Why Pan Euros crash...

[skinnersscotch]

Since my little off on the Lindisfarne run I have been trying to work out just how I came to be lying on my side with a broken bike. I was visiting Dunfermline MotorCycles today for another reason (ordering my replacement helmet) when the young mechanic noticed the front left brake disc.

Suddenly it all became crystal clear what happened and why I went down the road the way I did.

Scarey though, it could have happened at anytime.

Maybe there is a dog!

I have also added a couple of pics of the 'other damage'.

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[Robbo1200ADV]

Blimey No warning prior to your off Who "maintains" your bike

 

[Deleted account rno]

Blimey No warning prior to your off Who "maintains" your bike

My guess would be nae **** but one things for certain, it isnaeTarka

 

[Paul Rochdale]

Judging by the rust and corrosion, nobody. What a state. My 1999 Pan is mint in comparison. Sorry to criticise but it had to be said.

 

[chablis]

I'm all for using your bike year round, but how about just a little TLC..

Seriously though, is there any suggestion that the front brake had been binding?. Any warping of the disc? and how does it's thickness compare to recommended minimum?

I guess you are lucky, the bike suddenly doing it's own emergency braking + speed + traffc does not bear thinking about. May I suggest a service?

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Blimey No warning prior to your off Who "maintains" your bike

Mmmmmmmmm, glad you're ok mate but those are my thoughts too - your disk looks a wee bit thin..........

Andres

 

[Deleted account rno]

After seeing the photos of that bike, is it any wonder that the Euro is only worth about a pound?

 

[Hebby]

What a mess

 

[Davy F]

Best shoot it and put the b@stard out of its misery.

 

[Mav]

Mmmmmmmmm, glad you're ok mate but those are my thoughts too - your disk looks a wee bit thin..........

Andres

Is the disc breaking like that the risk of having a disc that is too thin?

 

[JPR]

Since my little off on the Lindisfarne run I have been trying to work out just how I came to be lying on my side with a broken bike. I was visiting Dunfermline MotorCycles today for another reason (ordering my replacement helmet) when the young mechanic noticed the front left brake disc.

Suddenly it all became crystal clear what happened and why I went down the road the way I did.

Scarey though, it could have happened at anytime.

Maybe there is a dog!

I have also added a couple of pics of the 'other damage'.

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Who MOT,s It .?????????

 

[cherokee]

Mate that bike looks like you dug it out of a swamp,treating it like that im not surprised it tried to kill ya...............................

 

[Taff]

Blimey ... Who "maintains" your bike?

Errr ... Stevie Wonder.

Who MOT,s It ?????????

It has got an MOT hasn't it?

Seriously, if it has passed recently then somethings wrong surely.

 

[Dahoum]

My guess would be nae **** but one things for certain, it isnaeTarka

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[Denis Milne]

Got to agree SS.
The first thing you should have done after the accident, even before you went to hospital, was to clean off the salt and dirt.
Also it must be four weeks since the accident so you could have cleaned and polished the bike at least four more times.

 

[skinnersscotch]

The bike is never off the road, come hail or shine and is a commuting tool. It has to live outside by necessity. Yes it was looking a bit more cruddy than normal, something to do with not being touched for the past four weeks, living as it has at the garage, mostly outside.

Since the off I have only just started using my shoulder again (first drove on Wednesday) so cleaning the thing has not been an option.

There was no warping of the disc, or loss of braking power, at anytime and the crack can only have apeared that morning as I ahd ridden the thing from Fife before setting out on the run.

The bike's well within its current MOT and the disc is within Honda's tolerances.

 

[D6]

Is the disc breaking like that the risk of having a disc that is too thin?

yes, seen loads split when they are too thin, and that disc does look a bit thin,but judging by the marks on the disc it looks like you have no pads left??

 

[skinnersscotch]

Brakes were given a complete overhaul about 8 weeks ago, partly to get rid of the crud build up. The discs were nice and shiny and clean as you would expect from being cleaned by the pads during use. The discs were cehcked then and found to be well within the tolerances for Honda (the garage is authorised by Honda and can even supply new bikes). The calipers have been replaced in the past 8 months and new pads were fitted (front and back) then.

The discs are showing signs of rust mainly because the bike has been kept outside the dealers (except at night) since the accident. I have not been in a positon to clean them due to my injury and the fact that the bike is not at home.

There is corrosion within the crack of the disc, which may or may not have occurred since the accident. My experience with Japanese bikes (mostly Honda and most recently Pan Euros) is that they do rust very quickly unless protected.

The swing arm is waxoiled and shows no sign of corrosion. However, it is unwise to waxoil brake discs!

 

[skinnersscotch]

The point of the thread was not to show that the bike has had a low level of maintenance but to try and explain to the hardy souls who came on that run on a cold morning and assisted me so well, that the cause of the accident was due to a cracked brake disc, not to try and gets marks out of ten for bike maintenance.

At the end of the day we are none of us perfect.

 

[D6]

The point of the thread was not to show that the bike has had a low level of maintenance but to try and explain to the hardy souls who came on that run on a cold morning and assisted me so well, that the cause of the accident was due to a cracked brake disc, not to try and gets marks out of ten for bike maintenance.

At the end of the day we are none of us perfect.

you should have maybe explained the rust at the start...........