garfield
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.......only when doing humane crucifixion..........
a classic freudian slip....I think anyway.....
When is bright too bright?
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a classic freudian slip....I think anyway.....
Davy F
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However, even 35watt HID is bright..
I've just had a set of the 35's that Les sells (thanks, Thunder
) fitted. Plenty bright enough and the difference is amazing.
Les is based in Congleton Cheshire.
Bikerbrady
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Jeremy.................its your twat suit mate!! 
, and not to mention those oem lovely lights you so beautifully fu***d up 
I knew Id get it in some time..............us ferret loving flat cap wearers just cant resist a poke at you southys
Have to say tho that when les powered up your bike I think we were both grinning from ear to ear and it wasnt even my bike.
Biker
, and not to mention those oem lovely lights you so beautifully fu***d up I knew Id get it in some time..............us ferret loving flat cap wearers just cant resist a poke at you southys
Have to say tho that when les powered up your bike I think we were both grinning from ear to ear and it wasnt even my bike.
Biker
BigAlMacMac
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Hopefully to round off the discussion I started...
Much advice given to adjust the lights... so yesterday when out with me old dad and GSer, after getting flashed some more, we found a wall and parked parallel.
Well oops, my lights were somewhat high.
Easy to adjust back down, especially when next to the same bike.
Didn't drive enough after that to find out if it fixed my dazzling other drivers but I expect it does.
Thanks to all who contributed... and the lights are brilliant, easy to fit, and as many others said, probably the best upgrade for your GS
Much advice given to adjust the lights... so yesterday when out with me old dad and GSer, after getting flashed some more, we found a wall and parked parallel.
Well oops, my lights were somewhat high.
Easy to adjust back down, especially when next to the same bike.
Didn't drive enough after that to find out if it fixed my dazzling other drivers but I expect it does.
Thanks to all who contributed... and the lights are brilliant, easy to fit, and as many others said, probably the best upgrade for your GS
Yes I'd like to get my lights upgraded at some stage. I presume when Les does the job he will adjust the lights so they don't dazzle? Anyway I had better start saving cause i want some side spots to!
I have sent an email to Les as this is a must have upgrade as far as I am concerned. I love riding at night and being extra visable during the day.. I was told by a mate that they're not so good for main beam as they take a little longer to 'heat up' so not to good if you want to use the flash? he has a set fitted on the dipped beam of his K12 and PIAA for the mail beam. I know bugger all so am asking - is he right? or......
. Does the dipped beam on the GS stay on when the main beam is activated? 
. Does the dipped beam on the GS stay on when the main beam is activated? 
alimey4u2
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Does the dipped beam on the GS stay on when the main beam is activated?
Yes..
Ta
I have sent an email to Les as this is a must have upgrade as far as I am concerned. I love riding at night and being extra visable during the day.. I was told by a mate that they're not so good for main beam as they take a little longer to 'heat up' so not to good if you want to use the flash? he has a set fitted on the dipped beam of his K12 and PIAA for the mail beam. I know bugger all so am asking - is he right? or......
IMO a halogen main is a waste of time if you have a HID dip. i doubt you'd be able to tell when it's on.
yes, a cold lamp flash is a bit odd, in that you get an intense flash, followed by dim, gradually getting brighter. when warm this is almost instantaeous.
nothing to worry about. do you really need to flash people anyway? on the other hand, flash them with a warm burner and they'll certainly not miss it
ELIMINATOR
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Here's a thought for you all. If any conventional bulb above the standard wattage is sold, it is marked " Not for use on public roads". So where does this leave HIDs? 35watt is way brighter than Halogen bulb, as for 50Watt HID. Will a new law / regulation be introduced stipulating the maximum K rating for HID?
Originally if a bulb drew more current, it was supposedly brighter, but a 100 watt halogen would be illegal, wheras a 50 hid isn't, but is far brighter?
Originally if a bulb drew more current, it was supposedly brighter, but a 100 watt halogen would be illegal, wheras a 50 hid isn't, but is far brighter?
I think the anwser is whilst it is still a small part of the motoring world with these lights then it will be just ignored, if as and when it becomes a problem then some MP or orher will introduce a bill to make lights judged by their candle power or some such.
Has to be said though we are supposed to rough tough bike riding types, so what do we care if we pee off some wan-ker in a sports car ? Its their own damn silly fault for driving a car as opposed to riding a bike !!
alimey4u2
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Did a bit of motorway riding today (forgive me Lord for I know not what I do) & was amazed (yes amazed) at the way the traffic parted upon my approach. Twas like Moses parting the waters & with a 35 Watt dip beam only..
Yes, they were driving in a similar direction.....
Yes, they were driving in a similar direction.....
Davy F
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I wonder is it the colour of the HID's making the difference ? I've noticed that daytime riding seems to be slightly different now with drivers seemingly taking more notice.
Just wait 'til I get my Wassallized HID fogs fitted.
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alimey4u2
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I wonder is it the colour of the HID's making the difference ? I've noticed that daytime riding seems to be slightly different now with drivers seemingly taking more notice.
Just wait 'til I get my Wassallized HID fogs fitted.
Not sure but I also noticed oncoming bikers paying more attention....
I use a 35W in the dip, I think 50W is a bit much.
Was in the van on the M4 a few weeks back and saw a 1200 approaching from miles off with a very bright blue-white dip. I wouldn't want to be in front of him at night, it would be a pain in the mirror.
Cheesing off drivers does not seem like a sensible strategy, so I've got my HID adjusted to point down quite a bit more than the halogen it replaced.
Was in the van on the M4 a few weeks back and saw a 1200 approaching from miles off with a very bright blue-white dip. I wouldn't want to be in front of him at night, it would be a pain in the mirror.
Cheesing off drivers does not seem like a sensible strategy, so I've got my HID adjusted to point down quite a bit more than the halogen it replaced.
muppix
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Not sure I agree there; I've had a couple of Suzuki Bandits now and traded one in for my GS ... one of the first positive impressions was the headlight, so it's hard for me to understand how anyone could knock them. You lot must be used to your Volvo's too much.
Mup.
muppix
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I believe the key thing is that regular (and halogen) incandescent lamps also produce a significant amount of heat as part of their quoted power output, so a 50/55W halogen may, for arguments sake, produce 25W of light and 30W of heat. HID produce a lot less heat, so more of the power being drawn goes towards making light, which is how they're brighter.
I think you'd have a lot of fun trying to enforce that one or even implement it in MOT testing stations since trying to measure the colour temperature would be quite tricky due to the number of ambient factors which could affect the reading.
The powers that be have no doubt thought about some means of testing brightness now that HID use is quite widespread in most cars, but to be honest it costs most manufacturers a pretty penny in R&D as well as homologisation (sp?) that anything coming onto the market as OEM pretty much already ticks all the right boxes.
No point equipping the system with expensive new gadgets to measure light temperature and output levels when there's still enough people out there who can't adjust them properly.
Mup.
Not sure I agree there; I've had a couple of Suzuki Bandits now and traded one in for my GS ... one of the first positive impressions was the headlight, so it's hard for me to understand how anyone could knock them. You lot must be used to your Volvo's too much.
Mup.
You obviously ride too slow to worry about good lighting.......
Standard GS lights are pants at night.......rural roads you have to ride like a complete...
to be sure to see the road ahead......I'd use a candle because it is brighter but it would go out far too easily......
The Machine Cat
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Les installed yesterday a kit on my bike and I have a few things to say :
- Les is good at what he does. I mean REALLY good. He checks and checks again everything, does not mind taking back what he just installed because he thought of a better way to do it and so on. He even found a way to install my Reyno grill with his kit (he will post pictures on that). I was very impressed by the way he worked.
- The kit quality is excellent. Just by having a look at it you understand the difference between his kit and the cheapo ones you can find on ebay.
- The effect is amazing on cars, I have never seen that before. They actually part in front of you like by magic. I used to have a "flasher" on my older bike, I will not need it on this one ! On the top of it no one flashed at me, I guess that it means that he also did a good job in setting the lights position in my bike.
- Night riding will never be the same. Not only you can really see where you ride (it's almost like daylight), but you also see the "colors" of things (red is red, blue is blue, etc.)
In a few words, it's expensive but it is really worth it. I am thinking about organizing a fitting session in Paris , as no one does what he does at that quality level in my country...
- Les is good at what he does. I mean REALLY good. He checks and checks again everything, does not mind taking back what he just installed because he thought of a better way to do it and so on. He even found a way to install my Reyno grill with his kit (he will post pictures on that). I was very impressed by the way he worked.
- The kit quality is excellent. Just by having a look at it you understand the difference between his kit and the cheapo ones you can find on ebay.
- The effect is amazing on cars, I have never seen that before. They actually part in front of you like by magic. I used to have a "flasher" on my older bike, I will not need it on this one ! On the top of it no one flashed at me, I guess that it means that he also did a good job in setting the lights position in my bike.
- Night riding will never be the same. Not only you can really see where you ride (it's almost like daylight), but you also see the "colors" of things (red is red, blue is blue, etc.)
In a few words, it's expensive but it is really worth it. I am thinking about organizing a fitting session in Paris , as no one does what he does at that quality level in my country...
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