Yeah, used to be the solution, now the cause!
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.....and NOW it looks as though it also needs a new Clutch at 20k miles FFS!!!
I seriously wish I'd bought another XTZ1200 instead of this feckin Money Pit!!!
So...One Rebuilt FD and one new Complete Clutch later, it looks like we're about to be back on the Road.
Seems one of the two PO's had something of an "Unsympathetic" Riding Style!!
.....and NOW it looks as though it also needs a new Clutch at 20k miles FFS!!!
I seriously wish I'd bought another XTZ1200 instead of this feckin Money Pit!!!
my clutch let go 2 summers back - but oddly if you do a long run it fixes itself, the dealer said your rear main seal hasn't gone has it - and I think that's part of the fun - modern synthetic oils leak out of an older seal, whereas older mineral oil does it less so
so do 50 miles and its OK for another 6 months 3k miles, only do 10 mile runs it slips more and more
its age related designed to fail engineering - germany is sick - they want such high pay the only way its economically viable is to design it all to fail - convert the wealthy to a lease it trouble free life, and it keeps the bikes flying out of the door and then make additional profits stealing from the poor people keeping their junk running
this started with Merc in 1997 with BWM in the same place by 2003 and VW joining shortly after, ford and opel have been on the same page for 17 years and the Japanese started from 2018 -
of course the vehicle still exists - but its economically viable life span hits this timeline
car timeline
1990 to 2000 rust and a lack of maintenance wins (how many can you find?)
2000 to 2005 with maint should get 20 years (so long at its not from Stuttgart)
2007 to 2011 10 - 15 years
2012 to 2015 8 years
2019 5 years
BMW 2022 bikes about 18 months - but that's OK as you lease it for 2 years then its scrapped
Turns out it was nothing to do with the Seal or even Contamination of any kind.
The Pressure Plate was Bluing and the Friction Plate dry but badly Glazed.
Someone has been Slipping the Muther!!
I don't profess to know enough about German Economic Policies to be able to comment either for or against such a Claim, but I do know that a properly Used and Maintained Machine should last well in excess of 20k miles, regardless of its age...
unless everything was deliberately designed to fail to time... which it was - and they have been speeding up the process in 5 year increments
Hyundai have a 7 year warranty - yet nothing coming out of Germany offers more than 3 years (and the latest stuff is already failing by then)
Perhaps what you say is true, but my circumstances seem to have been exacerbated by some Hamfisted Knucklehead, treating a Bike with a Dry Clutch like some sort of Japanese Stunt Bike.
My 57 Plate had 50k miles on when it sold, was treated with respect and never missed a beat.
As you say anyone can ruin a good bike , pressure washers seem to do the most damage.
I had to change the clutch on an RT every 25K miles, it was an instructors bike being used around town most of the time so it was half expected.
My 2012 TC has done 83K miles original clutch and final drive. serviced every 6K miles , ridden with a pillion half the time. had a couple of fuel pumps but that`s it, would not swap it for an LC.
I had to change the clutch on an RT every 25K miles, it was an instructors bike being used around town most of the time so it was half expected.
My 2012 TC has done 83K miles original clutch and final drive. serviced every 6K miles , ridden with a pillion half the time. had a couple of fuel pumps but that`s it, would not swap it for an LC.
Likewise Chris, TC is as new as I would want to go with the Boxer.
It’s been a real kick in the nuts because I’ve only had the Bike a short time and it wasn’t a cheap and nasty example either.
Still, it is as it is and I’d like to think it’s properly sorted for many miles to come now.
Pleased it is now sorted Gary, hopefully many miles/years of reliable service ahead.
cheers mate, fingers crossed eh??
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