Tyre pressure system - awesome.

[GreatScot]

Typical response from a 'believer'

Rather than addressing the points raised (which were serious and on topic) you fall back to a position of "HANG THE HERETIC!" and abuse immediately.

Come back when you've got something to say on the ISSUE


As for "With modern tyres you don't get that difference in "feel" until its virtually deflated if your travelling in a straight line."....what miraculous tyres are you running that cause you to believe this?

I run exactly the same "modern tyres" on my "old" bike as you guys do, yet there is a distinct feeling present if a tyre is losing pressure....OK, I grant you, it's more noticeable on a corner, but outside of America's plains straight roads, where are you going to find a straight long enough for it to matter here


Sorry.....still can't see it being any more than a case of the "Emperor's new clothes"

Brilliant tactic! Bounce back unbowed with a patronising put-down, painting yourself as a victim (of abuse). And then launch into your third rebuttal of the ISSUE. Another opportunity taken to deal with dissent and continue the campaign to dominate the thought processes of the meek (who will not be inheriting any of FANUM's Earth).

ps re the ISSUE, no strong views but delighted that the OP is pleased with his gadget and sees its value.

 

[busy builder]

I see a value in it if only for checking tyre pressures when out on a long ride, it's nice to see the pressures on the way. Up here in the Highlands there aren't many places to top up the tyres anyway and I for one don't carry a pump.

As for ABS, although there are non believers (not just on here) I am a believer, it has saved me a few times on our gritty roads from skidding and sliding under braking, and not just heavy braking either, as we'll all notice grit from the road sometimes collects at road sides and junctions all waiting to catch us out.

Last year I pulled up into a carpark (slight incline) outside a local castle, slowed down, noticed the ABS come on, put my foot down which slid away from me and I fell over on the bike, and yes I did feel a prat. So the ABS worked in my favour if only I'd had it fitted to my boots !

 

[Reggie P]

Zumo 590 can be paired with $69 tyre pressure sensors for anyone who would like this technology but doesn't have the BMW equipment.
I'm tempted ... but then I'm very risk-averse and anything that can keep me safe on my bike is worth the money.

 

[stever1]

Anybody know where to buy replacement CO2 cylinders to pump up tyres ?.

PS. Yes Fanum, I know its another worthless gadget in your opinion, but I like them.

 

[Beemerman59]

Anybody know where to buy replacement CO2 cylinders to pump up tyres ?.

Ebay . How about a bulk buy? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CO2-CYCLE...sure_Cycling_BikeLocks_SR&hash=item35d37fdc94

 

[Fanum]

Brilliant tactic! Bounce back unbowed with a patronising put-down, painting yourself as a victim (of abuse). And then launch into your third rebuttal of the ISSUE. Another opportunity taken to deal with dissent and continue the campaign to dominate the thought processes of the meek (who will not be inheriting any of FANUM's Earth).

Seems to me that I HAVE addressed the issue

ps re the ISSUE, no strong views but delighted that the OP is pleased with his gadget and sees its value.

Indeed, and on that we are agreed

It wasn't the 'issue' though......that (IMO, and why I posted) is to do with how valuable the system actually is, and indeed if it might ultimately be almost dangerous in the way that it 'dumbs down' how people learn to ride now, and the senses that are engaged on a 'modern' cossetting bike.

As long as he likes it, it's his money and good luck to him.......Deep down though, seriously, don't you harbour any slight worry that 'idiot proof' systems might ultimately make idiots out of the riders?

 

[stever1]

Fanum, I will point you to post 13. Tell me, when you were just a lad, and you had to walk in front of one of the early cars waving a red flag I bet you thought ' these new fangled car things are dangerous cos they are not unpredictable like a good old horse'.
Times change, and embracing new equipment does not mean it is turning us into idiots. There are enough of those already - usually making silly comments ont tinterweb such as "indeed if it might ultimately be almost dangerous in the way that it 'dumbs down' how people learn to ride now, and the senses that are engaged on a 'modern' cossetting bike".


Incidentally, consider the fact that there are more than 3 vehicles on the roads in the UK now - Unlike when you learned to ride. So if a system allows a rider to concentrate on other things than his (or her) tyres it MAY have a safety benefit.

 

[Paul Wakefield]

Deep down though, seriously, don't you harbour any slight worry that 'idiot proof' systems might ultimately make idiots out of the riders?

Errr, no. That would only apply if the riders were already idiots. I'm not convinced there is such a thing as an idiot proof system anyway. The TPS should be treated as a useful tool but it does not (and is not meant to) supplant engaging senses and/or brain. No different to any other instrument really*.

* actually instrument rated pilots might disagree.

 

[kennyc]

slightly off topic, but I was in a wheel and tyre shop a couple of weeks ago, getting a set of alloys for the Missus's car (damn potholes!) there was a guy there being told that the TPS's on his car were all buggered! corrosion had set in and the threads had stripped rather than undone, so it might be worth a bit of coppaslip next time any of you with TPS have the tyre changed, the car was 3-4 years old and the units were around £100 a piece!

 

[Ex-Call Centre Chimp]

Deep down though, seriously, don't you harbour any slight worry that 'idiot proof' systems might ultimately make idiots out of the riders?

I'm offended by that statement. I'll have you know it doesn't take any system on a motorbike, or indeed anything else, for me to be an idiot. The very notion!