What do you think would be the right sell my 2014 r1200gs TE for

As JohnnyBoxer said, have you ever had any advanced training? Just because you have been riding for many years and ride 'defensively' doesn't mean you are a safe rider.
Find a good school or contact your local RoSPA / Bikesafe group, and let them give you an unbiased opinion of your riding, and then put things right.
 
Sounds to me like you'd be miserable within a couple of months.
Everybody's experience is different, but being fearless on a R1 does not equate to being safe, more like lucky.
Advanced courses can benefit any rider of any experience. We all keep learning.
My advice, as previously suggested, would be to park it up for a month.
There's no reason why your girls can't grow up with a bike. My eldest is now 19 and she rides a 125.



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karlp said:
So what do you recon on then
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As said, check eBay, MCN and Bike Trader, then see what dealers are selling bikes with 1k miles on for.

Taking the VAT off isn't the benchmark in valuing a second hand bike.

A friend sold his LC to a BMW dealer, for cash (no trade-in) and sold for more than the net of VAT list price, and that had done a few thousand miles. It also depends what packs and accessories are fitted to the bike.
 
Just looked at your Ebay listing, In my own humble opinion you have it realistically priced to sell, if I were looking for one I'd certainly be going for it GLWS. On the other subject, you are right to go with what you feel at the moment, your family is more important than any boy's toy that can be replaced any time. Rider training is not the real issue, even trained riders get hurt.
 
tony23 said:
Ask yourself this, if you were driving a car and had several near misses would you sell it and walk / resort to public transport?
I know there is more risk involved in motorbikes but unfortunately its a bad world out there. I ride , like a lot of guys here, assuming that everyone's out to kill me and who know`s one day some numbnut might but in the meantime I get way too much pleasure from my bike and just accept the risk.
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Could not agree more!


In my super humble opinion I wouldn't sell the bike.

Starting with the admission that I should be the last one to talk cause I just had my first motorbike ever only 2 months ago, I really think its not a metter of having a riding training course and then you'll be sure nothing will happen to you!!!
If it has to happen, it happens even when you r riding a 50cc scooter and someone cuts the road a slams you on the ground!!!

of course the professional trainer will give you a lot of knowledge about how better and safer you can run YOUR BIKE! For this reason I ll take one ASAP!!! But It wont save you from idiots out there!!!

I've ridden a motorbike for two months in England (where people follow the rules) but I ve ridden scooter in ROME for 20 years (where people notoriously DO NOT respect the rules) and let me tell you this...driving defensively...saved me a big lot of s**t that could have happened to me!

So I really think you should not take the training course and then change your mind....but I think you should just change your mind, then if you want, take the 2 days training, and keep driving safe (call it defensively or as you like) and keep hoping (as everyone else on two wheels) that the crazy bastards out there stay away from all of us!!!

Ciao
 
Thanks again for all the replies. I have previously looked at advanced training for this very reason and it would definitely reduce the risk but as mentioned above wouldn't remove it. Some things you can't do anything about. I understand the car analogy but the risk is much lower in a car

My riding style has changed dramatically over the last couple of years. When I said I was fearless on the r1 it was just to indicate my state of mind rather than anything about my riding ability. Every time I got on the bike I knew the risks but didn't just wanted to ride and, I'm ashamed to say, it was often too fast. My girls came along and everything changed. Something just clicked in my head and the whole way I ride changed. I got the GS (this is my second) and that just improved my riding further.

I know with 100% certainty that if I sell the bike I'll regret it straight away. It's not something I really want to, do but I feel I should do, at least til the girls are older.

Maybe if it doesn't sell I'll reevaluate





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are you listening to yourself sir ?

you speak of "removing" the risk with riding.

what ?

are you serious ?

you bought a MOTORCYCLE to be used on PUBLIC ROADS and expect to be able to REMOVE the risk associated with RIDING it ?

are you serious man ?

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Sell it and take up Trials

Get your kicks offroad, your wife & kids can come & watch you and lots of girls ride now from aged 7 upwards
Nice & safe as you take the bike to events/practice by car or van

Job sorted :)
 
This thread reads as more about a lack of training, than concerns over children.

With three or whatever number of near misses in a short period, you have probably realised that you are not riding the bike that well and now feel the Grim Reaper's cold breath in your ear. The children are just an excuse, unless you believe that you wouldn't care about death or injury if they were not there.

From another of your posts:

Hammy said:
+1

The cruise control is tremendous and, if i can afford it, ill never have a bike without it.

It has also had the added benefit of slowing me down. I very seldom speed now, whereas before this bike it was the exact opposite

I also fitted crash bars and r&g protectors to fit on the handlebars
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Which might read as if you really do not know what you are doing, relying on an electronic speed control, rather than any form of self-restraint coupled to even basic roadcraft. The crash bungs and bars are maybe fitted as you regard the bike 's tumbling over as all but inevitable.

Before you sell you bike, get some proper training. If after it you have decided that motorcycling really isn't all that you now thought it was, then sell it. If it turns out that your learned skills and / or the greater confidence you have gained through good training mean that you are now able to enjoy your bike more and ride better, then all is right with the world. There is no shame in training, coaching or support; the very best sports and businessmen take advice from others.... It doesn't do them any harm; indeed quite the reverse.
 
JohnnyBoxer said:
Reading that, I bet you've never had any advanced riding training

Spend £500 on 2 days 1 to 1 training and then re evaluate
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Got to agree with that.... It will help you to anticipate dangers and hazards... if you're on top of your ride you'll feel a lot more confident :thumb2

Edit: All that Wapping has said :thumb
 
JohnnyBoxer said:
Sell it and take up Trials

Get your kicks offroad, kids can come & watch you and lots of girls ride now from aged 7 upwards
Nice & safe as you take the bike to events/practice by car or van

Job sorted :)
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Are you saying that the OP is a girl, JB?:P
 
Wapping said:
There is no shame in training, coaching or support; the very best sports and businessmen take advice from others.... It doesn't do them any harm; indeed quite the reverse.
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Absolutely true!!!
But I still believe this is not what the guy is talking about! The training gives you confidence in how you drive vehicle....but unfortunately doesn't avoid all the other dangers brought by other vehicles on the road and I think this is what he s talking about! That's why my suggestion was before KEEP THE BIKE ANYWAYS...and do the training later. Maybe leave it in a garage for a few weeks and see if you can stay without it!!!

Than I have a stupid question regarding the driving super slow for safety or fear....what do you guys consider slow or safe on a DAILY COMMUTE??? I was checking my average speed (over the last 20 days only commute) is 14.4 miles per hours...Should I consider it safe enough??? :)

Cheers
 
The training should, if conducted properly, build confidence AND bring a greater understanding of the real hazards on the road AND a clearer idea of how to REDUCE (but not entirely eliminate) the chances of encountering them.

Take for example the three near misses in what we assume is a short period of time. The OP gives no reason for them and they may indeed have just been the roll of the dice. Or they might have been that his road positioning is all to pot, he's not seeing or anticipating the hazards or that he's so engrossed in the wonder of his new steed that all common sense has left his noddle along with his breakfast.... Or that he's become so wrapped up in his fear of motorcycling and it's possible consequences that he's become a menace to other road users as much as to himself.

A decent cession with a good trainer may well nail the issue and remedy it. Or he can just sell his bike and pack up; lots of people do, when they realise it's not the be all and end all of life they imagined it to be.
 
It would be a shame if the OP does hang up his boots, but understandable if he has a young family, and is concerned about leaving them behind, should the worst happen.

OP, if you do sell the bike, I reckon you'll be back within 6 months, once the family have driven you mad!:D
 
I'd be concerned about leaving them behind, too. But only in as much as my departure would probably have been very painful but, hopefully, quick.

Quite where this thread is leading is not obvious. Either the fellow will sell his bike or he won't. The world will still rotate for the rest of humanity.
 
If you need to give up for the sake of seeing your kids grow up, you wouldnt be putting stuff like 'if it doesn't sell I'll re-evaluate'
Either sell it for what its worth..i.e what someone pays or do the right thing...get some training, take away a huge part of the risk and take the girls pillion. My daughters have pillioned for 7yrs of age.
 
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