Nothing fucked up as far as I'm concerned Den.
However.....the demographics of Scotland being what they are, are you seriously telling me that there can ever be anything but left wing governance in Scotland? Ever? Be it labour or SNP? I just don't believe you. Because the tories got voted for in the 1930's can't mean anything in the future. By the time the electorate realize their error it'll be too late.
The whole country was stupid enough to vote for the left wing in the Blair/Brown/Balls years, and look where that left us. My post, which Den refers to as a generalization, is no such thing. It is a response to a specific motive averred to by Toddy, who appears to be the main spokesman for the indies, and clearly is in it for one thing...socialism. It is a warning to those undecided voters that a 'by product' of independence will be a return to left wing politics on a grand scale. 'Free' this, 'free' that are the promises from eck. This guarantee of a socialist regime is why Tommy Sheridan for example is so keen on it.
Certainly I am, I suppose, right wing generally. Can't help that. I suppose mostly because I can see how socialism fails everybody everywhere. I also fear very much for rural Scotland in independence, because the agenda will be driven by a body who have no idea how the country bits work. They are anti estate, anti shooting, anti private land ownership, anti deer(because they are seen as an icon of estate sporting shooting)(Rob Gibson SNP convenor of Rural Affairs Committee recently tried to get all Scottish Deer Management under Scottish Government Control). They have often tried to get the right to buy legislation regardless of the owners wishes pushed through.
Quite who they think is going to plough the millions of pounds into the rural economy to replace this enormous flow of cash from estate owners is not clear. The tenant on a large chunk of Invercauld Estate has recently increased his game-keeping staff from 3 to 8. That potentially is 8 households and families living and working in the countryside. The same man has spent 2 million quid on doing up the house. He is spending millions more on the estate infrastructure. Will the Scottish Government spend anything like that? Will they fuck! Yet they feel able to gleefully reject this sort of investment The Scottish Government is destroying native migratory fish ....salmon and seatrout....for the benefit of the fish farming industry....most of which is owned by foreign companies, Norwegians, who are not allowed to do in their own country what they do here because of the damage they do to their environment in Norway. The Faeroese and Greenland fisherman have a voluntary agreement not to net salmon at sea...most of the Scottish and Irish salmon overwinter in their waters. However because the Scottish Government have now allowed coastal netting to resume, despite all the best scientific advice, these foreign fishermen are about to tear up their agreement, probably sounding the final death knell for the scottish salmon.
So maybe I'm selfish. I said I was earlier in one or the other of these threads. But it is vital that people realize that our leaders are not fit to govern; they are already doing significant harm to Scotland; independence will allow them to really fuck the place up. So maybe you are right; I am implying they are too stupid to govern the country; they prove it to us at virtually every opportunity. They are unable even to tell me how my pension will be paid?? 4 months before I'm supposed to decide whether they know what they are doing?? Crazy!!
Now I realize that most of what I have been banging on about is of absolutely no interest or import to a 17 year old from Alloa, or Kilsyth, or most on here who will shrug their shoulders and say 'oh well its only for the toffs'. But it isn't. And once everyone else realises, it'll be too late, and thats why I keep banging my drum, trying to show people what a mistake they might make, and why. I suppose I could just shut up and see, but I love this country too much for it to be taken into a backwater by a bunch of useless chancers,and should stay an integral and valuable part of the sixth largest economy of the world, rather than sleepwalking into......small, independent, self governed...... insignificance.
I'm waiting for a note from your mother to explain your absence from the last Blackloonies??
However.....the demographics of Scotland being what they are, are you seriously telling me that there can ever be anything but left wing governance in Scotland? Ever? Be it labour or SNP? I just don't believe you. Because the tories got voted for in the 1930's can't mean anything in the future. By the time the electorate realize their error it'll be too late.
The whole country was stupid enough to vote for the left wing in the Blair/Brown/Balls years, and look where that left us. My post, which Den refers to as a generalization, is no such thing. It is a response to a specific motive averred to by Toddy, who appears to be the main spokesman for the indies, and clearly is in it for one thing...socialism. It is a warning to those undecided voters that a 'by product' of independence will be a return to left wing politics on a grand scale. 'Free' this, 'free' that are the promises from eck. This guarantee of a socialist regime is why Tommy Sheridan for example is so keen on it.
Certainly I am, I suppose, right wing generally. Can't help that. I suppose mostly because I can see how socialism fails everybody everywhere. I also fear very much for rural Scotland in independence, because the agenda will be driven by a body who have no idea how the country bits work. They are anti estate, anti shooting, anti private land ownership, anti deer(because they are seen as an icon of estate sporting shooting)(Rob Gibson SNP convenor of Rural Affairs Committee recently tried to get all Scottish Deer Management under Scottish Government Control). They have often tried to get the right to buy legislation regardless of the owners wishes pushed through.
Quite who they think is going to plough the millions of pounds into the rural economy to replace this enormous flow of cash from estate owners is not clear. The tenant on a large chunk of Invercauld Estate has recently increased his game-keeping staff from 3 to 8. That potentially is 8 households and families living and working in the countryside. The same man has spent 2 million quid on doing up the house. He is spending millions more on the estate infrastructure. Will the Scottish Government spend anything like that? Will they fuck! Yet they feel able to gleefully reject this sort of investment The Scottish Government is destroying native migratory fish ....salmon and seatrout....for the benefit of the fish farming industry....most of which is owned by foreign companies, Norwegians, who are not allowed to do in their own country what they do here because of the damage they do to their environment in Norway. The Faeroese and Greenland fisherman have a voluntary agreement not to net salmon at sea...most of the Scottish and Irish salmon overwinter in their waters. However because the Scottish Government have now allowed coastal netting to resume, despite all the best scientific advice, these foreign fishermen are about to tear up their agreement, probably sounding the final death knell for the scottish salmon.
So maybe I'm selfish. I said I was earlier in one or the other of these threads. But it is vital that people realize that our leaders are not fit to govern; they are already doing significant harm to Scotland; independence will allow them to really fuck the place up. So maybe you are right; I am implying they are too stupid to govern the country; they prove it to us at virtually every opportunity. They are unable even to tell me how my pension will be paid?? 4 months before I'm supposed to decide whether they know what they are doing?? Crazy!!
Now I realize that most of what I have been banging on about is of absolutely no interest or import to a 17 year old from Alloa, or Kilsyth, or most on here who will shrug their shoulders and say 'oh well its only for the toffs'. But it isn't. And once everyone else realises, it'll be too late, and thats why I keep banging my drum, trying to show people what a mistake they might make, and why. I suppose I could just shut up and see, but I love this country too much for it to be taken into a backwater by a bunch of useless chancers,and should stay an integral and valuable part of the sixth largest economy of the world, rather than sleepwalking into......small, independent, self governed...... insignificance.
I'm waiting for a note from your mother to explain your absence from the last Blackloonies??
