V85TT reflections after 4000 miles

wessie

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I have ridden over 3000 miles on the V85 since it had the first service on 6 May. Most of those in Spain on the Figure of 8 reported elsewhere. Update as requested by @gren_t

The bike and I seem to be getting on well. Nothing has broken on the bike and it has used no oil in that time. It coped better with the 40C heatwave in Spain better than I did. Yes, it gets hot but it is not as unpleasant as I had worried about, having had horrible experiences with a Triumph explorer and a S1000XR in very hot conditions. It seems remarkably fuel efficient, aided by my very relaxed touring through the mountains gawping at the views and circumnavigating the bovine, equine and cervine chicanes. Over 60mpg reported. The 23 litre tank defaults to 255 miles after a fill up but that number usually creeps up for a while unless you give it some serious stick.
OE tyres have had to cope with a wide temperature variation, from 7C in the first few mornings in Cantabria to 40C as I rode towards Cordoba. I have also had a few storms to ride through and wet grip seems okay. 4 days (2 in UK, 2 in Spain when unwell with a cold) on motorways have not squared them off. Plenty of tread left on the Dunlop Trailmax Meridian to give them a recommendation. Tyre pressures have remained fine so the tubeless & spoked wheels work well.
Luggage: it works and has been waterproof. I like that you have a keyed lock and the back-up of the sprung loaded clamps that force the clamshell together to make the watertight seal. They small one over the exhaust is big enough to take my CPAP bag with space for spare gloves and I put some soiled clothing in there on the way back. The larger one will take my Neotec 2 helmet, or on this trip, a 35 Litre bag full of spare clothes, puncture kit, jump starter, tyre pump, tools etc. Also a bit of space for more gloves. There only seems to be a small gap between the small pannier and the exhaust but this must be adequate as nothing melted.
Screen: works well at most speeds, although it seems to set up a weird harmonic at around 50mph that my helmet picks up, so I try to avoid that small speed range where it happens. Otherwise fairly quiet at other speeds until you get to 70mph when the noise increases, which seems to be from around the sides of the screen not the top as a Puig deflector on top made little difference. The air seems to hit my chest and then cause turbulence at the base of my helmet leading to the noise.
Engine: it is lovely as you would hope from a v twin. On the way home I rode with a little more urgency to get as many miles done as it was not raining. I left the M5 at Gloucester and rode up to Welshpool on familiar A and B roads. It really likes to hustle along, although overtakes need a little more planning compared to the R1200RS with 125bhp on tap. It makes some nice noises as the revs rise. No oil used.
Handling: with wide bars and forgiving suspension it is an easy bike to ride. It seems to stick to a line and does not get it knickers in a twist of the road is bumpy, Rather a good thing considering the state of the roads in the Burgos district and Andalusia. I was so glad to get back to Cantabria for the last few days. I'm starting to relearn using the rear brake more (last 4 bikes had linked brakes). Especially on tight, downhill hairpins, using the rear brake makes steering a lot easier as you reduce the load on the relatively soft forks.
Comfort: overall very happy. I changed bikes as the RS crouch made my right hip hurt after an hour. I was no longer enjoying riding. No such problem on the V85. The seat is fine for quite some time. I start to shift about at 150 miles and by 200 my arse aches. At 250 I am really glad to get off. Fortunately, I had few days of this length on the trip. The bike does get very warm as you would expect of an air/oil cooled bike especially when you are over 30C. With feet on pegs, you do not get too much directed at you. What I did notice is dropping your feet off the pegs to stretch a bit means your ankles are then getting blasted with hot air from the exhaust. It's a habit I developed to cope with the hip pain, I must try to stop doing it now! I have a universal, mesh seat pad I might try as I used on the RS.
Fuel: in the UK it gets 95E10 from wherever. Often Tesco but sometimes one of the mostly Texaco stations we have around here in villages. In Spain I only saw E5 in 95 or 98 octane flavours. I only used the 95 without worrying about the brand so it got Shell, Repsol and mostly brands you never heard of from the increasing number of discounters. I cannot say I have noticed any difference in performance between E10, E5 or any brand.
Accessories: I have added the Givi Monokey topbox plate and use my trusty E45 box, bought in 1996. Also a SW-Motech Pro Daypack Tank Bag. It's a nice bag but with the zip undone to expand it, the bag flops about a bit. Also added a Thunderbox power unit, connected to a switch live so it is on with the ignition, not just the engine running. This has a lead attached that gives me a 12V cig socket on the bars (a loose fly lead). I can use the socket to power my Zumo 390 (attached to the bars by a RAM U clamp) or my tyre pump (hence wanting it live with the ignition not engine).

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In the Sierra de Gredos at 30C with snow topped mountains on the horizon
 
I forgot to add the bit about the electrical stuff that comes with the bike, some of it only on the Travel model as standard:

ABS: I can confirm after the need for an emergency stop, it works on the front. Hence, as not mentioned, the Brembo brakes are adequate
Heated grips: a bit feeble compared to the RS. 3 settings, 1 imperceptible, 3 reasonably warm but not good enough for 5C or less without assistance from my bar muffs.
Heated seat OE on Travel model: also 3 settings, 1 is adequate, 3 might cause a burn. They are surprisingly effective especially if you get your jacket base sorted so the warm air rises up your back.
Colour telly: it's okay but I'm a bit of a luddite and like analogue clocks. I've got used to the layout and it has all of the info I like to see.
Switchgear: pretty much got used to using it without needing to look at anything. Needs some muscle training to use the cruise toggle without hitting the main beam switch.
Cruise control: works well although I wish it has the BMW style slider to activate the system i.e. always in standby unless manually turned off. With this system, you have to manually activate the system after each power on with the toggle switch, then select your speed with a second action. The +/- toggle works well and the system turns off smoothly whether triggering by over-closing the throttle, braking or changing gear.

Gear change: smooth, cable clutch works fine. Occasionally I forget I do not have a blipper down change now, leading to grabbing a gear a little too late! Only happened once in the last couple of weeks and that was riding home from Plymouth when I was in a more hurried mode.

Mirrors and vibrations: none to speak of and you get a good view. At certain revs, the satnav sitting on a RAM ball with extension judders a bit but not problematic.

Navigation, phone etc: the Travel version comes with the MIA thing. The bike talks to an app on your phone allowing control of phone & music. I have not tried this as I do not have a headset in my helmet. I have used the the navigation as a point to point system and it works now I have figured out its quirks. Runs the mapping on your phone in the MG app. It uses a version of Here maps and supposedly allows the import of a GPX. Not tried that yet but it is nice to have this as a backup should my historic Zumo 390 decide to retire.
The app supposedly lets you know when the next service is due but it does not interrogate the bike re. the last service. you have to tell the app you had a service, Pretty pointless. The licence for the maps lasts 3 years then you have to pay
 
Wessie
Have you tried the little additions to the front of the tank ( Mickey Mouse ears) that alter the air flow,
They stopped the buffeting on my v85tt. Not much money, and ten minutes to fit.
 
Wessie
Have you tried the little additions to the front of the tank ( Mickey Mouse ears) that alter the air flow,
They stopped the buffeting on my v85tt. Not much money, and ten minutes to fit.

the Travel job comes with some wind deflectors

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Wessie
Have you tried the little additions to the front of the tank ( Mickey Mouse ears) that alter the air flow,
They stopped the buffeting on my v85tt. Not much money, and ten minutes to fit.
Wessie has got the 2025 version which has a different front. I understood MG had either finally put the V85 in their famous wind tunnel or the design engineers won out over the marketeers and put out something that works.
 
Wessie has got the 2025 version which has a different front. I understood MG had either finally put the V85 in their famous wind tunnel or the design engineers won out over the marketeers and put out something that works.

they make a big song and dance about it in the link I gave above but it remains a work in progress. I can live with it but it would be nice if the bike matched the hype.
 
they make a big song and dance about it in the link I gave above but it remains a work in progress. I can live with it but it would be nice if the bike matched the hype.
My brother has a 2025 tt. Better than the previous model but not perfect. JJH
 
Navigation update: importing a GPX file is sub-optimal. It sees the start point and the first via point and ignores the rest of the route. I will only use it on local trips to get me to a specific address or as a back-up if my primary navigation (currently a Zumo 390) ceases to function.
 
they make a big song and dance about it in the link I gave above but it remains a work in progress. I can live with it but it would be nice if the bike matched the hype.
More or less since the day I got mine 6 years ago I’ve said the aerodynamics are poor and it’s a noisy buffetty bike. Moto Guzzi sent me (and a few thousand other owners I assume) a questionnaire back in 2020 about what I liked and disliked about the bike. I got feedback on the top issues identified which were if I remember correctly tube type wheels, noisy and snatchy. I think they’ve addressed them all now. I must go and have a look and a go on a new model. I saw on FB that someone had managed to make a bracket to fit 2025 winglets to an earlier bike. I don’t know how effective though.
 
I rode your old RS a few weeks back, not ridden one before great bike but you are right about the riding position I couldnt really get comfortable, great engine though
 
I rode your old RS a few weeks back, not ridden one before great bike but you are right about the riding position I couldnt really get comfortable, great engine though

It's odd that they still have the bike but have not listed it as stock. Service bod told me they want to tart it up before listing it but it's costing them money sitting there, ageing and depreciating in value.
 
thanks for taking the time to do the write up, very much appreciated. (y)
 


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