What is it like?

Boring as fuck.:rolleyes:

Don't be so touchy.

It doesn't take long for people to slate the GS in this section. Quite sad really.

I wouldn't say 1200GS/GSA is boring, now F700gs was boring and cramped......


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Boring as fuck.:rolleyes:

Don't be so touchy.

It doesn't take long for people to slate the GS in this section. Quite sad really.

Agreed - nothing wrong with the GS/GSA - enjoyed all of mine :beerjug:

......as I am now enjoying my 3rd KTM :cool:







PS - noticed in another thread you slating JB abut residuals on modern GS's as he has never owned one. So how many KTM's have you owned :augie

To comment on a bikes residuals, with no first hand experience, just what you hear on here is a bit misleading JB.:rolleyes:
 
Personally the 1290 doesn't do it for me, mostly for all the reasons Giles gave. I'm also no fan of electronic suspension so that would be a deal breaker.. But, as everyone else has said, the engines really are something else. They improve even further with a few miles on them. Mine at just under 13k now is super tractable and far smoother than v-twin has any right to be.

Mine's now in it's third winter and is used regardless of weather. I can honestly say, hand on heart, that there is still no corrosion on it apart from light surface rust on the disc bobbins which polishes out if I can be arsed. Build quality is, IMO, better than WBM and componentry is all to a very high standard.

Reliability - well, have a look in the 'tell me about' thread, loads of info there but in a nutshell I've had new discs, a collapsed oil filter and and a weep form the air box breather. All sorted under warranty with no drama.

The big thing for me and which explains why I love mine so much is how engaging the ride is. It's not something that you can put your finger on, you feel it in your soul............ I always find GS's a bit remote, they don't grab me by the short and curlies like my R does. They are tools. Very, very good tools but soulless, efficient, Teutonic tools none the less. They are easy to ride too, flattering less than perfect riding. The Katies are easy to ride, sure the electronics make sure they are if you have them switched on but they still keep you on your toes a bit more (in a good, fun way). Turn the electronics off and you'll be giggling like a mad thing...................

Worth knowing too that KTM always do good deals on out going models so if you're sold on the current model It'll be worth waiting for when the new one comes out.

Andres
 
Yes and you know it which is why you keep coming here causing bother. Nothing can be posted here without you sticking you nose in.

Where have I caused bother? I said the bikes are good, let down by the dealers/ KTM.

You, on the other hand, just snipe and slate the GS at every opportunity. Why?
 
Personally the 1290 doesn't do it for me, mostly for all the reasons Giles gave. I'm also no fan of electronic suspension so that would be a deal breaker.. But, as everyone else has said, the engines really are something else. They improve even further with a few miles on them. Mine at just under 13k now is super tractable and far smoother than v-twin has any right to be.

Mine's now in it's third winter and is used regardless of weather. I can honestly say, hand on heart, that there is still no corrosion on it apart from light surface rust on the disc bobbins which polishes out if I can be arsed. Build quality is, IMO, better than WBM and componentry is all to a very high standard.

Reliability - well, have a look in the 'tell me about' thread, loads of info there but in a nutshell I've had new discs, a collapsed oil filter and and a weep form the air box breather. All sorted under warranty with no drama.

The big thing for me and which explains why I love mine so much is how engaging the ride is. It's not something that you can put your finger on, you feel it in your soul............ I always find GS's a bit remote, they don't grab me by the short and curlies like my R does. They are tools. Very, very good tools but soulless, efficient, Teutonic tools none the less. They are easy to ride too, flattering less than perfect riding. The Katies are easy to ride, sure the electronics make sure they are if you have them switched on but they still keep you on your toes a bit more (in a good, fun way). Turn the electronics off and you'll be giggling like a mad thing...................

Worth knowing too that KTM always do good deals on out going models so if you're sold on the current model It'll be worth waiting for when the new one comes out.

Andres

Well Done Andres or Outtomunch if that's your preference. You are capable of giving clear and well written answers, reviews and opinions without being a t..t about the matter.

Much love

EV


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PS - noticed in another thread you slating JB abut residuals on modern GS's as he has never owned one. So how many KTM's have you owned :augie

I haven't owned a brand new KTM, and don't need to, to know how much they lose. I have friends that have been stung when they want to change. There are also plenty of threads on several forums about how people have taken a big hit on them come resale time. Plus KTM keep discounting models, thus leaving owners with a larger cost to offload come resale time. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that this will have a knock on effect on the used bike market.

I've never gone into the figures on here, like JB does (incorrectly), but could if you'd like me to?
 
Hemel..... Saturday...... 2pm.... I'll let you know how I get on with it.


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..........going into a KTM dealer and not being offered a posh coffee does not count :P

:D

All joking aside, I do like the bikes. I know you lot think I don't, and that I just come in here trolling, but I've ridden a few, and they are great fun.

Would I replace my GSA with one? Probably not, as that ticks all the boxes for me, for that type of bike right now. But if the reasons I've mentioned above were addressed, I'd certainly entertain the idea of having one as a second bike.:thumb

I'm changing the XR this year, so if I can find a decent dealer with a GT as a demo (there were none available when I bought the XR) and can have one for half a day, it could be an option, if there's a deal to be had. Don't worry just yet though!:P
 
:D

All joking aside, I do like the bikes. I know you lot think I don't, and that I just come in here trolling, but I've ridden a few, and they are great fun.

Would I replace my GSA with one? Probably not, as that ticks all the boxes for me, for that type of bike right now. But if the reasons I've mentioned above were addressed, I'd certainly entertain the idea of having one as a second bike.:thumb

I'm changing the XR this year, so if I can find a decent dealer with a GT as a demo (there were none available when I bought the XR), and can have one for half a day, it could be an option. Don't worry just yet though!:P

...............you will always be welcome "when" you finally do buy a KTM :beerjug:

................but please wait until after Arsey has bought and sold his next KTM - not sure we can handle both of you at the same time :blast :D:D
 
.................. Plus KTM keep discounting models, thus leaving owners with a larger cost to offload come resale time. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out..................................

So buy one when they are discounted :nenau

I appreciate you and I come at this from polar opposites in so much as I hang onto my bikes for a while and that I NEVER consider depreciation. There's too much shit in this world, work and home life, where that sort of boring bollox sticks it''s head in.
Bike's are about fun, girls, pain and more fun and are food for the heart and soul. Practicality has no place in the two wheeled world (unless you've lost the will to live and ride something like an RT.....................). Where's your romance? Your soul??

Andres

PS I also realise there is no romance or soul when it comes to a maunufacturer building and selling bikes and the bottom line - people like me are a marketing man's dream :D
 
PS I also realise there is no romance or soul when it comes to a maunufacturer building and selling bikes and the bottom line - people like me are a marketing man's dream :D

.......hardly or you would already have an order in for a new 1290R :D
 
.......hardly or you would already have an order in for a new 1290R :D

Actually.............yes, you're right! :rob I AM the alternative, leftfield bikermate. Phew, thanks for pointing that out Paul!

It's people like ' New Bike Every Year PCP Nutty' that are the marketing man's dream :D

Andres
 
He did have a quick spank on mine ..
I spoke to Cato afterwards and Cato told me that Nutty rode him like a girl ..


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