I asked Ash about that. The scooter’s range is about 100 miles, so it’s handy to have the can aboard.
UKGSer’s Wobble Box Weekender - October 2026
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Back home safely after a smooth uneventful cruise home. Thanks Richard for organising an enjoyable weekend, great to meet up with people and enjoy drinking, good food and great company.
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Quicker than the way up.
Then there was one.
But wait…. A visitor….
Forum regular G&T dropped by to say, “Hello”, which was nice.
But wait…. A visitor….
Forum regular G&T dropped by to say, “Hello”, which was nice.
Great to meet up with a few regulars.
Two observations: One, there was a lady on site with a pleated tartan skirt, wellies and that sexy just had a roll around in the barn look....I think I’m in there.
And two, having seen Ash’s van with a scooter hanging off the back...Wapping’s goventure multitool truck could easily take a bike, jet ski, dune buggy...you get the picture.
Nice to meet you all. Thanks for the cuppa @Wapping
G&T & D’WFR
Two observations: One, there was a lady on site with a pleated tartan skirt, wellies and that sexy just had a roll around in the barn look....I think I’m in there.
And two, having seen Ash’s van with a scooter hanging off the back...Wapping’s goventure multitool truck could easily take a bike, jet ski, dune buggy...you get the picture.
Nice to meet you all. Thanks for the cuppa @Wapping
G&T & D’WFR
Thank you all for coming along. It was fun meeting up, everyone getting along and having a good time. My particular thanks to Team Pukmeister for an excellent taxi service on Saturday and an entertaining visit to Bridgnorth, much appreciated.
As agreed, let’s do something again next year, God willing. I’ll create a hold-the-date thread.
As agreed, let’s do something again next year, God willing. I’ll create a hold-the-date thread.
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Thanks Richard, have a safe journey home tomorrow.
It’s an oddity of the vehicle that it’s not actually as big as it looks.
There were, just in this one site, larger vehicles, including one that I missed taking a picture of:
What I think might distort the impression of size is:
A. Its height. That said lots of motorhomes with an over cab sleeping cab might well get near the three metre mark, even with a lowered chassis.
B. That it’s dark grey / black, which I guess amplifies its perceived bulk.
Inside it is smaller than many conventional motorhomes, not least (in comparison with my former Bailey *) as it’s lost a metre off the length and half a metre off the width.
* The oddity there is that a lot of bods remarked how much larger the Bailey was inside. More space, in other words, than they had expected. That was down to some actually quite good layout design by Bailey in 2016 for their new vehicle. It was fine when there was two or three of us in the vehicle, but solo it was just wasted.
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It was interesting to hear those that came to the Wobbly Box event, commenting on the high cost of new VW camper vans. As they said, it comes to a tipping point, when a proper motorhome or larger camper van can, arguably, become ‘better value’.
Our LWB VW van works perfectly for us as it gives us access to everything a car has access to. It can be a daily drive too, with no real restrictions.
I agree the prices of VW campers are high, but they hold onto that price.
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Indeed 
Personaly I think a caravan and decent vehicle make the best sense of all for most situations. But my wife spent her younger years holidaying in a caravan and I don’t wish to tow anything larger than a pea.
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I have never holidayed in a caravan nor towed one. That aside, it makes no odds what vehicle one chooses, not least as they are all a compromise of some sort. The important thing is simply to have a good time, no matter where or how.
You can’t wild camp with a caravan. You’d have big problems taking a caravan to most of the places I like to go. Very little room to turn round. Plus if you find somewhere nice to stay you can’t. You always have to stay on a site.
Don’t get me wrong, I do like caravans, I’ve had 3 in the past plus 3 folding campers. I won’t have another though.
I’m up on Hay Bluff tonight.
3 camper vans here.
Not a clue where I’ll be tomorrow night yet!
Leave no trace.
Don’t get me wrong, I do like caravans, I’ve had 3 in the past plus 3 folding campers. I won’t have another though.
I’m up on Hay Bluff tonight.
3 camper vans here.
Not a clue where I’ll be tomorrow night yet!
Leave no trace.
Two points:
1. I thought black/grey was supposed to hide your size...like Dawn French in Dunkin Donuts.
2. I’m glad I didn’t bring Sally, who’d have felt hard done to in our 1.5 man mountain tent.
‘‘Twas a lovely Van.
1. I thought black/grey was supposed to hide your size...like Dawn French in Dunkin Donuts.
2. I’m glad I didn’t bring Sally, who’d have felt hard done to in our 1.5 man mountain tent.
‘‘Twas a lovely Van.
Adv Caravans are availableYou can’t wild camp with a caravan. You’d have big problems taking a caravan to most of the places I like to go. Very little room to turn round. Plus if you find somewhere nice to stay you can’t. You always have to stay on a site.
Don’t get me wrong, I do like caravans, I’ve had 3 in the past plus 3 folding campers. I won’t have another though.
I’m up on Hay Bluff tonight.
3 camper vans here.
Not a clue where I’ll be tomorrow night yet!
Leave no trace.
Popular in the Oz bush
I built my own T5 camper from a base vehicle during Covid and enjoyed using it, then the wife later decided she wanted better home comforts and we bought our caravan.
I kept the T5 for myself so I can attend solo events or places where access may be awkward compared to towing a 7.3 metre caravan.
The beauty of a caravan besides space and comfort is having a vehicle to use once on site without having to result to drive-away awnings etc. The alde wet central heating also came in handy last weekend to keep the autumn chill at bay. The T5 has an eberspacher under floor hot air diesel heater but I prefer not to use it as its a little noisy.
The disadvantage of a caravan besides the towing limitations is the faff for about an hour getting it set up on site on arrival but its a well-oiled routine now. Don't get me started on "divorce awnings".
I kept the T5 for myself so I can attend solo events or places where access may be awkward compared to towing a 7.3 metre caravan.
The beauty of a caravan besides space and comfort is having a vehicle to use once on site without having to result to drive-away awnings etc. The alde wet central heating also came in handy last weekend to keep the autumn chill at bay. The T5 has an eberspacher under floor hot air diesel heater but I prefer not to use it as its a little noisy.
The disadvantage of a caravan besides the towing limitations is the faff for about an hour getting it set up on site on arrival but its a well-oiled routine now. Don't get me started on "divorce awnings".
It’s funny what you learn as you go along. For years, I have been a fan of the slatted aluminium tables, like these:
Which pack up pretty small. It seems fun when you arrive, putting them together. But less ‘fun’, when it’s time to pack up, especially if you are moving on each day. For the last trips I have made, I have been using tables like these instead, with a solid fixed top and folding legs:
Slightly more bulky but of a not dissimilar weight. Very much quicker to use and pack-up. They were £9 each in Morrisons at the start of the summer, so worth a punt.
Then of course you get into the whole awning / no awning. Mat under the awning / no mat under the awning. Bring a BBQ / don’t bring a BBQ. Bring a bicycle / don’t bring a bicycle. Bring a scooter / don’t bring a scooter. Level the vehicle (and how) against ‘Don’t bother’. Cater for guests vs don’t cater for guests, debate. It all, no matter what you decide on, takes time.
Once set up, say at a weekend’s racing, I like to not put my BBQ kit away each time I use it. Do I then hide it away from prying eyes with a plastic opaque sheet? Yes and it takes time, no and it doesn’t. I don’t have a built in over / microwave, so a BBQ is all but essential…. But then, do I use the vehicle’s gas bottle or a separate patio bottle? If the former, just plug the BBQ in. If the latter, it maybe gives a bit more flexibility, but you then have to put the patio gas bottle away at the end.
Of course, like touring on a motorcycle, you learn as you go along and get better (ie. quicker) at it all. I guess it’s part of the fun. I like guests to visit and share my vehicle, so maybe I bring more than some. But, as with packing panniers on a motorcycle, I try to make the kit trip specific, not bringing it all if I am on my own…. This saves, weight, space and (above all) time.
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1. We aren’t in the outback!
2. They are ridiculously expensive to buy anyway
3. They still AREN’T allowed at wild camp stopovers. There are normally signs stating that at these places.
4. On apps like Park4night it also states this.
5. I have no idea why the font has gone slanty!
6. Sorted it.
Big fingers strike again.