urgent help which camcorder???

[WOODY]

Left it a bit late but need to get a digi camcorder (tape) this weekend, with AV in for a bullet cam. Anyone reccomend one for around £300 ish
Cheers....Loz.

 

[Dahoum]

Here you go WOODY - this'll suit your blond moments.

No need for memory cards

Just turn the handle

 

[WOODY]

Here you go WOODY - this'll suit your blond moments.

No need for memory cards

Just turn the handle

Cheers mate ing big help you are

 

[WOODY]

Left it a bit late but need to get a digi camcorder (tape) this weekend, with AV in for a bullet cam. Anyone reccomend one for around £300 ish
Cheers....Loz.

Confused as to the firewire connection ? a canon Canon MV830i I looked at says.

Firewire in (IEEE 1394) Yes
Firewire out (IEEE 1394) Yes

does this mean it will take AV in? wheres steptoe when you need him

 

[Greg Masters]

Confused as to the firewire connection ? a canon Canon MV830i I looked at says.

Firewire in (IEEE 1394) Yes
Firewire out (IEEE 1394) Yes

does this mean it will take AV in? wheres steptoe when you need him

I think the answer to that is 'Yes'.

Have a look at the JVC DR-G53 - I think that'll do what you want. About £275.

Greg

 

[Fanum]

I think the answer to that is 'Yes'.

Have a look at the JVC DR-G53 - I think that'll do what you want. About £275.

Greg

Er, I think the answer is 'No' meself


AV stands for analogue Video, which is the opposite of DV (digital video) in terms of type of input.

Analogue is wave form technology whereas digital is obviously binary, 0's and 1's.......

A firewire (IEEE 1394) is a pure digital input/output , so it stores or sends the images digitally and uncompressed, so you get the best image quality possible.

Many Digital camcorders do have AV ports though, which means you can record from am analogue source- if you also have a firewire connectionon the camera, you can then downlaod this picture to a digital source (ie a PC) for editing or storage in it's purest form.

AV inputs vary and range from the three plugs you get on the front of a lot of TV's and videos (yellow, white and red) to plugs that look like stereo jacks.

The best of both worlds is to have a diogital cancorder with DV inputs and outputs , as well as an Analogue input (which is what you get from a vhs machine or a bullet camera)

 

[Fanum]

Er actually, that camera does do both....but the bit Woody quoted wasn't the indicator of it

• DV Input/Output (i.LINK, IEEE1394 compliant)
• Analogue Input

That's the relevant bit

 

[Greg Masters]

Er, I think the answer is 'No' meself


AV stands for analogue Video, which is the opposite of DV ....

I think that you're right, Bill, the answer is 'No'.

But according to this link AV stands for Audio and Video. I give up!!

Anyway, the JVC seems to do everything.

Greg

 

[Bateman]

I think a bullet cam needs a line in connection. I have a pretty good Samsung Dv camcorder with the various av connections, but no Line In socket so Maplins said it wouldn't accept a Bullet Cam.

 

[Fanum]

I may well be totally wrong but surely you can convert the plug/socket types with various connectors from somewhere like Maplins?

It's the signal you're after, the method of transfer can be adjusted by the hardware adaptors.

 

[Deleted account 220427002]

I may well be totally wrong but surely you can convert the plug/socket types with various connectors from somewhere like Maplins?

It's the signal you're after, the method of transfer can be adjusted by the hardware adaptors.

i could be wrong (Steptoe will say if i am)but i wouldn't think you could convert from line in (composite) to firewire..not without a lot of problems....composite to s-video or the other way round is possible

 

[Fanum]

i could be wrong (Steptoe will say if i am)but i wouldn't think you could convert from line in (composite) to firewire..not without a lot of problems....composite to s-video or the other way round is possible

I wasn't suggesting for a second that you could.....you'd need an analogue to digital converter for one thing....

I was saying that regardless of what type of AV input, as long as you have an analogue signal, you should be able to change the plug type by hardware converter so you can get the signal in to the cam if it has an AV port.

 

[Dahoum]

'kin ell WOODSTER - I recon you've got the best answer from me

 

[ianf]

I believe a lot of the issues around the fact that some camcorders can record from a signal rather than the CCD is down to the fact that they then get classed as Video Recorders for import duty/quotas. Cheaper if they leave out the recording bit, or cripple it in firmware, giving you a model number without the .i. in Canon's range for example.

google uk.rec.motorcycles, i think this came up in the past and was discussed at length.

If it's got dv-in there's a fair chance it will also support recording of an analogue signal too, but ask the retailer specifically on this. The bullet cam will be yer yellow phono composite lead and there should be an appropriate lead supplied with the camcorder to plug that in.

 

[WOODY]

'kin ell WOODSTER - I recon you've got the best answer from me

Is there a smiley with shit loads of info flying over it's head

Thanks greg n Bill... decided on the Cannon cos Bill sez its ok..... Sadly ken I wont be going for the brownie shove it back up

 

[Deleted account 220427002]

E buyer had a cheap canon...about £200 half price i think...argos too have some at cheap prices at the mo

 

[Deleted account 220427002]

http://www.savastore.com/productinf...me=Savastore&product_id=10276308&pid=45&tid=3

i don't know if it has video in or not.

here's another thing... just because a camera has phonos on it for video doesn't mean that it records in...it may only play out on them....it's a bit obvious but you might not think of it when you go to buy

 

[WOODY]

I believe a lot of the issues around the fact that some camcorders can record from a signal rather than the CCD is down to the fact that they then get classed as Video Recorders for import duty/quotas. Cheaper if they leave out the recording bit, or cripple it in firmware, giving you a model number without the .i. in Canon's range for example.

google uk.rec.motorcycles, i think this came up in the past and was discussed at length.

If it's got dv-in there's a fair chance it will also support recording of an analogue signal too, but ask the retailer specifically on this. The bullet cam will be yer yellow phono composite lead and there should be an appropriate lead supplied with the camcorder to plug that in.

Thanks Ian and tuned...Im sorted now, the Canon is on order tomorrow it works fine with bullet cam

 

[riverking]

Woody, I have a Canon ZR DV Camcorder which I bought in the states back in the 20th century, it takes filums, (mini dv), puts em on yer telly, plays em on yer stereo, an talks to the computitor, and has dv in/out, multiconnector and AV in/out. If the ends of the lead match the hole in the camera it works jus fine & has done for 6 years. It worked perfectly up until tonight and probably still does, but having read this thread I no longer understand it.

 

[WOODY]

Woody, I have a Canon ZR DV Camcorder which I bought in the states back in the 20th century, it takes filums, (mini dv), puts em on yer telly, plays em on yer stereo, an talks to the computitor, and has dv in/out, multiconnector and AV in/out. If the ends of the lead match the hole in the camera it works jus fine & has done for 6 years. It worked perfectly up until tonight and probably still does, but having read this thread I no longer understand it.