Visit to Holland

If you go through a distributor, you may well get a phone call from Baz anyway to ask about how you have your bike set up, especially if you go for the hydraulic preload adjuster

When I asked Baz if he sorts out the stuff imported to UK he said he has nothing to do with it. All the stuff comes from Hyperpro's head office.
Personally I would go direct to Baz (Oh yes, thats right I did!!) as he also has 15 years background at BMW before spending the last 8 years at Hyperpro.
 
Goddam this talk is making me want a hyperpro!!!

For you guys who got it through a distributor rather than in person with Bas - is there any difference in terms of valving, hose lengths etc?

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mhsnowy, magno, you mentioned how effortlessly and quickly the shocks were stripped and built - would you say it is possible to service Hyperpro's yourself?
What sort of special equipment was needed and what did he do about the high pressure nitrogen?

thanks!

He obviously makes it look effortless but he has the machine to bleed the air out and also re-gas with nitrogen. Not to mention the special tools to dismantle and reassemble.
 
Goddam this talk is making me want a hyperpro!!!

For you guys who got it through a distributor rather than in person with Bas - is there any difference in terms of valving, hose lengths etc?

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mhsnowy, magno, you mentioned how effortlessly and quickly the shocks were stripped and built - would you say it is possible to service Hyperpro's yourself?
What sort of special equipment was needed and what did he do about the high pressure nitrogen?

thanks!

You should go directly to Bas. If you don't you might not get the latest settings and the option to spec what hose length you want etc. I got mine from Calsport originally and sent it back to Bas because I wasn't happy with the settings. After he had adjusted it to suit my requirements the bike was transformed. This was 3/4 years ago now so things might have changed but simply not worth the chance.

As for servicing - I'm vaguely competent and built my bike for last years Mongolia/BAM trip (fairing mounts, HID lights and all wiring etc) and serviced it all en-route etc but I have just sent my shock back to Bas for a service. I just don't have the experience to re-build suspension and I don't want it to fail in the middle of the steppe. The majority of sick bikes in UB are rear suspension failures. IMO this is down to overloading the bikes, riding too hard and/or incorrect suspension setup. I think the Hyperpro stuff is of slightly better quality than Ohlins or similar but what makes it worth every penny on the XC is the literally hundreds of thousands of KM's of real world testing done and the knowledge gained from that.
 
As a follow up to my oil light problem, I have been given something to try from a German company called Team Pami Racing who race the rotax 650 engines.

He has said that the problem is the pressure relief valve that sits behind the oil filter and is accessible by removing the oil filter. Remove it and replace the rubber washer and apparently that will cure the problem.

I'll let you know just in case anybody else has a similar problem.

Did you get the required solution? Can't see this behind the filter on an F650, but interested to know
 
Can you guess. Where I am?
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By the skin of my teeth, No.
Made my return ferry last night with 2 mins until check in closed.

Really enjoyed my day with Bas, he has a thorough knowledge of the G series and is a nice bloke too!

Wish I had planed more time!
 
Did you get the front & rear done Ian?
Tell us all about it

Right, sorry for the delay but its been a busy summer.

Yes a had the whole lot reworked by Bas. He is a friendly and welcoming guy and it's well worth the visit.

Ok, so my bike although modified at both ends just didn't handle right and after seeing a thread about the possability that a preload adjuster could be retro fitted to my hyperpro i was motivated to make the arrangements for the visit.

I had a hyperpro rear shock that i got from a fellow tosser but dare I say in some ways it was worse than the air shock, at least the original could be pumped up to acomodate luggage. It turns out the seals had started to leak so this didn't help things also setting up preload, rebound fast & slow compression was beyond me!

After the rebound had failed in the original front forks I had sourced some Marzocchi shivers from a gas gas 450 and apart from a service and swapping the axle clamps they where stuck on the bike. Turns out they had more travel than the originals which actually wasn't helpful.

Basically the bike sagged at the rear lifted on the front and weaved under hard acceleration and at arround 65mph, oh and was worse with luggage. That said it was still a fun bike to use but I knew it could be better!

So off I went to Holland on the overnight ferry. I arrived at hyperpro 1 hour after disembarking and discussed the problems and the type of riding I planned to do with Bas.

Bas was convicted I didn't need the full or extra heigh and setting it up a bit lower would make it more manageable. Tbh he's correct the ground clearance on the Xch is beyond what is needed by most of us. Bas felt the weave (at speed) may remain as it could be due to aero dynamics. Interestingly the bike didn't weave at equivalent speeds when off road. Apparently this is because the suspension is being worked as apossed to being static.

What Bas did...............

Starting with the front;

New 'slippy' seals, apparently allowing the shock to move smoother. The travel was shortened and progressive springs fitted. Rejeted and a sutable oil used and finally rebound and compresion was set up to suit.

And the rear;

Seals replaced and unit regased, spring replaced (to suit my new ride height and weight) and preload ajuster fitted and finetuned to suit me.


The out come.............

I spent a few weeks trail riding in Spain fully loaded and absolutely loved having the preload adjuster!

Overall the results have been fantastic It felt firmer but once I had become customised to this it became apparent that the bike turns in and manages braking better. The front no longer lifts when pulling away and over all its road manner is much improved. The only negative is the bike still weaves at higher speeds. I did gain me a extra 10-15 mph cruising speed and think I am just going to except the weave and ride accordingly. Maybe a steering damper would make a difference?

I have used the bike off road on a good variety of surfaces and this is where the improvements really became apparent especially when crossing uneven rocks and when the shocks are being worked hard.

I cant recomend Bas highly enough and when you think the return ferry only cost £140 i know any future suspension fettling will be done by him!

Ian
 


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