Why would I pay MRA money

I used MRA on my Wing for 2500 miles/10 days recently on an iPhone SE with a non-Apple battery.
The phone DID overheat twice but both times I had failed to switch the screen off on the phone, and the ambient air temp was 30+ C.
Apart from that it was fine.
Used MRA last year on Wing for a week /2000 miles and it never overheated .
Think it’s more down to the phone/battery/user than the app.
 
Following on from post #20. As I am now going away on my 1600, as opposed to my 450, I’ll be able to run three separate GPS devices simultaneously, all running the same routes. The three are:

A Garmin XT, running version 1.1 bespoke routes, created in MyRoute.

MyRoute’s Navigation app.

BMW’s own generic navigation.

It’ll be a fair work out, conducted over a thousand miles of usually fairly complicated routes.

All of the three devices will be powered by the bike, with two of the three also supplying voice instructions. I would like to have made all the audible but time has weighed against me. I have changed the voices, so I can tell which is which.

The XT will be set to have its recalculation function set to prompted, where my usual response is ‘no’. Both of the other two devices recalculate by default.

There is not much danger of overheating in this weather, whilst the 1600’s GPS cubbyhole has the benefit of its own cooling fan. What will be interesting is how the phone deals with the downpours, which will surely come its way.
 
I will be interested to hear how it goes and I hope you still have time to look at the road!
 
I will be interested to hear how it goes and I hope you still have time to look at the road!
By the way you can use a limited version of the Route planning aspect of MRA for free. It uses Open Street Maps. Might not be of much use for navigation but it would allow you to get familiar with the interface for creating routes before you take on a free trial.
 
I will be interested to hear how it goes and I hope you still have time to look at the road!

Day one (London to St Omer) completed.

At some point I’ll start a fresh thread with the results. But, as a taster, BMW’s Connected app did not do very well. So badly in fact, that I had to kill off the route it displayed, whilst on the move.

The XT performed perfectly and likewise MyRoute’s Navigation app. One very positive piece of news is that the Navigation app, running on an iPhone that’s powered by the bike, did not use any battery at all. The battery power was at 100% when I left home and 100% when I arrived in St Omer, a combined (moving) time of two and a half hours.

I’ll be running all three together again today, using a reasonably complicated bespoke route from St Omer across to the German border with Belgium at St Vith. It will be interesting to see if BMW’s app can redeem itself from yesterday’s very poor performance.

Scores so far, I’m being very fussy over the results:

XT 9 out of 10

MyRoute Navigation 8 out of 10

BMW Connected 2 out of 10

The one mark difference between the XT and Navigation is me being picky, nothing more. Likewise, the XT dropping one mark.
 
Days since….

For someone who has grown up with GPS devices, I can only say that the MyRoute Navigation app, running on a sacrificial iPhone, mounted on the excellent Peak Design mount thing, powered by the bike, has been tip-top.

Post in thread 'Joining a pre-made route, halfway along its length - How do you do it?'
https://www.ukgser.com/community/th...s-length-how-do-you-do-it.417041/post-5554022

Would I use it on my only phone? No. I am though more than happy to use it on my sacrificial phone.

Buy and use with absolute confidence.
 
When you say ‘sacrificial phone’ does it have a SIM card?
 
When you say ‘sacrificial phone’ does it have a SIM card?

No SIM card.

No music.

And very little else, other than downloaded map sets.

It is not ‘hot linked’ to my main phone or any of that old malarkey.

I have it connected directly to my Sena SRL 3, with male voice instructions. My XT is also connected directly to the SRL 3, with a female voice. I use male and female voices, simply so I can tell which device is ‘talking’ to me. The SRL 3 battery easily lasts all day.
 
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When you say ‘sacrificial phone’ does it have a SIM card?

it wouldn't need to if a) you download maps for the routes but miss out on traffic updates
or b) have your main phone in your pocket as a wifi hotspot, with the advantage of live traffic updates, weather etc
 
I do have a SIM card in the Android phone I use for the (next to useless) BMW Connected app, which I turn on from time to time. The data use, when the SIM is used all day, is negligible.
 
Over the past 6 weeks I’ve tried a load of different setups including Carpuride, Tabnav, connected ride holder on my 1250 GSA. But come back to pretty much what you have.

The iPhone sits on a shock absorber Quadlock mount in place of the BMW Nav holder, the Garmin (in my case a 700i) sits on the bars.

Good tip on different voices, I’ll give that a try.

I also have Waze running in the background so I get speed camera and police warnings too.
 
I’ve had a look at MRA and it seems quite good, I like the track log feature but would like to know more before I subscribe. I’ve just sorted out a decent mount for the phone on the bike (Peak Design) and I’m now looking for a good navigation app.

For the first time in about 35 years, I went abroad without at least a GPS device, riding 700 miles along the D roads of France, Belgium and Luxembourg, using nothing more than the MyRoute app running on a bike powered sacrificial waterproof iPhone 15 (with no SIM card, so zero data usage) fixed to a Peak Design mount.

The phone / app behaved perfectly. Any errors I made were of my own making, right at the start when I hadn’t got used to the display and one when I somehow overode the clear app’s clear instruction and rode towards Calais, when of course I needed to ride towards Reims. No excusing that one!

Upsides:

The phone stayed fully charged.

Placing shaping points every five kilometres (three miles) as recommended by MyRoute for bespoke routes, helped me to reset a bespoke route and navigate around a large road closure.

Route recalculation was quick and pretty much reliable. As with any dumb (but really pretty clever)) device, you do have to say to yourself “No! I am NOT going down that forest fire trail goat track, thank you very much”.

The new and improved integration between MyRoute’s Navigation app and MyRoute’s cloud based RoutePlanner worked well.

The downloaded maps and routes, all worked well.

Roundabout instructions were clear, MyRoute having sorted out the previous problem, caused by its integration with HERE msps.

The phone did not suffer in some persistent drizzle but I did not encounter any all day lashing down rain, so the jury is still out on that one.

The voice directions were clear, though not as loud as those from my Garmin device.

I didn’t run any music or take phone calls on the move, not least as I never do.

The Peak Design mount was damped enough, to stop the phone jiggling around too much. I was never worried that the phone (housed in a Peak Design case) was about to fly off.

Downsides:

Sometimes the phone’s screen would not respond to my finger touches. This made zooming in and out on the move, a hit-and-miss affair.

The cursor position sometimes lagged behind my actual position on the road. Occasionally it would leap forward, just as I got to a small country road turn off.

Sometimes, when putting the phone onto the mount, I pressed on the phone’s volume button, reducing it.

Conclusion:

1. MyRoute have made a good job of it and, most importantly, ironed out the wrinkles (particularly the power demand) that had troubled earlier versions of the app.

2. Whether heavy and persistent rain affects the phone, with the water hitting the screen being interpreted as finger touches, I don’t yet know.

3. I still like the rugged independence and overall reliability of a modern Garmin device. It’s very reliable touch screen is one clear advantage. One linked to a bike’s ’wonder wheel’ thing is even better.

4. Would I use a phone that was not sacrificial? No.

5. Is having a SIM card in the phone a must? No. There again, data useage if you do have one installed and active is pretty minimal.

6. For some uses, MyRoute does require an internet connection. This is no big deal in Western Europe, which is awash with free WiFi.

7. Peak Design’s bike mount requires the phone to be powered via a flying lead, plugged into the phone itself. They will be bringing out a powered (wireless charging) motorcycle mount later this year or early next. I may well upgrade to one, not least as their non-waterproof car wireless charging mount does work well.
 
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Good morning all,

I’ve been looking for a better way to plan rides, and one of my key criteria was to be able to build a route out from home in steps (as you can on O/S mapping), using the smaller roads I want to explore. I also wanted to move away from using a separate SatNav devices and move to a phone based system.

I have formally been a Garmin and O/S mapping user for sometime (mainly for off-road routes), and have also dabbled with Beeline a bit, but couldn’t really get one system to work in a way that I wanted across both road and off-road scenarios.

Having looked at the excellent threads on here, I decided to give MRA a go and so subscribed on a lifetime membership deal to the App and the Routeplanner package.

So far I am pretty impressed. Following the advice from Richard on another thread, I initially put together a short circular route of 20 miles on my i-pad building outwards from near my home using way points. It only took a few minutes to put together and everything worked exactly as planned on my i-phone when I used it, with clear turn by turn directions and verbal back up.

Yesterday I got the App to build me a scenic circular route of 100 miles. I then edited this to take out a couple of odd points, but pretty much left everything as the algorithm dictated. I then went out for a ride and have to say the suggested route was absolutely brilliant, taking me along some of the lesser known and used roads in the Chilterns.

I did experience a couple of glitches, for example when the auto generated way point was just off a roundabout by 200 metres, but then the route stopped, requiring a U-turn, but these were pretty minor and now I know what to look for can correct in future. The only other negative I have discovered is that the App seems to require a lot of power to run on the phone. I only have a powered phone mount on the RKS, but was out on the Hunter Cub yesterday which just has a normal Quad Lock mount. My phone lasted about 2 hours from full charge before it went into low power mode. Fortunately I have a charging point and cable so it was an easy fix, but just something to be aware of in the future.

So overall very impressed with how easy it is to build and edit routes and then follow them. I will now be spending some further time getting to know the nuances of the system, and reading through the technical advice on here. Thanks to all who have contributed with help and advice on this forum, your feedback was a major part of my decision to try out MRA in the first place!
 
Excellent and thanks for the feedback.

Yes, the autogenerated points, whether through the app’s route creation function and / or the ‘expand’ function do need to be checked and moved if necessary. It’s always best practice to check any route before use, even if you have created the route yourself. If you encounter the U-turn or crazy directions problem for a badly placed point, try out the ‘skip’ function.

Yes, too, the app is a bit power hungry, though it is much better than it was. Always try to use the app on a vehicle powered phone, when it should stay at 100% all day. Failing that, maybe connect the phone to a power brick thing, if possible.

I still use a sacrificial phone for navigation. But that’s just me.
 
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Cant work my phone and MRA out, went around europe for a few days using app phone stayed more or less fully charged plugged into bike, been out a few times since I have been back no settings changed and sometimes the app manages to flatten the battery in about 6hrs
 
MRA is excellent for route planning.
switching maps from your Garmin or Tomtom to google and back is easy and it has some handy tools that make short work of long routes.
sharing said route with a friend is easy, specially if they are on MRA too, if not you can email the GPX file.

How you then navigate your route is optional.
I still load it into my BMW Garmin, but I have just used the phone app and liked it too.

like many, I bought the gold lifetime which is a good option, a decision I don't regret.

As for battery drainage, for me at least its no worse than using google maps.
battery drainage is expected, which is why on all day rides I put the gpx file in my dedicated GPS
 


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