Tufty get the spanners out again

tuftywhite

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For anyone aware of my level of technical expertise, you'll be pleased to know that I'm attempting a high difficulty level project, moving on from such triumphs as putting a speedo bulb in and removing and replacing a front wheel.

This time, I am attempting to change some pannier rails and rack on my R80g/s. I realise that some of you may be thinking, 'has he gone too far?' You could be right.

I bought some Hepco and Becker panniers from Motobins during their open day last year along with the necessary pannier rails. I have now summoned up the courage to remove the old (original) rails and rack and replace them with the new ones.

Three Issues

Firstly, there are no instructions with the new pannier rails. Secondly, there seem to be around 700 more bits to the new rails when compared to the originals. Thirdly, I'm an enthusiastic idiot.


This afternoon, I made a cup of tea and ventured into the garage.

Tools used. Spanners (some, of differing sizes), an allen key (which also had a size) a penknife (for a legitimate use and not taken outside my property, blade length less than 3.5 inches).

My usual level of technicalness is removing the saddle. I flew past this stage like a pro. I then located some bolts that went through the pannier rails and undid them until the nuts came off. This was repeated for each nut and bolt. During the entire process, I only dropped one washer, which was quickly retrieved. (This is usually a problem for me, I find that around 10% of nuts fall to the floor and disappear under something immovable within 2 hours.) This was a moment of joy.

The penknife was used to cut through the cable ties which hold the indicator cables to the rack.

I am now at the stage where I have removed the original completely. 3 bits and a few bolts.

I have offered the new rack and rails up to the bike and have absolutely no idea how I'm supposed to attach them to the bike. I'm guessing by using some or all of the 700 bits that came in the bags.

I have asked Motobins for a set of instructions and hope that these come soon, otherwise I fear I will have to return to this post and ask you more experienced spanner wielders for some help.

Watch this space!
 
if you do get a set of instructions DONT READ THEM just throw them away and if you end up with spare nuts and bolts at the end thats a result you have more than what you started with ,whats the worst that can happen they fall off as you going along go into the back wheel causing you to crash ,however you sustain no injurys ,but unfortunatlly your bike is totalied ,best read the instructions or take it rob farmer or kenny
 
if you do get a set of instructions DONT READ THEM just throw them away and if you end up with spare nuts and bolts at the end thats a result you have more than what you started with ,whats the worst that can happen they fall off as you going along go into the back wheel causing you to crash ,however you sustain no injurys ,but unfortunatlly your bike is totalied ,best read the instructions or take it rob farmer or kenny

feck, keep him well away from me, :eek:Rob's the man :D!!
 
I thought I'd let you know where I'd got to.

I laid out all of the parts on the lounge floor and pretended I was making something out of grown up Meccano. After playing around a bit and receiving a 'translation'* of the instructions I thought I'd go a step further.

* The translation was only part help, as every noun, naming the specialist bit or bolts, was still in German, therefore offering no more help really.

I have now fixed the left and right pannier rails to the bike, in the only places I can see that they will fit properly.

I then tried to attach the piece that connects the two together, and holds the indicators, but this is fouled by the existing subframe. I can't move the rails back to clear the subframe, otherwise the bars that connect the rails to the passenger footrests won't reach.

Just out of curiosity, I thought I'd just see if the actual pannier went on the rail. It doesn't seem to fit. I know I've got to fix some more bits on, but I'm just not getting it at the moment. It is really quite annoying and probably the last thing I buy from Hepco & Becker.

When I have a little more time, I will have another look, when not being rushed to go for a curry, if failure results, I will speak to the people at Motobins for advice, guidance or counselling.

Obviously, if any of you have any ideas that will help, I would be most appreciative.
 
** Update **

I had a chat with the very helpful people at Motobins and we discussed the issues I am having. I was assured that the rails and rack are the correct ones so yesterday afternoon I persisted.

I moved the rails back a hole and fitted the cross bit (not the one by the number plate). This was quite difficult and the rails were under a bit of pressure to conform, which doesn't seem correct.

After this, I tried to put the rack on. There is no way the rack is going on. No way.

I go back to the Motobins website and go to the Hepco & Becker section.

There are two rack systems for the g/s. One is 1982 - 1987 and the other is '81 - '87. I have got an '81 bike and the '82 - '87 rails and rack, and this is causing the issue.

So, I phoned Motobins and they've ordered me in the other set and I've removed the ones I have and am going to take them back and pick up the others when they arrive.

Then, we can go through the whole process again!!!
 
All Done

To finish the story!!!

Apparently, the pannier rails that I had were a bit iffy. The pannier did not easily fit in it and I'm pretty sure some of the welding was in slightly the wrong place.

Motorbins very kindly suggested that I take my bike in when it suited me and they would attempt to put the rails and rack on, whilst I waited.

I rode over to Surfleet today and arrived unannounced. I was greeted with a cup of tea after I'd wheeled my bike into the workshop.

They had ordered a new rack and pannier rails to fit on the bike as they were sending the others back to H&B.

Terry and Barry then very kindly and professionally spannered the parts to my bike, which also meant lowering the number plate slightly. The rails and rack now fit perfectly and they wouldn't let me pay for their time.

Great service from Motobins, who have gone the extra mile to look after a customer. :thumb2
 


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