What should I be paying?!

[pele]

Evening all. I'm on the verge of ordering a new GSA and hope you can help me out with what I should be looking to pay.

Currently got one dealer down to £13k for GSA with premium and dynamic pack but I am sure I can beat them down a bit more!

Does anyone else have any experience or advice with regard to what they paid or what I should be aiming to pay?

I will be paying cash with no part exchange.

Thanks for your help!

P.S. can't decide between yellow and grey - any strong opinions?? I'm usually the grey type but the yellow is looking bizarrely appealing!

 

[peepingtom]

hi Pele, cant help with the prices but im liking the yellow too! Go for it

 

[Beano]

for 13k i would want panniers and a twat suit as well!

go for a white one!!

 

[yellowgs]

yellow is best, push them for panniers

 

[Giles]

The deal I have just done with Vines in South london (Caterham) was for 13.7k, but this included panniers and top box. Take the cost of those off and its probably about the same. I was pretty persistent with my bartering (I was trying to play them off against a Ducati Multistrada) but they wouldn't shift.
I don't like the yellow!! Much prefer the black / grey. (2010 doesn't come in white).

 

[Seawolf]

It's a new model in high demand so you won't get a big discount, but just to give you an idea of the margin they may have, back in September 09 it wasn't hard to get a GSA with Dynamic and Premium packs for under £12K.

I'd push for a top box or panniers as even if you don't need them as they will make the bike easier to sell when the time comes.

 

[Bahnstormer]

Hello

 

[K75 King]

HELLO

 

[midnitemo]

Doesn't seem to be a lot of scope for manouever

Hi , paid list for my gsa last may but got the panniers on a freebie , got 400 quid more than i thought for my Ktm swapper , got bmw pannier bags for 50 quid instead of 150 and they hard wired my sat nav for free , deal's are not easy to get , there's a huge demand! would ave tried for some of the options for free but i didn't want any of them , like my bikes undiluted and full phat....oh and i'm a luddite !

 

[twizzle]

give the guys at Bahnstormer a ring... very good IMO....

 

[MNH]

Thanks for all your help guys, will hopefully save me some £££'s!

Decided on yellow now anyway (I think!).

 

[snerkler]

BMW are notorious for not giving big discounts. Combine this with the fact that the 2010 GSA was only released a couple of weeks ago they aren't going to shift an awful lot, despite the huge profit margins they've likely got. They do tend to give very very good trade in values though, probably higher than anywhere else.

I liked the yellow initially, but after seeing it in the flesh wasn't too keen as it's a bit dull and lifeless, but that's just my opinion I can't believe BMW are calling it metallic, it certainly doesn't look it

 

[zzrman]

BMW are notorious for not giving big discounts. Combine this with the fact that the 2010 GSA was only released a couple of weeks ago they aren't going to shift an awful lot, despite the huge profit margins they've likely got. They do tend to give very very good trade in values though, probably higher than anywhere else.

I liked the yellow initially, but after seeing it in the flesh wasn't too keen as it's a bit dull and lifeless, but that's just my opinion I can't believe BMW are calling it metallic, it certainly doesn't look it

A few points:

1. BMW are a small volume manufacturer. in 2009 they built c. 100,000 bikes. Honda built 10.1 million bikes.

2. This means that virtually all BMWs are built to order. OK the order will in most cases be to the dealer's specification but it does mean that the factory build what the dealers believe they can sell. If the dealer has stock that he has specified because he believes that he can sell it then since supply and demand are in reasonable balance he should be able to sell it without giving a significant discount.

3. Compare this with some of the Japanese manufacturers e.g. Suzuki. Suzuki start off the year with a plan that says we will build say 100,000 GSXR 1000s. Towards the end of the year they have sold 90,000. The 10,000 unsold but built bikes are dumped on the market at a big discount in order to sell them before the next year's model comes on the market. So you could at least until recently buy a 2009 GSXR 1000 for £8,200 at 0% or 2% finance. This has a knock on effect on the value of second hand bikes. I have a chap who wants to buy an S1000 RR but who needs to sell his bike to help finance it. He has an immaculate August 2009 GSXR 1000 with 1,800 miles on the clock, bought for over £9k. The best bid I could get to underwrite that bike was £6,000. I had one bid of £5,200. The quid pro quo of BMW not dumping bikes on the market is that the second hand value of our bikes is maintained.

4. Thus with the new GS, GSA and RT don't expect discounts. Demand is strong, at least matching supply at the moment. That is not to say you can't get a deal. If you live in the dealer's geographic catchment area you stand a good chance as, if they are sensible, they will want to build a relationship with you. The smart dealer does not want every penny you have now. He will want a few bob off you every year for the next 10 to 20 years. However, don't expect to phone up a dealer 200 miles away and be offered a discounted price (unless they are stupid) as they will expect that all you want is a price you can use as a stick with which to beat your local dealer.

5. I don't know what you define as "huge profit margins". Define and I might discuss it.

6. Shine Yellow is a metallic colour. It just doesn't show it well under showroom lighting. It needs natural light to look good; just like the Light Grey Metallic colour on a K1300S.