They look cool! What are they?
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They look cool! What are they?
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I’ve been riding my eMTB, carbon road bike and “analogue” MTB recently as I’ve been riding after work each day commuting home from my home office in the back bedroom 
My eMTB is great for exploring the Worth Valley where I live, especially in the current strong easterly winds, as I can easily/lazily head up any steep track with minimal effort. Once above 15.5mph though it just feels very heavy and unresponsive.
I’d been using it mainly for commuting along the canal and some other easy gravel tracks over the winter and it did encourage me to ride to the office (4.5 miles away). I could ride home in 20 minutes without getting stuck in traffic, so about the same time as using the car.
However, for serious off-road use it’s a bit of a lump with its hardtail frame as the rear wheel just crashes over rocks due to the weight of the motor. My hardtail normal MTB is a joy to ride off-road by comparison. I’ve owned a couple of full suspension MTB’s before and didn’t like them as I found them too big and heavy after riding lightweight road bikes, but I think full sus is essential on an eMTB if you’re going to do some serious off-road riding
You do get a workout on an eMTB, but nowhere near as much as you do on a normal bike. The average speed is about the same as my road bike on hilly routes, but the road bike is much faster on level routes. It’s horses for courses though and it’s nice to ride both
My eMTB is great for exploring the Worth Valley where I live, especially in the current strong easterly winds, as I can easily/lazily head up any steep track with minimal effort. Once above 15.5mph though it just feels very heavy and unresponsive.
I’d been using it mainly for commuting along the canal and some other easy gravel tracks over the winter and it did encourage me to ride to the office (4.5 miles away). I could ride home in 20 minutes without getting stuck in traffic, so about the same time as using the car.
However, for serious off-road use it’s a bit of a lump with its hardtail frame as the rear wheel just crashes over rocks due to the weight of the motor. My hardtail normal MTB is a joy to ride off-road by comparison. I’ve owned a couple of full suspension MTB’s before and didn’t like them as I found them too big and heavy after riding lightweight road bikes, but I think full sus is essential on an eMTB if you’re going to do some serious off-road riding
You do get a workout on an eMTB, but nowhere near as much as you do on a normal bike. The average speed is about the same as my road bike on hilly routes, but the road bike is much faster on level routes. It’s horses for courses though and it’s nice to ride both
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Yep, I’d agree that you don’t get as good a workout. I barely broke a sweat the other day, and did 38.5 miles! And you are aware of the weight when you switch off the assistance. But, for getting back into mtb’s it’s great fun.
When I finally get my back op sorted once the hospitals get back to normal, I’d consider adding a regular mtb to the garage, and using that for serious calorie burning. But that’s a long way off.
When I finally get my back op sorted once the hospitals get back to normal, I’d consider adding a regular mtb to the garage, and using that for serious calorie burning. But that’s a long way off.
Sorry can’t provide a link as they appear to have closed during the virus, basically they are a fat tired electric scooter with four power levels, this is a link to something similar.
https://www.yourbikergang.com/
Austin is just so cool, many of the big companies like Apple, Google etc are moving there because it’s a music and food town which makes recruiting the right people easier. If you get a chance it’s definitely a recommended town.
It's already on the list of places to visit one day.
I can just see the Harley brigade on those, when they get even older!
Ha! I thought that too.... so I kept my Trek Fuel ex8..... it's never turned a wheel since I discovered the awesomeness of emtb!
And when I did that multi bike test.... everyone said only get full suss, because once you're used to it, you'll do much bigger more extreme stuff on an emtb, and you'll really need the rear suss to soften the bumps..... and they were right. Mind you, I've never understook the appeal of a bone jarring hardtail, when you can have a supple back end 
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Very popular in parts of Europe but illegal over here. However, when ever I've been to Huntingdon I always see an old boy riding one around the town but he's probably just a rebel sticking to the man
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And when I did that multi bike test.... everyone said only get full suss, because once you're used to it, you'll do much bigger more extreme stuff on an emtb, and you'll really need the rear suss to soften the bumps..... and they were right. Mind you, I've never understook the appeal of a bone jarring hardtail, when you can have a supple back end
Yup, I was the same, once I got a fs my ht never seen the light of day, I suspect the same would be the case with my fs is I get an emtb.
And when I did that multi bike test.... everyone said only get full suss, because once you're used to it, you'll do much bigger more extreme stuff on an emtb, and you'll really need the rear suss to soften the bumps..... and they were right. Mind you, I've never understook the appeal of a bone jarring hardtail, when you can have a supple back end
And we all like a supple back end
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I’m a Luddite - I much prefer my much lighter weight hardtail Marin Nail Trail over my previous full suspension bikes
But I’ve rarely used it since I bought my eMTB
You do get a workout on an eMTB, but nowhere near as much as you do on a normal bike. The average speed is about the same as my road bike on hilly routes, but the road bike is much faster on level routes. It’s horses for courses though and it’s nice to ride both
I have to disagree...
You can certainly go out on an EMTB and have an easy ride but the ability to have a hard workout that’s comparable to a non assisted bike is there.
I can attain max heart rates that I get on unassisted bikes and average heart rates, if you push, can be very near what they’d be on unassisted bike rides for me on a like for like ride that’s 147 bpm average unassisted 143 bpm assisted. On longer rides the eBike can have a higher average bpm as I find on a non assisted bike I hold a little in reserve.
In summary, stop meandering and start pushing you lazy so an so's
PS: Do I know what I’m talking about? I’d say yes... I’ve been monitoring heart rate and average heart rates for 20+ years when I use to race my single speed 20 years ago (when I was 40) I could max over 200bpm and average for a 90 min race 184bpm. Since then I’ve had a period of losing my fitness and Afib but my heart rate is getting back up there since getting the eBike but still work to do
On the FS point...
High cadence is your friend on an eBike and you spend much more time in the saddle than you do on an unassisted MTB so having FS makes a big difference
Unassisted I like a hardtail for the trails on my doorstep and that’s the reason I still go out on the single speed as I get that out of the saddle upper body involvement that is missing on the eBike
High cadence is your friend on an eBike and you spend much more time in the saddle than you do on an unassisted MTB so having FS makes a big difference
Unassisted I like a hardtail for the trails on my doorstep and that’s the reason I still go out on the single speed as I get that out of the saddle upper body involvement that is missing on the eBike
I must be doing something wrong.
I just go out on my emtb to get some fresh air and exercise.
Should I be wired up to a bank of monitors and worried about my cadence ?
I just go out on my emtb to get some fresh air and exercise.
Should I be wired up to a bank of monitors and worried about my cadence ?
I have to disagree...
You can certainly go out on an EMTB and have an easy ride but the ability to have a hard workout that’s comparable to a non assisted bike is there.
I can attain max heart rates that I get on unassisted bikes and average heart rates, if you push, can be very near what they’d be on unassisted bike rides for me on a like for like ride that’s 147 bpm average unassisted 143 bpm assisted. On longer rides the eBike can have a higher average bpm as I find on a non assisted bike I hold a little in reserve.
In summary, stop meandering and start pushing you lazy so an so's
PS: Do I know what I’m talking about? I’d say yes... I’ve been monitoring heart rate and average heart rates for 20+ years when I use to race my single speed 20 years ago (when I was 40) I could max over 200bpm and average for a 90 min race 184bpm. Since then I’ve had a period of losing my fitness and Afib but my heart rate is getting back up there since getting the eBike but still work to do
This video is a good demo of heart rate dynamics
With the Blevo app on the Levo/Kenevo you can set heart rate at what ever you want and the motor adapts to maintain a constant heart rate - cleve stuff
I have to disagree...
You can certainly go out on an EMTB and have an easy ride but the ability to have a hard workout that’s comparable to a non assisted bike is there.
I can attain max heart rates that I get on unassisted bikes and average heart rates, if you push, can be very near what they’d be on unassisted bike rides for me on a like for like ride that’s 147 bpm average unassisted 143 bpm assisted. On longer rides the eBike can have a higher average bpm as I find on a non assisted bike I hold a little in reserve.
In summary, stop meandering and start pushing you lazy so an so's
PS: Do I know what I’m talking about? I’d say yes... I’ve been monitoring heart rate and average heart rates for 20+ years when I use to race my single speed 20 years ago (when I was 40) I could max over 200bpm and average for a 90 min race 184bpm. Since then I’ve had a period of losing my fitness and Afib but my heart rate is getting back up there since getting the eBike but still work to do
Exactly.. Put ure motor in eco and do your ride/workout, set your suspension tyre pressure,s up correctly which will make your ride far less fatiguing allowing you to see even more beautiful countryside, then when you are all nice and tired flick it into turbo and enjoy your ride home. I even start some rides with the motor off to get the ticker pounding
Some people are already god like in many aspects and don’t need to make an effort - You/they are the lucky ones
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My ex has been at me for years to wear a hrm, I get it and vaguely understand them but it's not for me, she never exercises without one.
It's a very good example of Wreford's points
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