What's going on! (Cleaning Issue)

[suipedali]

I recently used some Muc Off Degreaser/Cleaner on the wheels of my 1150. After rinsing of the wheels I was left with a white cloudy finish on the rims. It's almost as if some sort of oxidation is taking place once the rims have been rinsed and dried. Any ideas ?

 

[mike wright]

Its the same with Wonder Wheelsand takes serious polishing to get it back...no other way I know Im afraid

 

[suipedali]

Serious as in using some sort of mechanical polisher or hand polishing along with an abrasive of some sort?

 

[MattW]

Spoked wheels or cast?

If it's spoked, I pity you - BM cross spokes are a knuckle breaking b'stard to polish (I speak as the owner of an 1100 with raw alloy spoked wheels )

I've heard that Muc Off can be a bit aggressive...

 

[Gazzabart]

dilute

you should always dilute it 50/50
neat is to strong
BMW dealer told me i thought bollox
so i did some searching and he was right
on a push bike forum they had problems with the stickers fading and peeling off the bikes thats how strong it is neat
anyway not such a bad thing as you get 50% extra then

 

[PDiddy]

you should always dilute it 50/50
neat is to strong

+ 1, it takes the shine right off if you don't dilute it, and never let it dry before you rinse it off your bike -

 

[suipedali]

I did dilute it 50/50. I've used it on my Colnago Carbon Fibre Road Bike with no issues and i've used it on all my other road and mtb bikes with no issues. Would a Dremel do the trick and any recomendations of what polish etc to use?

 

[MikeP]

I don't think that polishing is going to do anything except make things worse.

Your wheels should be clear anodised. If you take any abrasive polish to the surface you'll just end up with a bigger mess.

If you have a surface bloom, more washing/cleaning may remove it in time (if you want something that safely cleans BMW wheels for the future, get BMW car wheel cleaner; it's a concentrated detergent and not acidic. It's also safe on the rest of the bike).

If the Muc-Off has crept under the finish (where the spoke goes through the rim is the weak point), you are stuck with it short of removing the anodising and good luck with that.

I say again: Don't take a Dremmel or anything else to the surface. You will regret that more.

 

[Berwick Ranger]

I'm sure I've recently seen that Muc-Off have changed the formula because of this problem

 

[MattW]

I'm sure I've recently seen that Muc-Off have changed the formula because of this problem

I bought a bottle before I read about these problems. Luckily I didn't get round to using it - it's been relegated to cleaning the cooker (does a good job of that!) and I've bought S-Doc gel for the bike.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

I don't think that polishing is going to do anything except make things worse.

Your wheels should be clear anodised. If you take any abrasive polish to the surface you'll just end up with a bigger mess.

If you have a surface bloom, more washing/cleaning may remove it in time (if you want something that safely cleans BMW wheels for the future, get BMW car wheel cleaner; it's a concentrated detergent and not acidic. It's also safe on the rest of the bike).

If the Muc-Off has crept under the finish (where the spoke goes through the rim is the weak point), you are stuck with it short of removing the anodising and good luck with that.

I say again: Don't take a Dremmel or anything else to the surface. You will regret that more.

I would never use any Wonder Wheels or Muc Off on any bike/car

Completely over the top and does damage, as you've now found off

Unless you wash off nearly immediately.................the white bloom ensues

I bought a 1100GS that the previous numpty owner had used Muc Off on the wheels and it enabled me to knock him down £400

With the £400, I eventually bought a brand new front and rear GS wheel - problem then resolved

No amount of polishing will rectify it - the wheels are now fecked

 

[gabriel_gs]

I use the Turtle Wax Nonotech stuff (green pray bottle)

Works well, leaves a good finish - just don't get it on your plastics as it'll leave a white residue that doesn't come off.

 

[slalom]

I recently used some Muc Off Degreaser/Cleaner on the wheels of my 1150. After rinsing of the wheels I was left with a white cloudy finish on the rims. It's almost as if some sort of oxidation is taking place once the rims have been rinsed and dried. Any ideas ?

Try wiping wheels with cloth and WD40. Don't spray on the wheels and tyres for obvious reasons - just wipe it on. Worked for me.
You may have to repeat every so often. As others have said, be careful with cleaners.

slalom

 

[suipedali]

Thanks for all your help/suggestions. £400 for a new pair of GS wheels, sounds pretty good value to me, my last set of road bike(cycling) wheels cost me jusy under £1k. One again many thanks!

 

[sieve68]

I would never use any Wonder Wheels or Muc Off on any bike/car

Completely over the top and does damage, as you've now found off

Unless you wash off nearly immediately.................the white bloom ensues

I bought a 1100GS that the previous numpty owner had used Muc Off on the wheels and it enabled me to knock him down £400

With the £400, I eventually bought a brand new front and rear GS wheel - problem then resolved

No amount of polishing will rectify it - the wheels are now fecked

So a bit of discolouration means they are fecked?
Can i have all the kit you throw out please?

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

So a bit of discolouration means they are fecked?
Can i have all the kit you throw out please?

Fecked from an aesthetic point of view

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Thanks for all your help/suggestions. £400 for a new pair of GS wheels, sounds pretty good value to me, my last set of road bike(cycling) wheels cost me jusy under £1k. One again many thanks!

£400 was heavily discounted..................more like £1000 at dealer prices

 

[Lord Snooty]

Wheel for sale

I suggest you contact Colin Phillips asap before this gets snapped up.

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173913

 

[Wrinkly]

Only use a quality vehicle shampoo to clean your wheels i.e MER,Autoglym.
Shampoo is not the same as cleaner and never use washing up liquid.
I have had many bikes with wire wheels and always managed to keep them in good condition.
So wash your wheels in a good shampoo dry them off then apply a product called "Bilt Hamber"If you google it you'll find it,sorry i don't know how to link you there.it's not cheap,300ml is now £18,but it is exellent stuff.I apply it in the winter and don't polish it off,in the summer just use it as you would a polish.
I do use Acf 50 on bikes i use all year round,but i still use Bilt Hamber on the wheels.
My 1100s does not go out on salty roads and is stored for the winter,i dont use Acf 50 on this but coat it in Bilt Hamber,then just take a clean cloth to it and polish it up.


Steve

 

[Robbo1200ADV]

Try Motorex protect and shine after youve cleaned them they will look like new!! Use it on mine all year round on all my bikes