Tyres

[Giles]

Hi,

A few mentions here of Tourance EXPs squaring off badly whilst others don't. If you ride predominantly on motorways and long straightish roads your tyres will square off. I don't think it matters what make of tyre you have it just happens because of the type of riding you do - surely?

john1215

But as you say most modern tyres are good. I use Anakees do not go off road and get 10000miles from the rear tyre.

Now just tell me how slow I must be to achieve these mileages

Previously I had Bridgestone BT?? 3000 Miles shagged out same riding style same bike. No appreciable difference in Wet or Dry

The biggest killer to a tyre is heat. So for example, touring at 70mph on a motorway or 100mph will make a huge difference to its life. So one rider will report back 4,000 miles, and another 8,000. (I know that's a flipping obvious statement, but think heat ... that's what wears a tyre down quickly).

So likewise, if you're a cornering demon and like nothing better than scraping yer pegs on the way in and trying to wheelie yer bike on the way out, even if you call it a day at 70mph, you're still getting the tyre hot, and it will wear quicker. Lights go green ... pin it in first second third and then chill out, = heat = wear. Touring holiday with her indoors and all yer luggage over the back wheel but never go faster than 90? same again .. heat = wear.

So yeah, definitely down to riding style.

 

[littleredrooster]

Hi,

A few mentions here of Tourance EXPs squaring off badly whilst others don't. If you ride predominantly on motorways and long straightish roads your tyres will square off. I don't think it matters what make of tyre you have it just happens because of the type of riding you do - surely?

john1215

Erm...no. The majority of miles on my current set of TrailAttacks have been on French autoroutes - bolt upright and fully loaded. They have not squared off at all.

Under identical use (or as near as possible) Tourances would have a definite square edge by now and would feel quite horrible when tipping into corners. Big, big difference between the makes, IME.

EXPs are even worse, going square and useless in <3000 miles.

 

[Giles]

I've had a set of EXP's and have to admit, whilst I thought they were a cracking tyre for grip, they were just too soft. I think I got about three and a half K out the back before it was shot.
My bike's my toy, I don't commute on it so I'm quite happy to put my money on tyre performance as opposed to tyre life. But yes - the EXP's did wear far too quickly. Nice and grippy though ..

 

[Bounce]

I've used Conti trail attacks and found them to be an excellent performing tyre (wet & dry), and have a slow wear rate...fine on the green lanes too.

I put a set of Heidenau K60 scouts on for my recent trip to Spain/Morocco, and they were superb in both wet & dry, on & off road...you get a rumble up to & down from 20mph, but that's to be expected with the tyre construction, and after 3700 miles, they've barely worn.

I'll have no hesitation in getting another set of Heidenau's when I need new rubber....

 

[swissrob]

And there's summit I've never understood - why fit pseudo off road tyres if you never go off road

Best off road/road tyre I've used is the Heidi K60 mud&snow.

Best road only tyre I've used is the Avon Azaro/ST combo, I'm on my 3rd set now. I suspect Roadsmarts/PR's may be slightly better but I love the Avons, they suit my ride perfectly so see no reason to change

Andres

my mate recently fitted a k60 - its was shite off road on anything other than a gravel track ( where a road tyres would have done just as well) and became a solid slick after a few metres of soft earth - it wasnt even mud at that point.

 

[CuzGS]

Go for the solution, Anakee 2

I've used Anakee2 and Tourance non exp and I can't tell the difference.

I have to say that I don't buy the opinion that the tyres make a mega difference on this type of bike (assuming were talking like for like e.g. Anakee v Tourance)

Buy the ones that you can get a deal on or your favourite tread pattern

Having said that I do ride like a Kansas City Faggot so Wtf do I know

Oh I'm getting Anakee 2s next week 201 fitted, top deal

 

[IJGser]

Go for the solution, Anakee 2

I've used Anakee2 and Tourance non exp and I can't tell the difference.

I have to say that I don't buy the opinion that the tyres make a mega difference on this type of bike (assuming were talking like for like e.g. Anakee v Tourance)

Buy the ones that you can get a deal on or your favourite tread pattern

Having said that I do ride like a Kansas City Faggot so Wtf do I know

Oh I'm getting Anakee 2s next week 201 fitted, top deal

I second that anakee defo better in the wet.

 

[richie]

Go for the solution, Anakee 2

I've used Anakee2 and Tourance non exp and I can't tell the difference.

I have to say that I don't buy the opinion that the tyres make a mega difference on this type of bike (assuming were talking like for like e.g. Anakee v Tourance)

Buy the ones that you can get a deal on or your favourite tread pattern

Having said that I do ride like a Kansas City Faggot so Wtf do I know

Oh I'm getting Anakee 2s next week 201 fitted, top deal

Anywhere in Essex where I can get a similar deal next Friday 1/6/2012?

 

[Wapping]

CuzGS is right on two counts.

Buy some tyres. Wear them out. If you like them, buy some more. If you don't, buy some different ones. Then discover that you like the second ones less than the first ones (for some reason or another) so go back to the first ones, or try some other ones*.

Yup, he rides like a Kansas City Faggot




*Most bikes will not do over 6,000 mikes a year.... so you may well be doing this operation just once a year, at most. It's trickier choosing underpants.

 

[Rusty Bolts]

The biggest killer to a tyre is heat. So for example, touring at 70mph on a motorway or 100mph will make a huge difference to its life. So one rider will report back 4,000 miles, and another 8,000. (I know that's a flipping obvious statement, but think heat ... that's what wears a tyre down quickly).

So likewise, if you're a cornering demon and like nothing better than scraping yer pegs on the way in and trying to wheelie yer bike on the way out, even if you call it a day at 70mph, you're still getting the tyre hot, and it will wear quicker. Lights go green ... pin it in first second third and then chill out, = heat = wear. Touring holiday with her indoors and all yer luggage over the back wheel but never go faster than 90? same again .. heat = wear.

So yeah, definitely down to riding style.

Does heat play a part all this?

 

[Giles]

Ohhhhh yes ....

Let me explain .........

 

[Mr Pastry]

I was told that using fully synthetic engine oil makes the tyres last longer.

Could that be right?

P

 

[Giles]

Correct. Smear it all over the tyres .....

 

[CuzGS]

Depends what sort of oil, anyone have an idea

 

[Rusty Bolts]

A warm type. Perhaps frying oil

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

my mate recently fitted a k60 - its was shite off road on anything other than a gravel track ( where a road tyres would have done just as well) and became a solid slick after a few metres of soft earth - it wasnt even mud at that point.

I'm surprised, I've found them really useful on both Peak District lanes (mud/rock) and in Maroc (sand/gravel)

If you check out reviews on this site everybody really rates them

Mind you, they ain't much good in very wet sand

Andres

 

[Giles]

Muffs in Morocco And crutches

 

[Sgt Bilco]

Muffs in Morocco And crutches

You've obviously never ridden down through Spain in January

 

[Giles]

True, I tend to save my biking trips for the spring / autumn.

 

[swissrob]

I'm surprised, I've found them really useful on both Peak District lanes (mud/rock) and in Maroc (sand/gravel)

If you check out reviews on this site everybody really rates them

Mind you, they ain't much good in very wet sand

Andres

YEP that surprised us also - meant to be good but didnt prove to be the case.