World Crosser Kit Now Available
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illustratedman
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Must be true then as it's on the websites, It's just that the gsa feels heavier when you are on it maybe thats where rasher drew his conclusion from.
I tried a friend's 2008 GSA. It felt much more top heavy and unwieldy than my Super Tenere just lifting it off the side stand and the feeling remained at low speeds, doing u-turns, etc. Next tried a friend's standard 12GS. Very similar in feeling to the S10. Chalked the GSA's feeling to its huge tank and taller suspension.
The Yamaha does carry the weight a lot lower than the GS which has the engine much higher, this gives it a lighter feel than a 250kg spec sheet suggests.
The BMW quoted weights tend to be very low, never include any accessories and even then seem suspect. Some yank stuck a whole load of ADV bikes on a weighbridge and the Yamaha was only a couple of kg over the manufacturers claim if you exclude the weight of fuel.
GS and GSA's tended to be about 20kg over brochure weight, I think ABS adds about 6-7kg on most bikes, the bigger clocks (On board computer) ESA gubbins, tyre pressure sensors, TC electronics and sensors all add up, probably to another 15KG all in, and if the claimed weight is dry manufacturers often remove the battery as well.
The big stock GS is definately a bit lighter, but the GSA is about the same weight, and carries even more up top, especially with a full tank.
I still prefer the handling of a stock GS over a stock Tenere on good smooth dry roads, but prefer the Tenere over the GSA, in bad conditions I prefer the Tenere as it is far more stable.
Anyway back to the subject I am going to order the WC sticker set at the weekend, the part number is:-
23PF17C0U000 (Red)
23PF17C0V000 (Yellow)
About £65 in foreign regions so if the UK price is over £75 will order from abroad.
Ban_6
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Ya know what Rasher, I still aint put the crosser kit on fully. Ive only added in the name logo & couple of small bits. So lazy but the weather has been pretty sh1t & its been too cold to get them sticking. Heopfully it will warm up soon enough.
Look forward to pics when you get them on.
Look forward to pics when you get them on.
If I put them on they will be a wobbly mess, gonna take them to my mates bodyshop for a professional fit and finish, he has an eye for this sort of thing.
Ordered today 
Dunno quite what will arrive as the internet has lots of WC pictures and the decals are different in many of them, I think some where Yamaha show bikes that differed from production, and maybe different regions have variations, plus I think other companies are now offering WC sticker kits.
Good video here of a kit:-
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Xk3HAMXGQbU?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Not so keen on the sticker over the screen, but like the tank stripes and exhaust cover stickers, wheel tape and swingarm ones look good too, but I can't see them staying good for years to come.
Undecided on the ones that sit in front of your knees, may just put some clear plastic protective film there on mine. Also want to be careful that nothing will end up a different shade underneath if I later try and remove them.
Looks fair value @ £50
Dunno quite what will arrive as the internet has lots of WC pictures and the decals are different in many of them, I think some where Yamaha show bikes that differed from production, and maybe different regions have variations, plus I think other companies are now offering WC sticker kits.
Good video here of a kit:-
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Xk3HAMXGQbU?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Not so keen on the sticker over the screen, but like the tank stripes and exhaust cover stickers, wheel tape and swingarm ones look good too, but I can't see them staying good for years to come.
Undecided on the ones that sit in front of your knees, may just put some clear plastic protective film there on mine. Also want to be careful that nothing will end up a different shade underneath if I later try and remove them.
Looks fair value @ £50
Kits arrived at dealers 
Hope to get down on Saturday, I can test out my Tony Archer seats which came back yesterday and my Heated Grip mod all at the same time
Hope to get down on Saturday, I can test out my Tony Archer seats which came back yesterday and my Heated Grip mod all at the same time
Picked up kit, I have different stickers to ones shown in video.
Mine has the same tank sticker, but not the speed blocks for going next to the badge, I have a "Super Tenere" sticker to go here instead, with a sticker to go above it with the weird logo and the speed block start.
Looking around there is definately some different stickers around, and it looks like some people / dealers have stuck different combintions on, and sometimes in slightly different places with the tank stickers.
Need it a bit warmer to stick them on, but will hopefully be able to throw the whole bike in my mates paintshop oven to avoid waiting until the one day of summer.
Mine has the same tank sticker, but not the speed blocks for going next to the badge, I have a "Super Tenere" sticker to go here instead, with a sticker to go above it with the weird logo and the speed block start.
Looking around there is definately some different stickers around, and it looks like some people / dealers have stuck different combintions on, and sometimes in slightly different places with the tank stickers.
Need it a bit warmer to stick them on, but will hopefully be able to throw the whole bike in my mates paintshop oven to avoid waiting until the one day of summer.
Scuff
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Yellow WC Decal kit on black
Here is the yellow World Crosser decal kit on my black S10. I paid £50 for it from a dealer in Ireland. I had to remove the red sticker either side of the front fairing. I like the effect, I think the colours work well together, and Yamaha don't make this colour combination.
Here is the yellow World Crosser decal kit on my black S10. I paid £50 for it from a dealer in Ireland. I had to remove the red sticker either side of the front fairing. I like the effect, I think the colours work well together, and Yamaha don't make this colour combination.
Mike
The XTZ12 looks a really 'busy' bike, with loads of bits here and there etc
In reality......... is it easy to keep clean (knowing you're a polisher
) in compariosn to your 1150 or 1200GS?
They do look good though - are they reliable too?
The XTZ12 looks a really 'busy' bike, with loads of bits here and there etc
In reality......... is it easy to keep clean (knowing you're a polisher
) in compariosn to your 1150 or 1200GS?They do look good though - are they reliable too?
No one has broke one yet to my knowledge and that includes the SA/Aussies/Yanks on Adv Rider
Me, a polisher!
Except for the front wheel which is a sod due to the spoke mounting system its probably easier to keep clean than a GS as the lines are smoother.
As for reliability see here:-
http://supertenere1200.com......halfway down page 2, Nick Sanders 50k strip down
I only did 9.5k on my previous S10 including a trip down to Bosnia but no problems what so ever. Having said that, I've not had any major problems with my GSes over the years.
Mike
Except for the front wheel which is a sod due to the spoke mounting system its probably easier to keep clean than a GS as the lines are smoother.
As for reliability see here:-
http://supertenere1200.com......halfway down page 2, Nick Sanders 50k strip down
I only did 9.5k on my previous S10 including a trip down to Bosnia but no problems what so ever. Having said that, I've not had any major problems with my GSes over the years.
Mike
In reality......... is it easy to keep clean (knowing you're a polisher
They do look good though - are they reliable too?
Not found much in the way of problems on any forums, some moan about spokes corroding and a couple of leaky fork seals - not bad for 3+ years from launch.
I reckon they are just as easy / difficult to clean as my old 1200GS, similar amount of nooks and crannies IMO, maybe a shade easier as the GS Pots used to take some work - but this is offset by the spoked wheels I now have to clean.
If my spokes eventually crud up I will just swap them for some stainless.
Still not got around to fitting the WC stickers, but now the weather is warmer I may get around to it soon.
So, it's a better bike in your opinion
More reliable, just as easy to clean and similar if not better corrosion resistance
How about grunt and performance?
Another major plus, is that they're not very common
..........whereas every dog and his dick has got a 1200GS/GSA and now a 12GS WC 
Depends really, I certainly have more faith in the Yamaha than I would in a GS, but many swear the GS is the most reliable bike ever built
Overall they are very similar, I have ridden the Twin Cam back to back with the Super Tenere, and obviously have had time to compare the Tenere to my old 2008GS.
I have also done almost exactly the same mods, Wilburs Suspension, Tony Archer Seats, de-cat headers.
The Yamaha is smoother with a more linear delivery and more low-mid range, and the DOHC GS has a bit more top end and "character" (or vibes if you do not believe in character)
The Traction Control is far better than the old Aircooled GS rubbish ON / OF / ON power sensation, really smooth and it is hard to detect when it cuts in most of the time.
I prefer the ride quality of the forks and rising rate shock, but miss the lack of dive of Telelever front.
The Yamaha feels better (lighter and more easily manouvred) at low speed, but the GS definately turns quicker at high speed, but the Yamaha gives more feedback from the tyres.
Riding position is almost identical, as is comfort, but the Tenere is far more relaxed at speed due to less vibes, it feels effortless at a ton where the GS feels a bit hurried.
MPG is probably better on the GS at low speed (say sub 60mph) and better on the Yamaha at high speed (80mph motorway cruising)
The Yamaha's clocks give more information - which is just as well as the bloody buttons are a stretch to reach, and the BMW heated grips are much better.
So different, yet so similar.
The new GS and KTM are now playing with the Explorer and look more like Sports Tourers in Adventure clothing, and I am sure both would blast the Yamaha on fast roads if your thrashing them.
In fact I would probably choose the old BMW over the new one if I had to ride a GS
Scuff
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My last few bikes have been BMW's and I do like them, despite riding them for a living for many years.
It was a tough decision between the 1200GS, the Triumph Explorer or the Yamaha. All have their virtues, but I went for the Yamaha in the end for the reliability, plus I got a stonking deal on a new one. I am absolutely sure in my own mind that I made the right decision. On paper it may be the slowest, but rider skill and experience is not often taken into account, besides, if I wanted out and out performance I would have gone elsewhere.
The bike is such a good all rounder, comfy, long legged with plenty of farkle potential. The traction control is excellent as are the linked ABS brakes. The build quality feels great and its nice to have something different.
It was a tough decision between the 1200GS, the Triumph Explorer or the Yamaha. All have their virtues, but I went for the Yamaha in the end for the reliability, plus I got a stonking deal on a new one. I am absolutely sure in my own mind that I made the right decision. On paper it may be the slowest, but rider skill and experience is not often taken into account, besides, if I wanted out and out performance I would have gone elsewhere.
The bike is such a good all rounder, comfy, long legged with plenty of farkle potential. The traction control is excellent as are the linked ABS brakes. The build quality feels great and its nice to have something different.
+1
More attractive to those looking to keep a bike for many years, than those who just want the "latest and greatest" every other season.
Hope you like yours as much as I like mine.
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