Camp 1 for me, it would appear 
You know how just as your dropping off you .... whoa ... trip on the kerb and wake yourself back up ... ?
Mine is always a little front end tuck!! Nowadays I'm usually off road in my falling asleep world and hit a wet tree root at an angle or something ....![]()
In one camp, you've probably got blokes that have been bikers for thirty + years, have done sports bikes, maybe trials as a youngster, they've ridden dirt, they've all nearly killed themselves on the road at one time or another and they've all sort of genuinely been there and done that.
They're now looking (or probably more to the point, have found, or indeed found many years ago) a new dimension in their biking.
Now it's about the journey, the friends they forge on the way, the destination, it's a holistic thing now - it's not just about riding a bike. It's maybe part of a life style now. And that holistic thang? that lifestyle choice thang?


Another great post...
Thats me, that is....however, i perceive that applies too you also Giles.
with the exception that your're not a Luddite, but embrace new tech if it floats your boat...
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As the OP I never asked my original question with a view to triggering '12XXenaphobia'. It was actually a mixture of a bit of laziness and aching joints and a touch of paranoia induced by the plethora of gearbox issues. I simply thought I would ask the question as to the best way to adjust the gear lever. As to being labelled and put in the box with Middle class Boorman wannabes, I find it a tad amusing. Council house kid and worked since I was fifteen. One of 6 kids. Didn't have the money for anything new so started out by cobbling together old rusty push bikes donated by kind old dears at Sunday school. Yes we all went in those days. Graduated to a Raleigh moped bought for a fiver. Got it to work and through the MOT. First machine I owned A364 DMA, how sad it sticks in my head 40 years on. Then on through a series of mopeds, Honda 125 twin, RD350, the purple aircooled. Finally at that stage, 850 commando interstate. Then came the wife. A mate had terrified her on the back of an early 750 BMW and she refused to go on a bike. It must have been true love as I sold my bike and got a reliant as I could drive it on the bike licence. Then through several cars. In the nineties went through a VFR 750 and then a Fireblade. Survived but work meant I did not use it so gave up. A year or so ago I got myself a scooter to go back and forth to golf and reignited the dormant addiction. I have been a very lucky man and have worked for what I have. If I want something I will get it. I may not be the most skilled or daredevil rider but I can get from a to b as quick as I choose whilst staying alive. As to repairing bikes and tweaking around I am capable of most things and have the ability to RTFM or back to where we started be humble enough to ask for advice rather than cock it up. There you go not sure what camp I fit not but to be honest I don't care. I love motorcycling for what I get out of it and that is all that really matters.
You put a 'but' in there implying Luddites can't/won't embrace new tech.
I disagree because Luddite's the wrong definition....

A year or so ago I got myself a scooter to go back and forth to golf and reignited the dormant addiction..
all very laudable, but golf?![]()
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As the OP I never asked my original question with a view to triggering '12XXenaphobia'. It was actually a mixture of a bit of laziness and aching joints and a touch of paranoia induced by the plethora of gearbox issues. I simply thought I would ask the question as to the best way to adjust the gear lever. As to being labelled and put in the box with Middle class Boorman wannabes, I find it a tad amusing. Council house kid and worked since I was fifteen. One of 6 kids. Didn't have the money for anything new so started out by cobbling together old rusty push bikes donated by kind old dears at Sunday school. Yes we all went in those days. Graduated to a Raleigh moped bought for a fiver. Got it to work and through the MOT. First machine I owned A364 DMA, how sad it sticks in my head 40 years on. Then on through a series of mopeds, Honda 125 twin, RD350, the purple aircooled. Finally at that stage, 850 commando interstate. Then came the wife. A mate had terrified her on the back of an early 750 BMW and she refused to go on a bike. It must have been true love as I sold my bike and got a reliant as I could drive it on the bike licence. Then through several cars. In the nineties went through a VFR 750 and then a Fireblade. Survived but work meant I did not use it so gave up. A year or so ago I got myself a scooter to go back and forth to golf and reignited the dormant addiction. I have been a very lucky man and have worked for what I have. If I want something I will get it. I may not be the most skilled or daredevil rider but I can get from a to b as quick as I choose whilst staying alive. As to repairing bikes and tweaking around I am capable of most things and have the ability to RTFM or back to where we started be humble enough to ask for advice rather than cock it up. There you go not sure what camp I fit not but to be honest I don't care. I love motorcycling for what I get out of it and that is all that really matters.

As the OP I never asked my original question with a view to triggering '12XXenaphobia'. It was actually a mixture of a bit of laziness and aching joints and a touch of paranoia induced by the plethora of gearbox issues. I simply thought I would ask the question as to the best way to adjust the gear lever. As to being labelled and put in the box with Middle class Boorman wannabes, I find it a tad amusing. Council house kid and worked since I was fifteen. One of 6 kids. Didn't have the money for anything new so started out by cobbling together old rusty push bikes donated by kind old dears at Sunday school. Yes we all went in those days. Graduated to a Raleigh moped bought for a fiver. Got it to work and through the MOT. First machine I owned A364 DMA, how sad it sticks in my head 40 years on. Then on through a series of mopeds, Honda 125 twin, RD350, the purple aircooled. Finally at that stage, 850 commando interstate. Then came the wife. A mate had terrified her on the back of an early 750 BMW and she refused to go on a bike. It must have been true love as I sold my bike and got a reliant as I could drive it on the bike licence. Then through several cars. In the nineties went through a VFR 750 and then a Fireblade. Survived but work meant I did not use it so gave up. A year or so ago I got myself a scooter to go back and forth to golf and reignited the dormant addiction. I have been a very lucky man and have worked for what I have. If I want something I will get it. I may not be the most skilled or daredevil rider but I can get from a to b as quick as I choose whilst staying alive. As to repairing bikes and tweaking around I am capable of most things and have the ability to RTFM or back to where we started be humble enough to ask for advice rather than cock it up. There you go not sure what camp I fit not but to be honest I don't care. I love motorcycling for what I get out of it and that is all that really matters.


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