Wizards from A Bike Thing

[RichardD]

Well that did't take long to put the rear set on
Rear tail light was a bit fiddly and tight for my sausage fingers but as the video I linked earlier, using 2 small flat blade screw drivers and wiggle it out
Indicators dead easy
Now got 3 rear / brake lights now and the indicators shut off the rear / braking light when indicating
Just had a look at the MOT inspection regs and it states one or 2 position lamps, no mention of additional, however you can have additional stop lamps

A solo motorcycle can have one or two front and rear position lamps.

These lamps must be:

• mounted centrally - if there’s one lamp
• mounted one above the other on the centre line - if there’s 2 lamps
• mounted symmetrical about the centre line - if 2 are mounted side by side

Front and rear position lamps can be incorporated with the direction indicator lamps. The position lamp on the same side of the direction indicator may or may not switch off when the indicator is switched on.
and
Motorcycles, with or without a sidecar, can have one or two stop lamps.

Additional stop lamps, over and above the requirements, must be tested. However, if you are not certain that they are connected, you should give the benefit of this doubt.

I'll not tell the lads I ride out with an see if they comment....2 have GS's

If anything, the fronts are even easier, although more panels have to be removed. The video is excellent I have to say - and makes it really easy.

I have the same plan about waiting to see if any of my mates notice - having moaned about the previous setup. They probably won't notice the difference.

 

[Victor c]

Well that did't take long to put the rear set on
Rear tail light was a bit fiddly and tight for my sausage fingers but as the video I linked earlier, using 2 small flat blade screw drivers and wiggle it out
Indicators dead easy
Now got 3 rear / brake lights now and the indicators shut off the rear / braking light when indicating
Just had a look at the MOT inspection regs and it states one or 2 position lamps, no mention of additional, however you can have additional stop lamps

A solo motorcycle can have one or two front and rear position lamps.

These lamps must be:

• mounted centrally - if there’s one lamp
• mounted one above the other on the centre line - if there’s 2 lamps
• mounted symmetrical about the centre line - if 2 are mounted side by side

Front and rear position lamps can be incorporated with the direction indicator lamps. The position lamp on the same side of the direction indicator may or may not switch off when the indicator is switched on.
and
Motorcycles, with or without a sidecar, can have one or two stop lamps.

Additional stop lamps, over and above the requirements, must be tested. However, if you are not certain that they are connected, you should give the benefit of this doubt.

I'll not tell the lads I ride out with an see if they comment....2 have GS's

Nice one. I’m also considering just the rears.

 

[ShakeyGS]

Got a set for my birthday from my wife and I'm really pleased with the transformation.

Just to be clear, with the centre rear light wizard fitted too, it switches it back on as a tail light. It also continues to operate as a brake light. The indicator function remains the same except that when you indicate, the red portion switches off.

Money well spent in my book.

 

[littleade]

The problem as far as I can see is that for the rear the red brake and side lights are too close together both in distance and on the light spectrum to the orange indicators so at a glance which is what most people do if we're lucky is they just see a single light source. Why the fcukwits at the mothership decided this was a good idea is beyond me. Having distance between the lights and indicators has worked for decades so why change something when it wasn't broken in the first place.

 

[littleade]

I’d have thought with the easy and affordable availability of intercom there would be no need to be looking in mirrors for signal indications of directions; rather luddite of the "UK's leading road safety charity and advocate, helping to improve..... riding skills through courses and coaching".

I could never understand this either. I did my IAM car course and test in 2013 and the observer/examiner was sat beside me and gave good instructions on where they wanted me to go so I could plan ahead accordingly. The group I took my Bike course and test didn't have anything to do with this secret mission/look in your mirrors to see where we're going bollocks. They used published routes and the observer confirmed the route before you set out which worked a treat. It was the same on test. I asked the examiner about it and he said the route he used was that varied and with different traffic situations, road conditions and the weather it never rode the same twice anyway and that riding on roads you were unfamiliar with was masters level anyway. I did a couple of bike courses with Mike Waite back in the late 90's and he was using a 1 way intercom then, yet it's still common practice in the IAM 25 years later to use this archaic practice of the observers/examinters indicators for direction so associates spend more time looking in their mirrors than they need to. It's bonkers

 

[LockieP]

I’ve recently fitted the Weiser kit & the tail light module. Bought it all from a member of this forum. The video made things easy although the panels can be fiddly. The lights are very bright! I was a little concerned that the front DRL’s would be annoying to other Road users but I’ve had them fitted for a few weeks now & haven’t been flashed so I’m guessing they’re ok.

 

[ShakeyGS]

I could never understand this either. I did my IAM car course and test in 2013 and the observer/examiner was sat beside me and gave good instructions on where they wanted me to go so I could plan ahead accordingly. The group I took my Bike course and test didn't have anything to do with this secret mission/look in your mirrors to see where we're going bollocks. They used published routes and the observer confirmed the route before you set out which worked a treat. It was the same on test. I asked the examiner about it and he said the route he used was that varied and with different traffic situations, road conditions and the weather it never rode the same twice anyway and that riding on roads you were unfamiliar with was masters level anyway. I did a couple of bike courses with Mike Waite back in the late 90's and he was using a 1 way intercom then, yet it's still common practice in the IAM 25 years later to use this archaic practice of the observers/examinters indicators for direction so associates spend more time looking in their mirrors than they need to. It's bonkers

Bone of contention for me too but none of our examiners use comms so we have to use this method eventually.

A counter argument might be that as you pass an "Advance Direction Sign", a mirror check of the rear of your safety bubble is a good idea in case something happens as you cross the junction or roundabout or whatever. It's also a good place to check if your observer or examiner is giving you a direction change. At the end of the day, if you miss a signal (or your observer thinks he's indicating when he isn't ahem, hem ) then it's not the end of the world. Advanced riding is not about navigation.

 

[resovoir]

After feedback from biking friends, I fitted the wizards front back and tail light. They all said it helped and I feel safer. Never trust a car driver who does not also ride a bike.

 

[ilkleymoron]

I could never understand this either. I did my IAM car course and test in 2013 and the observer/examiner was sat beside me and gave good instructions on where they wanted me to go so I could plan ahead accordingly. The group I took my Bike course and test didn't have anything to do with this secret mission/look in your mirrors to see where we're going bollocks. They used published routes and the observer confirmed the route before you set out which worked a treat. It was the same on test. I asked the examiner about it and he said the route he used was that varied and with different traffic situations, road conditions and the weather it never rode the same twice anyway and that riding on roads you were unfamiliar with was masters level anyway. I did a couple of bike courses with Mike Waite back in the late 90's and he was using a 1 way intercom then, yet it's still common practice in the IAM 25 years later to use this archaic practice of the observers/examinters indicators for direction so associates spend more time looking in their mirrors than they need to. It's bonkers

Mike Waite

there's a name from the past, i found some of his videos on an old web site of his

not sure of they are still around

 

[littleade]

Mike Waite

there's a name from the past, i found some of his videos on an old web site of his

not sure of they are still around

Mike had retired from the Police when I did those courses with him so I think it unlikely he's still instructing, assuming he's even still with us. Great bloke with a wicked sense of humour