whats the hold up/do i reject bike

[Schwarz Baron]

What have BMW done wrong, other than recall his bike, and hold on too it longer than he thought they should have. I had a clutch replaced by Ocean whilst on holiday on my 1100 a few years back. I only got it back on the 5th day. It went again on my way up through Wales, and I nursed it home, all because they didn't replace the cause of the problem, not the clutch, but a leaking seal, in the gear-box linkage. When I left it in again, at my home dealers it was away nearly a week, got it back job done. Another 5 years ownership, problem free.
When the Citreon Picasso first came out and I bought one, I had a recall happening on it once nearly every 2 months, I don't know why I bought another one, but it was still getting recalled for faults to be fixed, as frequently as a few years later. It would appear this is a frequent happening through-out all aspects of the industry. I personally wouldn't be rushing back, demanding this and that, I don't believe you'll find service different anywhere else.

 

[Mzokk]

I had'nt realised we had our home bred Bakerman

F k me Harry have you been on the liquid lunches again "Hadn't" surely!

 

[harry]

Mzokk

That one slipped by my proof reader

 

[JNC]

What have BMW done wrong, other than recall his bike, and hold on too it longer than he thought they should have. I had a clutch replaced by Ocean whilst on holiday on my 1100 a few years back. I only got it back on the 5th day. It went again on my way up through Wales, and I nursed it home, all because they didn't replace the cause of the problem, not the clutch, but a leaking seal, in the gear-box linkage. When I left it in again, at my home dealers it was away nearly a week, got it back job done. Another 5 years ownership, problem free.
When the Citreon Picasso first came out and I bought one, I had a recall happening on it once nearly every 2 months, I don't know why I bought another one, but it was still getting recalled for faults to be fixed, as frequently as a few years later. It would appear this is a frequent happening through-out all aspects of the industry. I personally wouldn't be rushing back, demanding this and that, I don't believe you'll find service different anywhere else.

why buy the bike when the dealer is going to have it longer than me after i bought it i may as well just rent one when i feel like going for a ride

 

[the civil one]

why buy the bike when the dealer is going to have it longer than me after i bought it i may as well just rent one when i feel like going for a ride

Here JNC , I,ll rent ye wan ,but ye,ll hay te come up tae Donegal tae get it.

Naw , Think its a Wee Bit O.T.T . 3 Wks no moto, you shellin out 9K.
The boys ,ll look after ye tho , git yirsell wan o them new BM Suits
and insist on a Discount.

 

[JNC]

If a supplier (in this case of clutch parts) notifies BWM that they've had some QC problems, BWM (Or any manufavturer for that matter) can only react to it by recalling bikes.....if this one had already been shipped there's no way around it but to recall after the customer has picked it up

It's always easy to start shouting about it but I can't see how they could have done anything different???

I can't quite make out from his apprently chemically enhanced ramblings whether he recieved a courtesy bike or not, but I'd agree thathe should have done in these circumstances.

bmw notified me recalled bike no problem,three weeks to source and replace clutch and thats not guaranted, problem,courtesy bike k1200s are they just trying to humiliate me cos i'm sure i look a right prat riding round with gs1 enduro boots and tour x helmet on a sports bike

 

[JNC]

Here JNC , I,ll rent ye wan ,but ye,ll hay te come up tae Donegal tae get it.

Naw , Think its a Wee Bit O.T.T . 3 Wks no moto, you shellin out 9K.
The boys ,ll look after ye tho , git yirsell wan o them new BM Suits
and insist on a Discount.

to late already got one

 

[Fanum]

bmw notified me recalled bike no problem,three weeks to source and replace clutch and thats not guaranted, problem,courtesy bike k1200s are they just trying to humiliate me cos i'm sure i look a right prat riding round with gs1 enduro boots and tour x helmet on a sports bike

If they'd have given you a scarver, fairenough, every right to complain, but FFS, they've given you a K1200S for a couple of weeks and you're moaning???

Yes you may look slightly odd with your kit on it, but just go out and ride the bastard and enjoy it!!!

Are you a biker or a fashion victim???

It's free FFS!!!!



Sorry JNC, but I can't see a great deal of justification for your rant

 

[the civil one]

If they'd have given you a scarver, fairenough, every right to complain, but FFS, they've given you a K1200S for a couple of weeks and you're moaning???

Yes you may look slightly odd with your kit on it, but just go out and ride the bastard and enjoy it!!!

Are you a biker or a Fashion Victim

It's free FFS!!!!



Sorry JNC, but I can't see a great deal of justification for your rant

Cannie Aggree wey ye here Fanum !
The Mans just put 9K GBP Hard earned on the Table , and gets
something he doesnt want !.

And the Notion its for FREE ! , Nowt Free where tha Bike Came From
Thon boys as Hard nosed as they come !

 

[Fanum]

They're charging for a loaner after a new bike went tits up????

That's crap then

 

[Schwarz Baron]

JNC states: He's had the bike 4 weeks, it's been in the dealers a week and a half , they could have held it back before delivery, and done the warranty work. He'd have maybe not had the bike at all, yet...

JNC says he complained, they've given him the K1200s to ride around on, where does he state he's had to pay for it , point it out to me, please. I only see him complain about riding around in GS boots, so what!

I'm not getting at you man, but you didn't have a broken new bike, BMW seem to be shutting the barn door quickly on this occasion, before the horse escapes. You've had a bit of moaning to do, before you got the loan bike, but FCSK, it's a K1200S. It's only a week and a half in this shitty weather, I've been waiting on my new ADV for 6mths And they've had my old one since, it's still in the shop

 

[JNC]

JNC states: He's had the bike 4 weeks, it's been in the dealers a week and a half , they could have held it back before delivery, and done the warranty work. He'd have maybe not had the bike at all, yet...

JNC says he complained, they've given him the K1200s to ride around on, where does he state he's had to pay for it , point it out to me, please. I only see him complain about riding around in GS boots, so what!

I'm not getting at you man, but you didn't have a broken new bike, BMW seem to be shutting the barn door quickly on this occasion, before the horse escapes. You've had a bit of moaning to do, before you got the loan bike, but FCSK, it's a K1200S. It's only a week and a half in this shitty weather, I've been waiting on my new ADV for 6mths And they've had my old one since, it's still in the shop

if they held it back i would still have my own bike not someone else's ,you no when i'll have to pay for it ,if i have a mis-hap my fault or not do u think the dearler is going to say no problem sunny dont worry about a thing we'll take care of it ,if i return with half a k12s and a big full of bits [i dont think so ]and you want me to enjoy riding it with that in your mind , you choose to wait six plus months on your ADV i didn't hope everything goes smooooooothly when u eventually get ADV cos if it does'nt this will be your face

 

[Schwarz Baron]

if they held it back i would still have my own bike not someone else's ,you no when i'll have to pay for it ,if i have a mis-hap my fault or not do u think the dearler is going to say no problem sunny dont worry about a thing we'll take care of it ,if i return with half a k12s and a big full of bits [i dont think so ]and you want me to enjoy riding it with that in your mind , you choose to wait six plus months on your ADV i didn't hope everything goes smooooooothly when u eventually get ADV cos if it does'nt this will be your face

I've never had any probs with our local dealer, this is my fourth BM, probably says it all really

 

[GSYank]

Latest Word from Dealer in the States

My local dealer in California says BMW has shut down production of the 1200RT's & GS's until they get this problem resolved and can determine a course of action. The people who already have bikes that are affected are on the Priority list to receive parts first, followed by dealers with bikes shipped but not sold. There is no ETA from BMW as to when these parts will ship. BMW apparently likes to take small, decisive steps. All we can do is hurry up and wait...

 

[JNC]

My local dealer in California says BMW has shut down production of the 1200RT's & GS's until they get this problem resolved and can determine a course of action. The people who already have bikes that are affected are on the Priority list to receive parts first, followed by dealers with bikes shipped but not sold. There is no ETA from BMW as to when these parts will ship. BMW apparently likes to take small, decisive steps. All we can do is hurry up and wait...

thanks gs yank ,it only took someone half way round world to tell me what exactly is going on .not my local service manager

 

[Jockser]

My local dealer in California says BMW has shut down production of the 1200RT's & GS's until they get this problem resolved and can determine a course of action

Thats really goin' to speed up delivery of your ADV, Schwarz

Hang in there man, it'll be worth it

 

[Schnell Panzer]

My local dealer in California says BMW has shut down production of the 1200RT's & GS's until they get this problem resolved and can determine a course of action. The people who already have bikes that are affected are on the Priority list to receive parts first, followed by dealers with bikes shipped but not sold. There is no ETA from BMW as to when these parts will ship. BMW apparently likes to take small, decisive steps. All we can do is hurry up and wait...

GSYank
That's slightly incorrect, dealers are still receiving bikes in the UK, only those affected are held back and will be sorted by the factory before being shipped. If your bike is delayed, any dealer worth their salt would find an alternative bike PDQ rather than delay the sale / your enjoyment any further, as already mentioned in this post.

JNC
As for bikes already on the road, sad as it is that your pride and joy is sitting at the dealer waiting for bits, but if you've got a courtesy bike FOC great, if you prang it, likelyhood is you would have been on the same road at the same time but on your own bike, the outcome and costs would be much the same.

 

[Schwarz Baron]

Thats really goin' to speed up delivery of your ADV, Schwarz

Hang in there man, it'll be worth it

I am hanging, I'm also assuming that as my bike should be nearly ready to be built, due here, 24th April, the mod will be done on site.

 

[JNC]

GSYank
That's slightly incorrect, dealers are still receiving bikes in the UK, only those affected are held back and will be sorted by the factory before being shipped. If your bike is delayed, any dealer worth their salt would find an alternative bike PDQ rather than delay the sale / your enjoyment any further, as already mentioned in this post.

JNC
As for bikes already on the road, sad as it is that your pride and joy is sitting at the dealer waiting for bits, but if you've got a courtesy bike FOC great, if you prang it, likelyhood is you would have been on the same road at the same time but on your own bike, the outcome and costs would be much the same.

i ride my bike and lets say deisel spill the worst happens the fully comp insurance picks up the bill i ride your bike or anyone else's for that matter and my insurance covers third party only ,as stated to me by the dealer as well your covered third party,so i think outcome and costs would be a lot differant

 

[Deadskin]

JNC
I do not understand why you have to justify your rant

So they've given you a K1200s to ride well whoopy doo,
if you had wanted a wrist breaking tub of lard you would have bought one instead of the GS