What is ASC?

[Ogmios]

worse (i.m.o.)

Shan't be long before "I fell off my bike and hurt myself 'cos your ABS, TCS, ASC, PDQ, TBA and bar, Mr BMW, failed to function" becomes acceptable as an excuse for ignoring due dilligence .

or...
you crash.
you claim and...
your compensation is reduced because you didn't have fitted / or had switched off the factory fitted 'Safety Device'.

 

[GSmonkey]

........nice arguments. Again, this all assumes ASC works and in my view, (at the moment) it doesn't. The little light flashes a lot and it cuts the power, so people assume they've been "saved". Turn it off and do the same stretch of road and you'll find you've been "saved" from nothing.

Nice bit of marketing and I guess it makes biking seem safer................

 

[NorthernBoy]

........nice arguments. Again, this all assumes ASC works and in my view, (at the moment) it doesn't. The little light flashes a lot and it cuts the power, so people assume they've been "saved". Turn it off and do the same stretch of road and you'll find you've been "saved" from nothing.

Nice bit of marketing and I guess it makes biking seem safer................

If this is the case, I think that possibly there is a problem with yours, and you should have it checked out. I spent a good amount of time finding out what happens on my bike when you are over the limits straight after I bought it. Part of this was seeing how it reacted to too much throttle coming off a rondabout in crappy conditions. As I wrote above, not only was the back end getting well out of line on the exit from a roundabout, but it was consistently doing it for hundreds of meters afterwards.

With the ASC turned on, doing the same thing resulted in a very clean drive all the way, with the rear feeling much more planted. This was of course a lot less fun, but also much faster.

If yours is not doing this, then yours is not working right.

 

[SMB]

Testing ASC

A friend tested his in a novel way. He found a road with a lot of mud in the centre. (I live in Devon in the back of beyond - it could be mud or not).
Anyway he just gunned it and let the ASC work. He could feel it cut in and out and when he came to the end of the mud the rear wheel caught and the front lifted a little bit then the ASC cut in again. Fun? Well I regard it as a safety device that may only be activated if I make a mistake.

 

[Deleted account LB]

A lot of the comments on this subject have been very interesting and I can understand both parties.

As a born again biker who started riding again after a 20 year gap just 3 years ago, new bikes were a revelation!.

I owned a Exup 1000 when I previously rode a bike in my early 20's which at the time was the dogs, being 20ish I rode it like a prat, youth did that to me i suppose, I also did trail riding and some motocross so I felt comfortable on a bike !

Fast forward 20 years and I thought (I know I will get a bike!!) One k7 GSXR 750 and I was gobsmacked by handling, tyres and brakes that would have only dreamed ofiin my youth, 3 months later I got and 07 R1, awsome kit sooooo quick but too young for an old bugger like me,

Well, after three years now back on bikes and 20,000 miles later I am finally buying an Adventure.

What I am doing is getting every button going, not because i will rely on it all the time, but because its there when I need it and it doesn't harm retail values either.

The latest boughts of icy roads show how people rely on technology in cars, they think that due to 4 wheel drive,tcs,rds, and all that other stuff they won't crash on black ice, well they will. PErhaps they feel that they are invincible. Ferraries, Porches and the like are now fully loaded with kit, the purists say get rid of it, or can I turn it off, but this technology is certainly not harming sales so its here to stay

This technology will become even more common place for certain. Yes it may protect a total numpty from screwing up once in a while but it wont prevent an off in total.

The choice is yours, pay for it if you want it, dont if you dont want it.

I really dont think that forcing "new riders" to do without this so they can learn like we did in the old days won't serve a purpose to be honest, it will probably just discourage people getting into biking in the first place

 

[ijg5]

Yes but that nice day you are out enjoying yourself, the road is clear and you come to a little hill and just want to power wheelie off the top nothing spectacular.... just that feeling of the front going light for a little while..... Well you cant do it unless your ASC is switched off and how many times do you remember to do that. In my opinion it takes the fun out of the bike.

 

[Deleted account LB]

Do they power wheelie ???? ;-)

 

[GSmonkey]

Well, it can't guarantee it......

Exactly why you've still got to ride to the conditions. Unfortunately ASC robs you of some feedback to allow you do to do this. Feeling slides on powering out of corners is just one of the cues required to gauge the conditions.

Whether you're convinced its any use in slippy conditions, what can't be debated is that its a genuine pain in the arse in good conditions!!! What really annoys me is when you wait for the front to lift over a rise and you just get the bloody engine cutting out

 

[ijg5]

Do they power wheelie ???? ;-)

Especially with a lardyboy on them.

 

[NorthernBoy]

Whether you're convinced its any use in slippy conditions, what can't be debated is that its a genuine pain in the arse in good conditions!!! What really annoys me is when you wait for the front to lift over a rise and you just get the bloody engine cutting out

If I'm out for a play, I turn it off, but if I am just trying to get somewhere with the least fuss, and especially of conditions are bad, I leave it on, just like in the car.

 

[ijg5]

If I'm out for a play, I turn it off, but if I am just trying to get somewhere with the least fuss, and especially of conditions are bad, I leave it on, just like in the car.

Yes but there are times when you start off and you have no intention of having fun, that boring ride to work but then something happens and you just want that 2 minutes of fun but you have the ASC switched on........ By the time you stop switch it off that piece of tarmac may have passed..

 

[SMB]

On my 08 GS I can switch off the ABS & ASC as I am riding, I dont have to stop!

 

[NorthernBoy]

Yes but there are times when you start off and you have no intention of having fun, that boring ride to work but then something happens and you just want that 2 minutes of fun but you have the ASC switched on........ By the time you stop switch it off that piece of tarmac may have passed..

Sorry, but this is just getting ridiculous now. If you cannot even manage to move your thumb to press the button while you are moving, then you probably should not be out on a bike at all.

 

[ijg5]

Sorry, but this is just getting ridiculous now. If you cannot even manage to move your thumb to press the button while you are moving, then you probably should not be out on a bike at all.

A nice little hill, clear road, lets just pull a little wheelie over the top, that's right I must hit this little button first. ASC is not for me but everyone has an opinion.

 

[NorthernBoy]

A nice little hill, clear road, lets just pull a little wheelie over the top, that's right I must hit this little button first. ASC is not for me but everyone has an opinion.

So your point above about needing to stop, and so missing out on the good piece of tarmac was rubbish then?

 

[ijg5]

As stated in the post my GSA does not have ASC. Made sure I ordered without. The test ride of 300 mile did and at that time I thought that was the only way to switch it off. I now know different.