U Tag - I.C.E.

[Dainese Brave]

Who the hells bought one then?

......err me!

I got one at the NEC....thought it looked a good idea...I never took it to be the answer to everything but thought it might help in some circumstances.......I never really expected the ambulance/medic to use it, but for use at the hospital to gain information and details......

.......now I gather it's not really very worthwhile if the hospitals won't even use it for fear of corrupting their system.

Shame, cos it seemed a good idea.....maybe this is an opportunity someone to produce a card based sytem with photo and information?

So where do you get a good quality set of dog tags engraved with your details?? (UK GS'er logo a great idea!)

 

[Dainese Brave]

no quite true
we can use encripted usbs for data transfer at work
It would not stop us accessing usb data stick such as the ICE, I have one, and for my sins work in the emergency area of our hospital

we always would use info from such devices

.....at last!......maybe it's not £20 down the pan after all!!!

 

[digga]

I've already made one in sterling silver with a 9ct gold UKGSer logo on it, I made it a few years back when this topic raised its head previously, everybody started saying how they could buy them on ebay for 2p so I never bothered contacting Paul at the time it seemed people wanted cheap not quality. I get £20-30 for brass dog tags (for dogs) so I never feel the need to fek around for next to nothing.

Shep

They must be Celebrity Dogs

Talk about pampered pooches

 

[Shep]

They must be Celebrity Dogs

Talk about pampered pooches

Tag for life stuff, heavy duty solid brass, engraved deeply not just scratched on the surface, 2 or three holes so you can rotate them to spread any wear. Made to a shape that that suits your or my fancy. No celebware just a product that many dog owners appreciate. I do alot for working dogs, due to the toughness of the disc the farmers/shepherds love them

They often take 2-3 hrs to make so i'm not ripping anybody off at £30 although I have sold them for £70-£100 for sterling silver tags and even did a 9ct gold one £200-£300 for a lottery winner, that was in the shape of a Ferrari logo the woman had bought her husband a dog and a Ferrari for his birthday Nice dog as well

Or you could pay £7.50 for a thin bit of stamped ally that last a few months, there is always a choice

Shep

 

[Urban Rider]

Wondered how long it'd be before you posted here

Reckon you should have a word with Paul...........ukgser merchandise............ukgser logo on one side and personal info on t'other

Andres

I'd buy one Shep...

 

[Dainese Brave]

I'd buy one Shep...

Me too

 

[EasySushi]

I'd buy one Shep...

Now why don't that surprise me.


Bear Cub





Ty

 

[Trippy]

So its a crap product that is a waste of time buying.

Yes


If you really think it matters that much ...

I always wear army metal dogtags engraved with my personal details as well as two emergency contactee details when I`m out

Other than that, as suggested 1st two places they look are wallet and mobile for Dad etc.

 

[STUBBS]

whilst in the a+e just before christmas i asked the triarge(?) nurse would they check this and she said no after i had to explain what it was seh said the best details to be recorded are name, nok contact details and doctors number

 

[Ben the Bike]

I read all of the above with interest as I've been wearing one of these things for a while! I thought I'd ask utag for their opinion......they say

The NHS is sensitive to the risk of viruses from USB devices and it is something we are continuing to work on. In the worst case scenario the ambulance would find the UTAG and have it available for use on arrival at the hospital but hopefully we can persuade the ambulance service that if they have an unconscious patient who they nothing about, it is in their interest to use the information the patient is making available to them. To me it is clear that the information should be used but I do accept that the ambulance service has concerns beside patient welfare that they need to consider.

I would also quote from the Department of Health IT security policy which clearly stipulates that they anticipate the use of usb devices and insist that virus protection is kept at a very high level. Clearly therefore there should be no problem within the NHS regarding the use of UTAG. There are other companies that have used usb devices to present patient medical information before so, although UTAG is the first that specifically aims at the “emergency sector”, the use of external usb devices to convey medical information to the NHS is not new and the proper procedures within the NHS are in place.


What we do have to do is make sure that as many people within the NHS are aware of UTAG and the benefit it can be. If there was to be a problem it would be through ignorance of what UTAG is rather than from a specific policy. We have an on going program of contacting A&E hospitals with literature regarding UTAG. We have also advertised UTAG for several months in “Emergency Nurse” magazine which is read by the majority of A&E nurses and we have had a good response from this advert with most asking for further information and posters. We have not had one negative comment or any feedback indicating that UTAG would not be used.


The NHS is a huge organisation and getting the UTAG message out is a task. However, we can approach the NHS now from the point of view that UTAG is being a great success with thousands already being sold and that interest is high.

We must also remember that the police are an emergency service and they have been very positive about UTAG. The police are often given the task of identifying crash victims and they know the difficulties they can have. They are therefore very keen to promote UTAG and some forces have even bought UTAG’s for their own motorcycle police. Many traffic police cars carry laptops and they have given no negative feedback about using UTAG.


UTAG is new to the market and like all new innovations there can be resistance to change but we are working to overcome this. The basic idea behind UTAG is sound and many people are seeing the advantages so our task is to continue to promote the benefits of UTAG to the NHS.


If you have any further questions about UTAG please let me know and I will do my best to answer them

Sophie
UTAG

Back to the floor???

 

[EasySushi]

I have purchased one of these not necessarily to be used in this country but to be used abroad.

If you have a bad accident in the UK all you medical information is accessible to any NHS health worker working in the NHS, because of the new computer system the NHS implemented called the NHS spine. The NHS spine is a central database which stores all patient information they can retrieve test results, x-ray, operations etc.

I for one thing the U Tag is a good idea, all it takes is a computer with a USB port to be able to access the information on the TAG, that computer does not need to be connected to a network does not need a CDROM/DVD or and other media access so the virus aspect is null and void. Infact you could view the information on a handheld

Ty

 

[Dainese Brave]

I think that's a very good response from U-Tag, and cleared up a few uncertainties about their use.

....and although it is obviously in their interests to say all those things, reading it gives me personally a sense of someone trying to get a genuine good idea to work in the environment it is designed for, not someone dishing out buit!

I think the thing with U-Tag is that it has to be something that the medical services are aware of, and trusted by....once that is in place I certainly think it has great benefits in using it.

Also it ought to be mentioned that U-Tag do a credit card style USB device that will fit in the wallet (the first point of access for information in most cases)

The only improvement I can suggest to the product is to be able to up-load a picture to the devices for positive i.d of the casualty.

Overall I think it’s a good product with merits that just needs to be recognised, and universally accepted, by the medical services.

 

[original_concept]

<cough> Soooo, how about an ID Card thingy with all your personal info on instead????

I'm sure that idea has been mooted recently.

 

[EasySushi]

I think that's a very good response from U-Tag, and cleared up a few uncertainties about their use.

....and although it is obviously in their interests to say all those things, reading it gives me personally a sense of someone trying to get a genuine good idea to work in the environment it is designed for, not someone dishing out buit!

I think the thing with U-Tag is that it has to be something that the medical services are aware of, and trusted by....once that is in place I certainly think it has great benefits in using it.

Also it ought to be mentioned that U-Tag do a credit card style USB device that will fit in the wallet (the first point of access for information in most cases)

The only improvement I can suggest to the product is to be able to up-load a picture to the devices for positive i.d of the casualty.

Overall I think it’s a good product with merits that just needs to be recognised, and universally accepted, by the medical services.

You can already upload a picture I just recived mine and have inputed all information including picture

 

[BAKERMAN]

3 I.C.E numbers in my Phone

1. HOME
2.SHOP
3.HELPFULL FREIND

 

[elevensies]

Sheps idea is far better IMHO, but whatever you do, maybe its better to something, rather than nothing.

Again, in my profession its worthless, but a visual aid is vital, hence my approval of a dog tag or card.

What amazes me about UTAG's comments however, is that they state, they need to make NHS etc aware of the product, i would have asked them first before putting it to the market place, to see if its ok with them, after all its them who would be needing the info from it.

Regarding usage abroad, exactly the same procedure as here in most countries, and i guess if you were needing the UTAG in say middle india, well maybe not eh? who knows where it could be inserted

just my 5p worth (due to inflation my 2p worth has gone up)

 

[thefurry1]

ice tag

hi, i use the ice tag,and when u have put ur details on it the medical staff r the people who us it , not joe blog's off the street , u can also put ur picture on it as well, only the user can edit the information on it, if u carnt speak 4 ur self it save's time that could save ur life, if u r kill, then they got a picture to tie up with the meat on the slab!.rob.

 

[elevensies]

Mr furry1, you say you use the UTAG, so does that mean you have used it, or you just have one, as there is a big difference.
If you have needed the emergency services, and they used it, give us a bit more info, as im interested to know, as some here are too.

And what exactly do you mean, ''if you are kill?'' A killer perhaps?

And if you think that upon the mortuary slab, the morticians will look at a photo of you on your UTAG to determine its you whom they have, then think again, unless your part of a crime scene, where anything you have on you is taken as evidence.

 

[Berin]

nd dnt spk n txt lngwg

cos no-one here knows what the feck you're on about. Type properly

hi, i use the ice tag,and when u have put ur details on it the medical staff r the people who us it , not joe blog's off the street , u can also put ur picture on it as well, only the user can edit the information on it, if u carnt speak 4 ur self it save's time that could save ur life, if u r kill, then they got a picture to tie up with the meat on the slab!.rob.

 

[elevensies]

what i was thinking as well, he must have needed some help i think






or your a 12 year old girl aspiring to get that ho*da melody when your 16