Xeon bulbs
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Gonzo
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Depends what make and how much they are. These look like they have enough blue to be the cosmetic fashion bulbs.
If you' re going to spend upwards of say £15 a pair, I'd be tempted top go for the Philips Extreme which claim +80%. Try http://www.autobulbsonline.co.uk/#Anchor_Philips_Xtreme
Haven't tried them but their +50% bulbs are pretty good and don't take too much of the light away by trying to tint it blue a la the Max Power brigade.
If you' re going to spend upwards of say £15 a pair, I'd be tempted top go for the Philips Extreme which claim +80%. Try http://www.autobulbsonline.co.uk/#Anchor_Philips_Xtreme
Haven't tried them but their +50% bulbs are pretty good and don't take too much of the light away by trying to tint it blue a la the Max Power brigade.
Davy F
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I fitted the Phillips GT150 bulbs (Nippy Norms) to my 12GS. Amazing difference. 
What can I say
Don't waste your money, fit HID.
35w HID 300% more power and far longer life then a filament lamp. Talk to the man above
35w HID 300% more power and far longer life then a filament lamp. Talk to the man above
Davy F
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Yes, HID's are great. But for a fraction of the price, I've improved my lighting to a reasonable standard. Besides, I don't ride much at night to really justify fitting HID lights.
alimey4u2
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HiD is not just for night, it is the day time you sometimes need them more
That was my reasoning.....
D6
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a lot of the aftermarket blue bulbs cause shadowing,and a lower light output,they are purely cosmetic
I've found and of the +30% or +50% don't last.
I've fitted some H3's to the spots and some have lasted less than a month.
The only ones I've found that last are the PIAA ones but they're bloody expensive and surprizingly the Halfords H7 Extreme seems to last ok at about 6months and they seem to have them regularly half price.
I'd be hesitant getting single units posted to you as the filament is going to get a beating by postman plod bashing the package around.
I've fitted some H3's to the spots and some have lasted less than a month.
The only ones I've found that last are the PIAA ones but they're bloody expensive and surprizingly the Halfords H7 Extreme seems to last ok at about 6months and they seem to have them regularly half price.
I'd be hesitant getting single units posted to you as the filament is going to get a beating by postman plod bashing the package around.
Davy F
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HiD is not just for night, it is the day time you sometimes need them more
With the amount of blind bastards on the road, I'm of the opinion that no matter what you are dressed in, what colour your bike is or how bright your lights are, they'll still not see you.
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I've tried the Philips bulbs, ok with a noticeable but not very significant increase in output, but they don't last long.
Paid £30 (2nd hand!) for two PIAA bulbs to put in my spots, nice but not £30 nice.
Paid £50 for a Bosch ballast and HID bulb and I have permanant day light
Once you have experianced HID anything else is less.
Bang for bucks HIDs have it every time, no contest.
Andres
Paid £30 (2nd hand!) for two PIAA bulbs to put in my spots, nice but not £30 nice.
Paid £50 for a Bosch ballast and HID bulb and I have permanant day light
Once you have experianced HID anything else is less.
Bang for bucks HIDs have it every time, no contest.
Andres
Yer pays yer money..............!!!
FWIW, I fitted PIAA bulbs and they were bloody expensive, (but a fraction of the cost of HID at that time), and I am very pleased with them, however, I know what I'll spend my money on next time I want more light...........!!!
fit hid they are now cheap fitted some to my 1150 gsa and my mates 1200gsa hi and low beam purchased in worcester for £75.00 this is for a 2 bulb kit only 30 mins to fit, i can now see at night on my 1150 . the man selling has only got h7 fitment left so they will only fit 1200 call me for more info 07824380691 darron
thats true, but only if they dont look in the first place, a HID lamp, is such a different colour and brightness, that I have noticed a considerable amount of drivers see me, by the actions that they do, they pull over to the left, or move left on the motorway, much more on my hid set up bikes than on my halogen bikes
CliveS
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Another option
I have used Silverstar lamps by Osram for many years now and have found them a vast improvement over the OEM lamps. No failures or problems as they are all RS rated "Rough Service"
They are pure white, around 4300 degree Kelvin and 1700 Lumens at 13.5v
The blue appearance of the ones shown is a coating applied to change the colour temperature and will also reduces the Lumens. You use the same wattage as the OEM bulbs but you can get up to 50% more light with no additional current draw.
I agree HID are the ultimate but value for money and ease of fitting I will stay with Silverstar.
I have used Silverstar lamps by Osram for many years now and have found them a vast improvement over the OEM lamps. No failures or problems as they are all RS rated "Rough Service"
They are pure white, around 4300 degree Kelvin and 1700 Lumens at 13.5v
The blue appearance of the ones shown is a coating applied to change the colour temperature and will also reduces the Lumens. You use the same wattage as the OEM bulbs but you can get up to 50% more light with no additional current draw.
I agree HID are the ultimate but value for money and ease of fitting I will stay with Silverstar.
bought some for the 11gs took em out nxt day after nearly crashing bike on a dark bend, too many shadows n i dont mean old hank...
Cole
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Not quite ... "Pure white" is 5600 - 5800K. The colour of overhead sunlight, the colour of photographic lighting etc etc etc. There is even a website 5600K.com which specialises in cinematic lighting.
Secondly: filament light bulbs cannot be 4300K without a blue filter to artificially change the colour of the light (by reducing the amount of yellow and red light coming out of the bulb). So you are right to say its less light from a blue filtered bulb. Tungsten has the highest melting point of any metal. Thats why its used in filament bulbs. Tungstens melting point is 3695K. So no filament bulb with a clear filter can generate average light output above that level (unless it under extreme pressures, and even then it goes up only slightly). Tungsten-Halogen bulbs typically operate around 3200K. Some high performance bulbs operate about 3300 - 3350K and as a result produce an ever so slightly whiter light. Compare them to a true 5600K light and you will see how yellow they really are tho.
The closer they get to 3695 K (the melting point of tungsten) the softer the metal becomes and the more likely it is to blow. Thats why higher performance filament bulbs INHERENTLY have shorter life spans.
You cannot get away from the physics.
(1) "White light" is for all intents and purposes 5600K
(2) Filament bulbs cannot operate beyond 3695K without filtering and reducing light output
(3) High performance filament bulbs inherently have a shorter life expectancy. Nothing to do with brand. Nothing to do with the quality of manufacture
Anything else is just marketing propaganda.
How do you lower the light output and still get 50% more light?
Oh look, it's that phrase "up to", a dead giveaway in marketing bullocks.
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