You don't want this to happen

[mrjim130]

Spookey

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

You mean spokey

 

[Farzad the barber]

His full story of what happened its here! and it looks like his is not the only one, there is another case in Mexico!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bmwmoa/

 

[Farzad the barber]

here is the story of what happened!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bmwmoa/

 

[MikeO]

His full story of what happened its here! and it looks like his is not the only one, there is another case in Mexico!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bmwmoa/

Link just leads to a FaceBook log-in page

 

[Farzad the barber]

Link just leads to a FaceBook log-in page

Yes, he posted the photos and what happened on BMWMOA Face Book page!

 

[Greg Masters]

Yes, he posted the photos and what happened on BMWMOA Face Book page!

For those of us who don't have access to Facebook, perhaps you'd be so kind as to cut'n'paste the Facebook entry so we might know what happened.

 

[(RIP) Miff]

"Anybody ever heard of a disintegrating back wheel on a 2013 R1200GS?!?!? Almost crashed but managed to keep it upright on the highway. What a scary moment.... Let's see what our good friends from BMW say about that...
— at Montreal, Quebec Canada"

 

[Farzad the barber]

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Anybody ever heard of a disintegrating back wheel on a 2013 R1200GS?!?!? Almost crashed but managed to keep it upright on the highway. What a scary moment.... Let's see what our good friends from BMW say about that... — at Montreal, Quebec Canada.
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Peter Sandberg Fd Ivarsson Impressive not crashing. Never heard of all spokes go at the same time. Maybe one after many years.
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Bruno Landry Back end just dropped to the ground, no apperent reason.
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Todd Bray Did you ever check the spokes?
14 hours ago · Like

Lance Gines That is f-ing nuts!
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Ron Duncan wow - that is not good - changing my thought on trading in my 2010 gs on a new one - that is crazy - glad you keep it upright
14 hours ago · Edited · Like · 1

Bruno Landry Brand new motorcycle... has 10000km on it... on top of that, I was just picking it up from the dealer owho did a full indspection on it...
14 hours ago · Like · 7

Sam Key I've never seen that on any Bike!
14 hours ago · Like · 2

David Kinsey :-0
14 hours ago · Like

Todd Bray The maintenance sheet I just looked at has check spokes on it at every 10k.
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Bruno Landry I have to say though, it still handled pretty well even without spokes on the back wheel... ;-p gotta stay positive, I'm alive it's all that matters
14 hours ago · Like · 15

Peter Sandberg Fd Ivarsson The new feature. It handles well even when broken.
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Paul Liszewski too many burnouts
14 hours ago · Like

Ted Williams I have avoided spokes since '79
14 hours ago · Like

Eric Hall Never seen that before!
14 hours ago · Like

Bruno Landry Always thought spoked wheels were safer and sturdier than the other kind
14 hours ago · Like · 4

Chloe Carson 6000-mile service notes to check tension on cross-spoke wheels and tighten if necessary.
14 hours ago · Like

Bruno Landry that's not on the maintenance sheet my dealer gave me today... i'll have to look into that with them... thanks for the tip!
14 hours ago · Like

Eric Hall My dealer had a rear wheel with some busted spokes for sale. I guess the work they did on a bike led to the failure; it was their fault. I think something on the rear wheel assembly wasn't put back on properly, came loose and took out the spokes.
14 hours ago · Like

Chloe Carson Halfway down
Chloe Carson's photo.
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Rafael Gularte Not mechanically inclined but....could this be the result of a chain of events due to a dog bone snapping in the suspension system?
14 hours ago · Like

Ed Grant My guess someone re-spoked the wheel but never torqued the spokes or finished the job. Bet there's a history with that wheel if you could find it.
14 hours ago · Like

Bruno Landry not likely, brand new wheel from last summer
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Eric Hall A clue here is the rear mud guard is broken off. Often times when something catches the rear mud guard like a big rock or wire or other road debris, it gets caught up in the wheel and that's what breaks the spokes.
14 hours ago · Like

Bruno Landry thought of that, but the wheel never stopped turning. I checked the tire for a flat spot, nothing...
14 hours ago · Like

Ron Duncan [Cross-spoke wheels]
check tension of spokes and tighten if necessary - http://www.r1200gs.info/R1200GS-Maintenance-Schedules.pdf
14 hours ago · Edited · Like · 1

Lance LeFort 10k on the bike. completely crazy and scary.go buy a lottery ticket!
14 hours ago · Like · 4

Tim Twice Foooooook!!!!
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Alain Zarinelli Wow. Well done controlling THAT. I had to control a rear tire blowout, but this...
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Pace Bonner Perhaps the dealer over-tightened the spokes causing a fracture at connection point?
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Michael Brady Give em an earful!!!
14 hours ago · Like

Matt Goff Is the top of the swing arm damaged? I have seen similar results on a dirt bike where the wheel got caught on a piece of pipe. You did a good job. I would have crashed.
14 hours ago · Like

Jason Adams ALmost impossible for all the spokes to go like that.. even badly boinged spoked wheels have enough metal to hold them into some kind. Thats not normal, is what I'm saying.
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Matthew Noel How did the back of the muffler get damaged? It looks like road rash.
14 hours ago · Like

Robert Otto unbelievable
14 hours ago · Like

Tom Cutter Check spoke tension is part of EVERY Service check sheet for the GS and ADV models. I keep replacement spokes and nipples in stock because I fond so many loose or broken. People think that GSs are dirt bikes and that you can jump them, ride fast fire roads and rumble over boulders and never have to check the bike over. I am sometimes amazed by the poor condition that I see these bikes in, and the way they are ridden.
14 hours ago · Like · 3

Armando Almeida Two thoughts come to mind: 1. Are you sure no one took a contract on you ? 2. Thank your angel as keeping it upright after this event is a miracle.
14 hours ago · Like · 5

Jason Adams Still, even if four of them were wildly loose, and six or ten were sorta loose, they couldnt all just completely shear out, could they?
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Bruno Landry still have original slick tires on my bike, so I haven't had the chance to give it a beating in the dirt yet...
14 hours ago · Like

Jimmy Messina Wow someone musta left a wrench in there!
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Ron Eastwood Spoke....too soon...?
14 hours ago · Like · 4

Michael Troper Even with improperly trued spokes this shouldn't have happened, especially right after a full inspection by the dealer.
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Jason Adams where are all the spokes, anyway? Just this weekend, a guy I was riding with had one of hte brake pins come out, and oddly enough this model bike had the pins exit towards the spokes. It got halfway out and clipped one spoke, bending it, and then PING flew out someplace. Maybe the caliper bolts or some other thing sheared them all, but that would slow the bike Very Quickly, and it would still be hard to wipe away ALL the spokes.
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Eugene Messersmith Omg!!
14 hours ago · Like

Scott Schuyler Glad you're alright Bruno.
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Cody Puckett Wow! Was there any warning or was it just BAM ?
14 hours ago · Like

Cody Puckett And how fast were you going?
14 hours ago · Like

Eric Hall Woody's Wheel Works has probably seen this a few times and knows the most probable causes
14 hours ago · Like · 4

Bruno Landry 90-100km/h. not a sign of anything wrong before the backed dropped...
14 hours ago · Like

Ron Duncan Yes where are all spokes - did they rip out at the nipple on both ends - or were they broken - glad your OK
14 hours ago · Edited · Like

Bruno Landry pretty much all at the tire end
14 hours ago · Like

Steve Jacobson Maybe the mechanic adjusted the spokes to foot pounds not inch pounds when converting from Newton Meters? I'd check the front to see where they're at.
14 hours ago · Like · 4

Ron Kasper They just don't make them like they use to.
14 hours ago · Like

Scott Barber Wow, I've never heard of or seen that happen before.
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Dan Rodarte Great job keeping it upright!
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Christopher Souris Wow I don't know where to begin to offer help on this one…glad you were able to keep it under control Bruno, nice work! Keep us informed on what the outcome is….
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Cookie DePietro That is crazy.....scarey....good job on staying calm to get off the road.
14 hours ago · Like

Rick Larson You ain't got no chain. That there's yer problem.
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Michael Jahnl That could have easily ended much different! Kudos to keeping her up and congrats to spending 1/10 lives on a worthy cause of recovery.
BMW better be coming through for you with more than just a replacement rear end.
For everyone else, incl. myself, spoke check. Pronto.
14 hours ago · Like · 2

Chris Morrow Glad you made it through that man!!
14 hours ago · Like · 1

Xavier Anzures Here in México someone had a similar problem because of a caliper broken base. But was on a 2010 model.
13 hours ago · Like · 1

Jimbo Bent Well BMW does advertise them as unstoppable. Showing them riding them rough, doing jumps etc. http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/index.html...
13 hours ago · Like

Jimbo Bent I also agree it is on a maintenance sheet but spoke tuning is an art and not everybody/ mechanic can do it properly. It is not just a tighten to a torque spec and ride kind of repair.
13 hours ago · Edited · Like

Susan Raby-Dunne Yikes! Sounds terrifying! Never heard of it.
13 hours ago · Like

Derek Tellup You're barking up the wrong tree on this site,pal. I bitched about mine needing $25k in repair work in less than a year on a brand new bike and got nowhere . Good luck contacting anyone at BMW North America too. You can't find those bastards with a search warrant & a bloodhound
13 hours ago · Like · 3

Dominic Perone Jr Wow! Glad you're safe!
13 hours ago · Like

Monty Altermann Maybe new found power on motor more than wheel can handle going to check my spokes on mine I've added full exhaust system and other things maybe your wheel didn't get finished I had friend with Harley wheels kept going out of true and spokes getting loose they finally came across with deal on custom mags for her. Have you hammered it off road or did excessive burn outs?Still no excuse for what happened just wondering.
13 hours ago · Like

Jeffrey Lefebvre New wheel design struck me as quite cheapened compared to past GS/GSA wheels. Time will tell- be safe out there, peoples.
13 hours ago · Like

Brooks Davis My guess is you won't hear much until after they assuage the sensibilities of the 50,000+ other owners still waiting on a fuel pump fix before their bikes explode.
13 hours ago · Like · 2

Jimbo Bent don't forget the cracked steering heads that are popping up
13 hours ago · Like · 1

Howard Davidson Time for new shorts
13 hours ago · Like · 3

Dawn Douglas Wow!
13 hours ago · Like

Coban Coban Burma This is truly WTF moment. I'm glad you didn't crash. BMW aren't what it used to be yet we Beemer folks always bash other brands.
13 hours ago · Like · 1

Bruno Landry This bike has gone on gravel roads once since i'm still running street tires, so no... it has not been mistreated offroad...
13 hours ago · Like

Roger Snead Good you are OK, I have always feared this happening!
13 hours ago · Like

Brian Diver Glad you are OK, that could have been much worse. Now you have to take that Turbo Busa motor off with all that HP and put the GS motor back in.
13 hours ago · Like · 1

Steve Schilli Good job not crashing. That's a very scary fail.
13 hours ago · Like

Rodger Williamson
13 hours ago · Like

Kevin Leeman Wow did a steel bar flip in the wheel and then fall out before you could stop?? I can't imagine anything else snapping every single spoke??
13 hours ago · Like

Bruce Darling BMW says it obviously is not their fault, must be your fault. Kidding aside, glad you are ok. Do we give credit to BMW for outstanding engineering that would allow you to stay upright even through this?
13 hours ago · Edited · Like

Love Da Saints How the hell did you not dump it?
13 hours ago · Like

Matthew Noel Hey Bruno Landry, what is the damage on the muffler?
13 hours ago · Like

Bruno Landry wasn't anything like that I don't think. the wheel never stopped turning. I will certainly talk to my dealer about the theory of overtightened spokes...
13 hours ago · Like · 1

Bruno Landry the muffler tip you mean? i had a laptop bag mishap last summer... fell on the wheel and melted... I know... I'm such a lucky guy...
13 hours ago · Like · 1

Pace Bonner Look at the wheel and hub for cracks or broken holes where the spokes attach.

I had a Harley Ultra Classic with spoked wheels. Spokes loosened under heavy acceleration. Once they started getting loose, the rear end would shake when off the throttle. Evidently the spokes would stretch when popping wheelies. Lol. I finally put mags on it. Problem solved.
13 hours ago · Like · 2

Pace Bonner You might also go back to where it happened and try to find some of the old spokes.
13 hours ago · Edited · Like · 1

Kai Roth Holy sheep sh!t. Your guardian angels were watching over you!
12 hours ago · Like · 1

Eduardo E. Belmonte New bikes tend to loose spokes.... on the first 300 or 400 miles..... I know that applies for unpaved roads..... Tension given after that does keep good afterwards..... This my experience on XR600s, several o them. If that applies to GS motorcycles I cannot tell, nor have I heard such a thing said anywhere around.
12 hours ago · Like

Leon Mongue Sr. too bad they don't make these bikes as good as they did the /5s.
12 hours ago · Like · 1

Asad Khan WTF, they forget to put chain on. Glad you didn't crash.
12 hours ago · Like

Gerry Brumleve in all joking aside, this is probably one reason why many manufacturer's dont use spoke style rims anymore. they're all a one piece cast aluminum rim like my K1300 or steel like a japanese bike. while i do miss a nicely laced rim which is an art and beauty in it's own right, just too much liability these days.
12 hours ago · Like

John Lynch Holy bat crap! Scary stuff! Was that one made in China perhaps?
12 hours ago · Like · 1

David Gahagan Yikes, I think you're doing it wrong. Hopefully the dealer takes care of you.
12 hours ago · Like · 2

Mark Eastham Wow, you must have pulled up a huge chunk of your seat from puckering when that hub let go, glad you managed to keep it upright, first gen 1000 wings did the same thing.
12 hours ago · Like · 2

Roger Lehmann That will definitely peg your fun meter. Most likely BMW will say it's operator issues like they try to say when their bikes break for no apparent reason. Be safe out there!
12 hours ago · Like

Nick Victormontesdeoca Vimototv Very soon i will post a case. i restore the bike same case but the bmw dealer in guadalajara mexico install on the bike a caliper base defective this broke the caliper hole where the bolts are screwed
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Nick Victormontesdeoca Vimototv Very soon i will post a case. i restore the bike same case but the bmw dealer in guadalajara mexico install on the bike a caliper base defective
12 hours ago · Like

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Mark Mumaw Holy shit!
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Stuart Williams Sweet merciful crap Homer. Glad you're OK. Kudos for not going down. Lots of squidly stuff coming out about the new wethead.
11 hrs · Like

Ira Chavis Glad your ok!
11 hrs · Like

Nick Victormontesdeoca Vimototv It is so good the pilot was not harmed only purple spots in hes skin .. this happen on a highway on a night at mexico
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Phil DePietro Wow! Keep us informed please. Glad your ok.
11 hrs · Like · 1

Richard McKinley had to be.some kind of.warning????
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Nelson Covington WTF
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Abraham Balderas WTF!

That's no bueno
11 hrs · Like

Richard McKinley I call foul on Harley Ultra Classic and wheelie used in same paragraph. I ignored.heavy.acceleration
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Randy Owens WOW. Now this is ugly. I had the same wheel on my 1995 GS1100 I bought the bike in1996. My wheel did not get this far, BUT did become very untrue, not round anymore? BMW had no issues GIVING me a new rear wheel! Man, yours is scary scenario!!!
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Bob Mitson BMW...bring more wallet
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Pace Bonner Richard, I know it's hard to believe a Harley Ultra Classic can pop a wheelie. Here's proof although it's not me in the picture. Heck, I've had the front tire of my K1200LT off the ground.
Pace Bonner's photo.
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James Chapman OMG! Glad you're okay
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Bill Jones Holy crap i been riding 39 yrs never seen anything like that before glad your ok .As for the bike i would take it to the bike shop and drop it on the guy that wrenched it last . Im happy i have a fjr1300 now
11 hrs · Like · 1

Bill Fujii take this pos back to the dealer, tell them that, the next stop is with your lawyer. then go by with KTM.
11 hrs · Like · 2

Richard McKinley I need.to see.the.contents of those saddle bags and.trunk! );
11 hrs · Like · 1

Jimmy Messina That's fucked up, I thought these were made for abuse.
Heard the new V - Strom 1000 is very nice.
10 hrs · Like · 1

Michael Moon Maybe an older bike would be more fun?
Michael Moon's photo.
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Rus Eaton keep us posted please
10 hrs · Like · 2

Achim Franz they better give you a new bike
10 hrs · Like

David Weimer Wow. I'm riding with you and your guardian angels.
10 hrs · Like

Ken Tucker Rode with a guy that had one. looked like they cut corners on the stock handle bar mounted gear. I thought I'll just keep mine, water is just one more system but wow.
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Francisco Fernandez Carlos Larios
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Jeff Geyman you know what they'll say! Can't be our fault, must be operator error.
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Clay Brooks You got mad skilz keeping on that thing and getting it stopped!!!
9 hrs · Like · 3

Arye Rubenstein the early cast snowflake wheels were recalled for cracking issues which could lead to the same thing.
9 hrs · Like

Larry Rosenstiel Doesn't surprise me!
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Douglas R. Laird Keep all posted please.
8 hrs · Like

Jeffrey Lefebvre "They all do that"
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Ian Griffiths Wow
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Edward P Dolan Glad ur safe brother
4 hrs · Like · 2

Joe Moir Glad you're ok, I hope they can definitively pinpoint the cause of this problem. No...Bavarian Mystery Works...BS
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Jamie Burke grazy
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Alex Shaffer I've never seen that happen to a Harley Davidson.
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Adam Paul Never seen that on an Airhead GS. BMW does not make these bikes for rugged duty anymore, just the illusion of rugged duty. Kind of like the Big SUV fad
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Kathy Kirkpatrick Someone was watching over you!
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Buck Malone Would you folks say the last 'rugged' GS was the R1150GSA?
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Adam Paul Nope...LWR proved that. The last truly rugged GS was the r100.
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Bob MacFarland There had to be some foreign object jammed int the spokes to break them all like that.
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Buck Malone Update me on LWR. Similar failure? Been gone from MOA for awhile.
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Buck Malone I get it. Long Way Round. Yep. You're correct.
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Sean Donnelly "BMW does not make these bikes for rugged duty anymore, just the illusion of rugged duty. ". If what Bruno says is true, that the bike on has 10K and has only been down a single gravel road, it's debatable whether they are even suitable for road use
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Joe Moir Longer Way Around !
http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/halloffame/detail.aspx...
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Bruno Landry I would swear it under oath
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Peter Slow Holy cow...
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Bruno Landry I should hear back from the dealer today. I'm optimistic BMW will do the right thing and get to the bottom of this. I'll keep you posted, it's a matter of security for all riders. Thank you all for your kind words and interest.
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Ted Williams Maybe I am uninformed but if there was a choice why would anybody choose spokes anyhow? You can get a GS w/o them. Spokes are old tech. (No reply needed---just staying an opinion)
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Bob MacFarland Bruno, is there a chance that someone vandalized your wheel prior to this happening? In all my years of riding/wrenching, I have never seen a failure like this.
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Jeffrey Lefebvre Yeah- spokes suck.....just ask those Supercross guys. (?)
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Bruno Landry Bob, I was literally coming out of the dealership with it and going home for the first time after winter storage. No chance of foul play...
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Bob MacFarland Bruno, that is so weird. I am not doubting you, but it makes no sense to me. If you find out what the cause was, I would be very interested. My GS-W has cast wheels, but I think the info would be valuable.
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Bruno Landry For the benefit of all, I'll post the details and new information as I get them.
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Randy Owens GSA '07 has seen extreme duty(mine), so I know the spokes are tougher wheels than mags! No doubt. Anybody says otherwise, never rode dirt very far. This is a anomaly and needs investigated indeed, but don't dismiss spokes as the wheel of choice for offroad. Generally, the BMW spokes have proven very tough.
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Jeffrey Lefebvre Go have a look at the current spoked wheel- and compare it to the ones offered in the past. Used to be moto art....These are....not.

 

[Shep]

Strange i'd have expected the nipples to still be in at least some of the rim holes if the spokes had snapped so perhaps it's a rim fault and the nipples pulled through?

 

[LiquidLAN]

Strange i'd have expected the nipples to still be in at least some of the rim holes if the spokes had snapped so perhaps it's a rim fault and the nipples pulled through?

Looks like there are a couple still attached to the hub and rim, but I wonder if the photo is not a bit staged for effect? I'm not sure how you'd stay upright on something like that as the guy claims

 

[WindyChuffer]

Is that Canbus fluid leaking out into the road in the first pic?

 

[Fanum]

Looks like there are a couple still attached to the hub and rim, but I wonder if the photo is not a bit staged for effect? I'm not sure how you'd stay upright on something like that as the guy claims

If the spokes collapsed suddenly, for whatever reason.......the brake disc would keep the wheel rim orientated on one side, and look at the shape of the outer surface of the wheel centre......effectively, it could have been like a pair of train wheels running inbetween two tracks

That would also eplain the damage to the inside surface of the rim, and what appears to be damage to the higher edges on either side of the hub itself........if that's how it happened, he was exceptionally lucky that the rim didn't come off the hub to the right, leaving him running on the edge of the brake disc until that shattered

 

[david a hall]

They are just too dangerous to be on the market these bikes....

 

[Nutty]

They are just too dangerous to be on the market these bikes....

Agreed. The GS will be BMW's downfall.

 

[Gix]

Agreed. The GS will be BMW's downfall.

Conversation I had tonight, if Honda made a viable alternative go the GS it could have some serious competition and I don't mean the Crosstourer.

 

[Beemerman59]

Conversation I had tonight, if Honda made a viable alternative go the GS it could have some serious competition and I don't mean the Crosstourer.

Other manufacturers have been threatening a GS killer for years but have never delivered on those promises. Its easy to talk the walk....

 

[Gix]

Other manufacturers have been threatening a GS killer for years but have never delivered on those promises. Its easy to talk the walk....

Agreed, but if you had Honda build quality and reliability with Gs character, on to a winner. I'll go get my tools...

 

[Micky]

Perhaps picked up a foreign object, that got stuck in the spokes would be a reasonable explanation

Nah! Probably trying to keep up with a well ridden X-Country

 

[mwhite5471]

Hope we find out the mostly likely cause!!

At least I've already removed my mudguard for looks