

And once you have done your gloating hopefully you will follow the response in the case of Arkell v Pressdram

 

[Lord Snooty]

Rasher and Bob, jeez where do you get the stamina from guys? I'm exhausted just reading this thread - nice spat though, very entertaining.

 

[Rasher]

I give in:-

Yamaha's are shit!

BMW's are Brilliant

I have never told the truth ever and everything I have ever said is a complete lie.

Sorted

 

[RichieS]

Jeeeeeez!

All this started with me and Tobers taking a couple of bikes out......and then buying said bikes......you boys need to get out more often!!

 

[Colban]

I hear Rasher is going to trade the SuperTen for one of the new Triumph 1200s in the new year.
Something to do with the awesome product quality and back-up i hear.
No exploding final drives etc etc etc from Hinckley.

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

I give in:-

Yamaha's are shit!

BMW's are Brilliant

I have never told the truth ever and everything I have ever said is a complete lie.

Sorted

Yep that's what I heard too ..... Fatbloke down the pub told me

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

I hear Rasher is going to trade the SuperTen for one of the new Triumph 1200s in the new year.
Something to do with the awesome product quality and back-up i hear.
No exploding final drives etc etc etc from Hinckley.

My Rocket III got recalled after a couple of months for a leaking final drive seal that had (allegedly) been the cause of a fatality in the good old US of A

 

[BBB61]

I hear Rasher is going to trade the SuperTen for one of the new Triumph 1200s in the new year.
Something to do with the awesome product quality and back-up i hear.
No exploding final drives etc etc etc from Hinckley.

Awesome product quality and back up from Triumph? Now that is funny!!

 

[bod]

Not often that I wander over to the Kia-Ora section....

But the news of Bob (Parking meter) Southgate's spat with Rasher (I'd rather have a Yam, thanks) spat came my way. All good stuff

Carry on, regardless.

I've been Tango'd too!

 

[cherokee]

opps

Oh sorry i thought id come to the KTM section....bye