Write To Ride

[Uncle T]

A bit of a pre launch to get the message out of a new riders' rights organisation which will eventually be fully based in Northern Ireland.

Once we get this house move on the way........................

The website www.writetoride.co.uk explains all about it/us.

Also the first campaign - Against the blatant discrimination of all riders, depicting us as dishonest people at the Russell's - Shop 4 U - JET petrol station - Donaghadee Road - Newtownards.

Cheers

Uncle T

 

[Ogmios]

ahhh - found ya!

the site looks good.
i'd recommend we all have a look.
this is a good beginning.
...and bump.

~~
Og - a lurking Mexican.

 

[the civil one]

ahhh - found ya!

the site looks good.
i'd recommend we all have a look.
this is a good beginning.
...and bump.

~~
Og - a lurking Mexican.

Og ,, Could you tell me What is Good about trying to persecute a guy that is tryin to protect his livelihood. Thats just an ordinary fella tryin his best with what he has. He needs something like this like a hole in the head. If these were to try an tackel a forcourt that i owned in this manner , we would be lookin at each other from the inside of a court room.
I read the Blurb and i have to say i am disgusted.
There is nothing in there for any ordinary decent motorcyclist.
With any sense of "Right ".
I didnt register my disgust ,when i first read this ,, in the hope that it would fade into the Gutter . Where it belongs.

 

[essjay]

Tell you what would sort all this shite out is if each pump had a credit card terminal like in the USA. No arsing about in the shop then.

The petrol station by me in Crumlin has a sign up. It's a complete pain in the arse but I'm sure it's there for a reason. IE. Little scrotes filling up bikes and not paying.

 

[Mandylicious]

The petrol station in our village and all stations in Newry are all pay in advance for fuel for all vehicles. Maybe the owner in Newtownards would have been better advised to go this route

Either way he was trying to protect his business I suppose.

 

[electric_monk]

Imagine going into Dunnes stores and being asked to stump up your money before getting into the store because they have a shoplifting problem....do you think the general public would accept this ....No Feckin Way

So why should any motorist(car or bike) have to put up with this, filling station owners are making a killing out of us on a daily basis.

Any station that requests me to pay first OR take my helmet off does not get my business. I have left garage forecourts in the early hours of the morning running on fumes because of this.

 

[the civil one]

Imagine going into Dunnes stores and being asked to stump up your money before getting into the store because they have a shoplifting problem....do you think the general public would accept this ....No Feckin Way

So why should any motorist(car or bike) have to put up with this, filling station owners are making a killing out of us on a daily basis.

Any station that requests me to pay first OR take my helmet off does not get my business. I have left garage forecourts in the early hours of the morning running on fumes because of this.

Alas , I have shot myself in the foot ...... Again.
Dunnes Stores is an altogether different story , and i see absloutely no similarity at all. In Dunnes Stores , it would be fairly difficult to Load up and Run. Doors ,,Security cameras , and the shops set up . Dunnes Stores on the other hand could well afford to have an odd runner ! 100% Mark up on some items.....
The Wee Boy at the petrol station on the other hand has in an about
6 cpl in the republic. that equates to 24c a Gallon , with the average motor holding 10 gallon {45/50 litres} , so on a fill he has Eur2.40 not that much.
If you were to take it in another light as in his Return on the Capital employed to provide this ,,,its Simply Ludicrious. Its a Pittance, hence the measures he has to take to protect his living.. If these guys didnt have the Shop Take , they wouldnt be there. Simple.
I as you know am as keen a Motorcyclist as any .... Never , And i have been to a few Places have i encountered any problems in either getting fuel or being asked to take my helmet off . I may have paid up front on an occasion , but i intended to pay anyway , so i didnt see a problem.
This type of Shite in the Name of motorcycling is sickening ,to say the very least , and to think that someone might equate me to the likes of this ,,
persecution of the "ordinary " man is even more so.

Maybe you have too much time on yer hands , and instead of Crap like this you should try to better yourself and leave the Working man to do his thing . For himself and his family.

 

[frank1200]

Alas , I have shot myself in the foot ...... Again.
Dunnes Stores is an altogether different story , and i see absloutely no similarity at all. In Dunnes Stores , it would be fairly difficult to Load up and Run. Doors ,,Security cameras , and the shops set up . Dunnes Stores on the other hand could well afford to have an odd runner ! 100% Mark up on some items.....
The Wee Boy at the petrol station on the other hand has in an about
6 cpl in the republic. that equates to 24c a Gallon , with the average motor holding 10 gallon {45/50 litres} , so on a fill he has Eur2.40 not that much.
If you were to take it in another light as in his Return on the Capital employed to provide this ,,,its Simply Ludicrious. Its a Pittance, hence the measures he has to take to protect his living.. If these guys didnt have the Shop Take , they wouldnt be there. Simple.
I as you know am as keen a Motorcyclist as any .... Never , And i have been to a few Places have i encountered any problems in either getting fuel or being asked to take my helmet off . I may have paid up front on an occasion , but i intended to pay anyway , so i didnt see a problem.
This type of Shite in the Name of motorcycling is sickening ,to say the very least , and to think that someone might equate me to the likes of this ,,
persecution of the "ordinary " man is even more so.

Maybe you have too much time on yer hands , and instead of Crap like this you should try to better yourself and leave the Working man to do his thing . For himself and his family.

i have a filling station and i can confirm that no one in the country is making "a killing" selling petrol or diesel
civils comment of 6cpl is at the upper end of the scale if you operate in a competitive area.(there are 7 petrol stations in my smallish town)
while i do not agree with the signs in question there has to be a reason for them as i do not think any business person would wake up in the morning and say which customers will i p**s off today.
i like and encourage bikers to come to my station so i can have a chat and look at the bikes
i have had problems with drive off with certain members of the community but never bikers.
just to end off there has to be to sides to every story

 

[(RIP) Bin Ridin]

I got petrol in Castlebridge today at 99.9Cpl and they have signs up saying "Smile, you are on the camera!"
Is this a record?

BTW, I am sure people who insist on prepayment do it because they have been ripped off and it is annoying but hard to blame them. 100% SOP in Russia.

"You hit us, we hit you"...

 

[Ogmios]

Og ,, Could you tell me What is Good about trying to persecute a guy that is tryin to protect his livelihood.

Civil,
this is the bit thats good;

the site looks good.
i'd recommend we all have a look.
this is a good beginning.

while i support the work of e.g; MAG U.K.
**This is a new and Active Riders rights group up North.**

taking the one single minor point you raise from the entire website
i've worked in a petrol station myself.
i see both sides of the issue.
i see nothing worthy of comment here - the issues been dealt with...
with assistance / rider representation from http://www.writetoride.co.uk/

 

[Aidan1150]

I'm not sure I like their modus operandi nor their attitude so they won't have my name on their membership list.

 

[Grazoid]

Nobody ever heard the expression divide and conquer ?


MAG UK members in NI struggled hard to establish communication with those in power on all sides of the divide; all through the Troubles they kept on going and managed to gain respect for their aims.

If those who want to defend Riders Rights' had joined MAG and carried the fight forward with an already respected AND listened to organisation I would have more respect for them.

This lot will be treated as what they are looking like to outsiders ... another knee jerk green biro written letters brigade to be ignored. This is just what the politicos want.

I have had experience with them playing MAG off against the BMF in the UK at County Council level. To the point where there was friction between the representatives of the two orgs, until we sat down and realised their game, then went back into negotiations with a unified front.

So why reinvent the wheel join in with the all ready established and leading Riders Rights' groups, and use their 30 plus years of established contacts and political clout to get things sorted.

 

[Uncle T]

We were contacted by the ordinary decent motorcyclist.

This is a beginning.

A lot of riders have issues with petrol stations pre payment and helments some don't.

This has started a dialogue behind the scenes with petrol "providers".

frank1200 - "there has to be to sides to every story."

bin ridin - " I am sure people who insist on prepayment do it because they have been ripped off and it is annoying but hard to blame them."

This is not our main issue.

E.G. "An unforgiving road infrastructure that is not designed or maintained with motorcycles in mind, crash barriers that are not motorcycle friendly– including wire rope barriers (Start of the use of wirerope barriers in Northern Ireland?) – slippery manhole covers, bad repairs, diesel spills."

We would love your support, or join one the main riders groups (MAG UK - MAG Ireland - BMF), we don't purport to represent all riders.

We will listen to all views.

Write To Ride - "..............with the backing of individual riders, clubs, trainers and anybody else who cares enough."

You don't have to agree.

the civil one - "This type of Shite in the Name of motorcycling is sickening ,to say the very least.............."

What is the option for representation.

Do you want or need representation?

the civil one - "instead of Crap like this you should try to better yourself and leave the Working man to do his thing . For himself and his family."

 

[Grazoid]

Okay I give in done some reading of the site .... Trevor B why the hell not kickstart MAG NI back to the level it once was before you left instead of doing something you know causes friction .... this is no time to be a Splitter!

 

[Aidan1150]

We were contacted by the ordinary decent motorcyclist.

And why not write a letter to the filling station owners before hyping up a big protest rideout? When, as it turned out a letter was all it took to get the matter sorted anyway.

What is the option for representation.

Do you want or need representation?

I think that the last thing we need is some pushy organisation from across the water trying to herd motorcyclists over here towards their own agenda.

 

[Uncle T]

Dunnes Stores is an altogether different story , and i see absloutely no similarity at all. In Dunnes Stores , it would be fairly difficult to Load up and Run. Doors ,,Security cameras , and the shops set up . Dunnes Stores on the other hand could well afford to have an odd runner ! 100% Mark up on some items.....

A Tescos last week - bloke makes off with £100 worth of meat - in his car - loaded up and running - nearly taking three cars out in the process - including myself - doors - security - running across the car park - security cameras - made no differnence.

Tesco has 2,109 stores, one hit like this a week costs at retail price of £210,900 not great on the grand scale of their profits of £532 million per year after tax.

Can the store afford this "odd runner" - an excuse for a mark up passed onto us the customer?

 

[the celt]

all through the Troubles they kept on going and managed to gain respect for their aims.

Did they decommission ???

 

[Grazoid]

Did they decommission ???

Evidently so ... looks like from activity into apathy

 

[the celt]

Evidently so ... looks like from activity into apathy

Dont worry.... apparently all those involved in
the peace process got a petrol allowance for
travelling expenses....

 

[Uncle T]

Okay I give in done some reading of the site .... Trevor B why the hell not kickstart MAG NI back to the level it once was before you left instead of doing something you know causes friction .... this is no time to be a Splitter!

A splitter Grazoid/Scouse

We will work with anybody to provide a united front.

After being the MAG UK Northern Ireland regional rep for 5 years, then on the board of MAG UK then employed as Director Of Public Affairs/General Secretary, Representative at FEMA and finally representing FEMA at the United Nations on Global issues, I hopefully have the experience to work with everybody and welcome discussions with the BMF and MAG UK which I am a member of both.

We are not out to take membership from MAG or the BMF, because there is no membership.

Graziod - " MAG UK members in NI struggled hard to establish communication with those in power on all sides of the divide; all through the Troubles they kept on going and managed to gain respect for their aims."

Err that was me, when the first peace process started it was me and dedicated others who went to meet the political parties from across the divide, on dark and dangerous nights.

Adian1150 - " I think that the last thing we need is some pushy organisation from across the water trying to herd motorcyclists over here towards their own agenda."

Err born and bred in Belfast and Write To Ride is based in Northern Ireland - house move on the way to get back from across the water because this is my home and where I belong.

Our own agenda? All organisations have their own agenda but as the website says:

At “Write To Ride” we would love to know what your views are and we will publish them here - even if you don’t agree!

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