YSS, Maxton, Hyperpro info please - for R1150GS.

In the end I opted for a second refurb on the shock by PLR, Newtownards. I wasn't sure if a refurb would be feasible due to the high mileage. I'm happy with the result but I did fancy a new item.
I was about to buy a YSS shock and realised that the pre-load rings wouldn't be accessible when fitted. Oh well, just have to get the more expensive version with remote pre-load. But the PL adjuster doesn't fit vertically - unless I'd get another bracket to adapt it.

I did consider Nitron and was pleased to see Brooks quoted an excl VAT price.
I should probably do something about the front shock now.
 
You can spend a lot of money on suspension and that’s fine if that’s what you want. However the original setup is very good IMFO. More than 20 years old and with 45,000 miles it’s supple and comfortable and there’s no wallowing on fast bumpy corners. That’s with just me aboard, I haven’t travelled with luggage and a passenger.



The 1150s are all pretty old now though so you may well need to do something. But think about it because it’s all subjective and once we’ve spent money we want to believe that it’s a worthwhile improvement. But unless you are a certain type of rider you probably can’t tell the difference.



The front shock on the 1150gs is a conventional shock with 100mm of travel. The spec for the bike says that it has 210mm of front suspension travel and in order to get this the shock does move 100mm.



Most, if not all of the aftermarket shocks are of the “upside down” design and this doesn’t suit the front of the gs. It results in a shock with less travel. For example the shock that YSS sell for the front of the gs has about 65mm of travel which means that you are only getting about 140mm of front suspension travel. I’ll let you decide if that matters.



You might think I’m mistaken and I wouldn’t blame you. Before telling me I’m wrong do your own research. If you have a YSS shock on the front try putting the bike on the centre stand and putting a cable tie around one of the fork stanchions. Once you have ridden the bike in some rough conditions measure and see how much travel you have.



I think YSS make that shock to go on the back of other bikes, I don’t think they should recommend it for the front of the gs. It’s not actually easy to find out the stroke of aftermarket shocks, they don’t all publish it. Ohlins do and I think but I’m not sure, that the one they recommend for the front of the gs has 90mm. My research may be slightly out so that may give full travel, but I don’t think so.
 
Just realised that I should have said full front suspension travel is 190mm not 210 that's the Adventure model.
 
From my experience of having Ohlins on my 80,000 mile R1150GS.

"You can spend a lot of money on suspension and that’s fine if that’s what you want. However the original setup is very good IMFO. More than 20 years old and with 45,000 miles it’s supple and comfortable and there’s no wallowing on fast bumpy corners. That’s with just me aboard, I haven’t travelled with luggage and a passenger."

True the original shocks are not terrible though with 45,000 miles on them unless you have always been on particularly smooth roads I would think that they'd benefit from a refresh. With regard to "fast bumpy corners" it depends on how fast and how bumpy. The standard rear shock even when new is OK up to a point and that point is when the significant unsprung weight of the shaft is no longer controled by the damping and it crashes about. This is particularly noticable on my bike when going round a slowish up hill left and corner where the tarmac has been rippled by vehicles making the turn. The bike bounces about on the standard shock but not with the Ohlins. Also the damping adjustment on the Ohlins actually changes the character of the shock the BM shock not so much.

"The 1150s are all pretty old now though so you may well need to do something. But think about it because it’s all subjective and once we’ve spent money we want to believe that it’s a worthwhile improvement. But unless you are a certain type of rider you probably can’t tell the difference."

Nope its not "all subjective" I've seen the standard rear shock and the Ohlins shock on a shock dyno (At PLR suspension mentioned above) and Clarence Bell the owner was able to show me the damping curves of both shocks and the effect on that curve of changes to damping adjustment.

"But unless you are a certain type of rider you probably can’t tell the difference."

I don't think thats true. I changed out my Ohlins shocks back to the 30,000 mile standard shocks recently (the front Ohlins had started to leak a bit) and I could tell the difference as soon as they were changed over. The ride was not bad but certainly less compliant and controlled than with the Ohlins. What did surprise me was how much more harsh the front telelever felt (it is often suggested that the biggest improvements from changing the shocks is changing the rear) over small stutter bumps particularly while braking compared to the Ohlins unit.

The Ohlins units allow for the same suspension travel as the standard units but raise the seat height by about an inch.

All that said Ohlins shocks are not without their issues.

The shock were bought used around 2006-7. Both were serviced after purchase and springs changed (I have the standard springs as well) to suit me luggage and a pillion. The rear shock needed a new piston shaft as it was marked. The rear shock has been serviced 3 times in 50,000 miles as recommended by Ohlins and in that time has had a new piston and body due to internal wear (its now like triggers broom :) ) The front has been serviced once and has recently sprung a small leak hence reverting to standard shocks. Design wise for bad weather the Ohlins shocks are less protected than the standard shocks as the piston shaft front and rear is exposed.

I'm just about to get the Ohlins serviced and lowered a bit. At 62 now (I was 42 when I bought the bike) I like the height of the bike with the standard shocks particularly as I've fitted Sargent seats which raise the seat height that bit more.

Would I go back to standard shocks? Absolutley not as despite their drawbacks the bike rides SO much better (all the time and at all speeds) with them serviced and fitted. That said if you've never had them you'd never know.

(Full disclosure I started with Ohlins and Ktech forks on a GSXR 600 which I tracked and a 2006 R1 which was also tracked. ) the shock performance on those bikes at the track was astonishing compared to the cheap tat fitted to those bikes (particularly the R1 shock which was a mushy mess :) )
 
From my experience of having Ohlins on my 80,000 mile R1150GS.

"You can spend a lot of money on suspension and that’s fine if that’s what you want. However the original setup is very good IMFO. More than 20 years old and with 45,000 miles it’s supple and comfortable and there’s no wallowing on fast bumpy corners. That’s with just me aboard, I haven’t travelled with luggage and a passenger."

True the original shocks are not terrible though with 45,000 miles on them unless you have always been on particularly smooth roads I would think that they'd benefit from a refresh. With regard to "fast bumpy corners" it depends on how fast and how bumpy. The standard rear shock even when new is OK up to a point and that point is when the significant unsprung weight of the shaft is no longer controled by the damping and it crashes about. This is particularly noticable on my bike when going round a slowish up hill left and corner where the tarmac has been rippled by vehicles making the turn. The bike bounces about on the standard shock but not with the Ohlins. Also the damping adjustment on the Ohlins actually changes the character of the shock the BM shock not so much.

"The 1150s are all pretty old now though so you may well need to do something. But think about it because it’s all subjective and once we’ve spent money we want to believe that it’s a worthwhile improvement. But unless you are a certain type of rider you probably can’t tell the difference."

Nope its not "all subjective" I've seen the standard rear shock and the Ohlins shock on a shock dyno (At PLR suspension mentioned above) and Clarence Bell the owner was able to show me the damping curves of both shocks and the effect on that curve of changes to damping adjustment.

"But unless you are a certain type of rider you probably can’t tell the difference."

I don't think thats true. I changed out my Ohlins shocks back to the 30,000 mile standard shocks recently (the front Ohlins had started to leak a bit) and I could tell the difference as soon as they were changed over. The ride was not bad but certainly less compliant and controlled than with the Ohlins. What did surprise me was how much more harsh the front telelever felt (it is often suggested that the biggest improvements from changing the shocks is changing the rear) over small stutter bumps particularly while braking compared to the Ohlins unit.

The Ohlins units allow for the same suspension travel as the standard units but raise the seat height by about an inch.

All that said Ohlins shocks are not without their issues.

The shock were bought used around 2006-7. Both were serviced after purchase and springs changed (I have the standard springs as well) to suit me luggage and a pillion. The rear shock needed a new piston shaft as it was marked. The rear shock has been serviced 3 times in 50,000 miles as recommended by Ohlins and in that time has had a new piston and body due to internal wear (its now like triggers broom :) ) The front has been serviced once and has recently sprung a small leak hence reverting to standard shocks. Design wise for bad weather the Ohlins shocks are less protected than the standard shocks as the piston shaft front and rear is exposed.

I'm just about to get the Ohlins serviced and lowered a bit. At 62 now (I was 42 when I bought the bike) I like the height of the bike with the standard shocks particularly as I've fitted Sargent seats which raise the seat height that bit more.

Would I go back to standard shocks? Absolutley not as despite their drawbacks the bike rides SO much better (all the time and at all speeds) with them serviced and fitted. That said if you've never had them you'd never know.

(Full disclosure I started with Ohlins and Ktech forks on a GSXR 600 which I tracked and a 2006 R1 which was also tracked. ) the shock performance on those bikes at the track was astonishing compared to the cheap tat fitted to those bikes (particularly the R1 shock which was a mushy mess :) )

Just bought Ohlins front cartridges and rear shock for my Tenere
Can’t wait to try it out
 
My Hyperpros are now around 15yrs old and came at just the right time and price for me to replace the OEM 2000 model shocks. As new and still boxed in their straw lined nests, they set me back the huge sum of €220 plus delivery from eBay Germany and were serviced in 2021 by Lukasz at T-tech, adding nice yellow springs chosen for my weight and riding. Like good tyres and brakes, they inspire confidence and make it easy to point the GS just where I want it to go, whatever the road conditions.

They look pretty as well…😎

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I've ridden lot of miles on 1150GSs on all kinds of roads, both with standard shocks and with Ohlins. The difference is certainly very noticeable - not just when cornering but in terms of general ride quality on less than smooth roads too.

My current, new-to-me 1150 is on standard shocks at 38k miles and as observed above the harshness from the front is awful, and I'm talking about normal road ripples, not damaged surfaces. I'm currently waiting for a pair of WP shocks to be rebuilt and honestly I can't wait to get them - the standard front is terrible on anything other than fresh tarmac and the standard rear is wallowy in bends when pressing on and, I suspect, contributing towards a general feeling of 'looseness' - I've turned the damping up each time I ride it but it makes little difference.

Would the difference between new standard shocks and Ohlins or other quality aftermarket shocks be less? Almost certainly. But the difference would still be there. And none of us are riding on new standard shocks any more.
 
I've ridden lot of miles on 1150GSs on all kinds of roads, both with standard shocks and with Ohlins. The difference is certainly very noticeable - not just when cornering but in terms of general ride quality on less than smooth roads too.

My current, new-to-me 1150 is on standard shocks at 38k miles and as observed above the harshness from the front is awful, and I'm talking about normal road ripples, not damaged surfaces. I'm currently waiting for a pair of WP shocks to be rebuilt and honestly I can't wait to get them - the standard front is terrible on anything other than fresh tarmac and the standard rear is wallowy in bends when pressing on and, I suspect, contributing towards a general feeling of 'looseness' - I've turned the damping up each time I ride it but it makes little difference.

Would the difference between new standard shocks and Ohlins or other quality aftermarket shocks be less? Almost certainly. But the difference would still be there. And none of us are riding on new standard shocks any more.

There’s the correct answer
All my bikes have Ohlins or WP
 
Definitely notice the difference between o/e (mine have 20K on them) and Wilbers when I swap them when the aftermarket needs servicing, even the front.
 


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