Yeah just don't want him to not get somewhere too late and then bugger the rest of his trip up.
Trip August 2026 - Stelvio Pass, Davos, Eagles Nest
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I lived that kind of planning for 10yrs; and it was all well and good till you arrived at a company with someone already unloading and another 3 in front of you;; short of saying i'am God and everyone move out of my way try to be realistic with your times;; and more to the point ; enjoy.There’s nothing wrong with a spreadsheet, laying out where you intend to go. It’s only a neater version of a sheet of paper and a pencil.
Look very carefully at your estimated times and equate the mileages to something you can imagine in the UK.
For example: Day six, 206 miles in four hours. That is an average (nonstop) speed of 51 miles an hour, on as yet unspecified roads. You live, I think in the Midlands? Let’s say Coventry. Coventry to Carlisle is about 210 miles, direct by motorway.
Were you to ride from Coventry to Carlisle in the summer on holiday:
A. Would you take every B road to do it?
B. If you left your front door at 08:00, would you expect to be knocking in your first tent peg at midday in Carlisle?
And the same (or similar) the next day, and the day after that and so on for eight days on the trot?
Await your next set of workings with interest.
Cannot be arsed to read all the other comments and it looks like some good advice, and it seems as if you have plenty of time, so IMHO you can take the opportunity to ride a lot of good roads along the way, starting with the way down where you can drop through the Eifel and Black Forest into the Swiss Alps;
Here are some ideas to look at, play around with based upon my previous trips which may help;
I do not know anything North of point 4, but it looks quite built up and worth blasting past on main roads, but then goes through the Eifel and Black Forest on the way to Switzerland with a few Swiss passes before ending up in Andermatt, two days riding for us, but if not off ferry early enough probably three - Worth an extra night here and doing a looping ride, plenty to choose from;
Look at other routes in my MRA, I have half a dozen for Andermatt
Andermatt to Livigno is a decent ride and leaves you close to a nice "beat the rush" run up the Stelvio - Bormio is another option;
And then onto Austria via the Dolomites;
DEFINATELY worth stopping for an extra night in the Dolomites if you can to do a nice big run around some of the passes there, easily enough for 3-4 full days riding, but if you only have one day this is quite good
10 Passes in a day, I have a route with 17 that is do-able and a mate of mine did 23 - and got back before me on the day I did these 17, but he is one of those "Iron Butt" types.
From here it is an easy day to the Eagles Nest taking in the Grossglochner on your way.
I make that 6-7 days if you stopped for an extra day in Andermatt and Dolomites, if you can only spare 1 make it the Dolomites, a day in / around the Eagles nest and then shuffle off back towards home.
https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/14050169
Another 2-3 days back to the Ferry
There is a huge amount of the Alps taken in on a whistlestop tour there, with a general avoidance of too much Motorway except the first and last day.
Here are some ideas to look at, play around with based upon my previous trips which may help;
I do not know anything North of point 4, but it looks quite built up and worth blasting past on main roads, but then goes through the Eifel and Black Forest on the way to Switzerland with a few Swiss passes before ending up in Andermatt, two days riding for us, but if not off ferry early enough probably three - Worth an extra night here and doing a looping ride, plenty to choose from;
Look at other routes in my MRA, I have half a dozen for Andermatt
Andermatt to Livigno is a decent ride and leaves you close to a nice "beat the rush" run up the Stelvio - Bormio is another option;
And then onto Austria via the Dolomites;
DEFINATELY worth stopping for an extra night in the Dolomites if you can to do a nice big run around some of the passes there, easily enough for 3-4 full days riding, but if you only have one day this is quite good
10 Passes in a day, I have a route with 17 that is do-able and a mate of mine did 23 - and got back before me on the day I did these 17, but he is one of those "Iron Butt" types.
From here it is an easy day to the Eagles Nest taking in the Grossglochner on your way.
I make that 6-7 days if you stopped for an extra day in Andermatt and Dolomites, if you can only spare 1 make it the Dolomites, a day in / around the Eagles nest and then shuffle off back towards home.
https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/14050169
Another 2-3 days back to the Ferry
There is a huge amount of the Alps taken in on a whistlestop tour there, with a general avoidance of too much Motorway except the first and last day.
I've got to thank everyone here for the advice, hints and tips. It really is appreciated.
It's my first EU trip, and the only basis I have to go is travelling around the UK. That and it's based around my skiing trips lol
I'd have gone on an organised trip, but there are bits I want to see that others would not.
That, and none of them fit my timings.
I take your advice, and I've adjusted down to 40mph. That kinda makes sense. Which still gets me decent arrival times.
The times are really just to give me an idea, and what actually happens on the road could be a whole different ball game, and probably will be
I might stop a bit longer/shorted here or there, or spot something en route, or even add something when prepping for the next day.
Who knows, that's half the excitement.
It's my first EU trip, and the only basis I have to go is travelling around the UK. That and it's based around my skiing trips lol
I'd have gone on an organised trip, but there are bits I want to see that others would not.
That, and none of them fit my timings.
I take your advice, and I've adjusted down to 40mph. That kinda makes sense. Which still gets me decent arrival times.
The times are really just to give me an idea, and what actually happens on the road could be a whole different ball game, and probably will be
I might stop a bit longer/shorted here or there, or spot something en route, or even add something when prepping for the next day.
Who knows, that's half the excitement.
Thanks for those I may well use some of those route bits. Andermatt I've ski'd a couple of times so that could be interesting
100% theoritical. Everything will be down to whatever happens on the actual day(s)
