Zumo/Autocom basic audio connection ?

[Agothaclypse]

Hi fellow tossers,
I have fitted my autocom Kit 200 Duo, taking power from horn fuse. Lovely peice of kit, all working flawlessly. I have my Ipod connected to Aux 2 using the supplied 1370 music lead & like the autocom muting facillity that cuts in when i speak to the missus on the back of the bike.
I have just purchased a zumo 550 although I have not plummed it in yet. For the time being I just want to be able to get the voice prompts from the zumo to my autocom headset, can I use the supplied 1240 standard phone lead into Aux 3 for this purpose or is this lead incompatable and/or have interference problems due to both Autocom & Zumo being bike powered.
If the lead is not suitable, which part number lead is ?
I am aware of the isolated zumot 1299 lead, but the autocom website lists this as for use with Aux 2, in which I have my ipod & wish to retain the music muting facility. Can lead 1299 be plugged into Aux3 & given that this has connection for both the Mic & audio of the zumo, will I then be able to pair my samsung D900 mobile to the Zumo & be able to make & recieve calls or does function require the bluetooth adaptor into Aux 1 or is both the cable & adaptor required ?
I can live without the phone capability, but would really like the cheapest option to recieve the zumo voice prompts.

Sorry for the long post but I have been trawling the forums & have been unable to find an answer, Im sure GSRich will know.

Kind regards
Paul.

 

[GSrich]

Hey Paul, its a good job I strayed away from the normal comms threads, for the better Zumo connections for you if you are still looking at running the seperate MP3 player and phone would be

1x Part 1317 £28 (Twin music adaptor)
1x Part 1308 £5 (2m music lead)
1x Part 1273 £75 (Bluetooth phone dongle)

Rich

 

[Agothaclypse]

Cheers

Thanks for advice GSRich, but I am still a bit confused. If I have both zumo & Ipod into 1317 mixer lead & that plugged into Aux 2, presumably both ipod & zumo audio are muted 50% when I or passenger talk, but If I have ipod playing, How will I hear the voice prompts from the zumo if they are both plugged into the same Aux socket on the Autocom. Is there some fancy electrickery in the 1317 mixer lead that mutes or cuts the "B" channel when audio is output on the A channel ?

Finally my Autocom manual says that Aux 3 is normaly for a GPS/radar connection yet there does not appear to be a lead to connect to this Skt & aux 3 does not appear to cut or mute the audio input on aux 2.

 

[beemerboy9]

The standard Autocom solution is based on the assumption that once you have the Zumo, then this will be used for all music eventaully - and you more or less discard the iPod. The second assumption is that bikers want to hear all music in stereo. whereas lead 1299 only gives mono music. Third assumption is that folks want a system that is also fully compatable with bike-to-bike at some time in the future without having a major rewire. Fourth assumption is that a mobile phone is an absolute must on a bike.
Early Zumo adopters unjustifiably gave Autocom a really hard time when they could not us all these features at once.
According to the Autocom website Sockets 1 and 3 on the Active-Plus (kit 200) are mono with microphone for radio or phone, whilst Aux 2 is stereo.
So if all you want to do is a cheap, interim solution to hear Navigation instructions (& not use the phone function or bike-to-bike) .... plug the Zumo into Aux 1 with a isolated lead or standard lead (1240) and isolator block (ring the factory to check what you need - but ask if a 1317 would do the job)). You can upgrade to the Bluetooth 1273 lead + 1317 at a later date.
Aux 1 will mute Aux 2.
If the GS Rich says that my solution will not work, then you'll have to go the whole hog, but is is not a major plumbing job.

 

[GSrich]

John you are wrong on the Part 1299 is run stereo music not mono.

So Paul if you are looking at running an ipod as you have said I am correct in the part numbers I have supplied you, after all it is my job to know which lead goes where etc. What John had recommended is not recommend and why buy the extra parts where I have supplied you the correct part numbers you will need. The only difference would be if you were to loose the mp3 player and run the music via the Zumo a Part 1314 would replace the Part 1317 and 1308.

The Aux 3 socket is there mainly for the older GPS's like the 2610, 2720 and also radar detectors, we do not supply any ocnnections for the Zumo's to be used via this socket.

Rich

 

[Agothaclypse]

Thanks for the info peeps, Starting to understand now why Aux 3 is not an option but I still have a couple of questions.

1. Part 1317 isolated stereo mixer plugged into aux 2 skt of bike powered autocom . If I connect the bike powered Zumo via the isolated input A of the 1317 & connect the internal-battery powered Ipod to the non isolated input B of the 1317 would audio from zumo voice prompts on input A, mute/cut the audio from the Ipod on input B ? Because this is what I wish to achieve.

2. Given that the zumo can be paired with a bluetooth headset & configured to pass all audio to this headset, Is it possible to have the phone paired with the zumo & then have the zumo paired also with the Autocom bluetooth part 1273 & have all audio from the zumo (music, phone & voice prompts) passed via bluetooth part 1273 on Autocom Aux 1, thus cutting the audio input from ipod on aux 2 ?

I understand that the zumo only does a mono signal via bluetooth which I do not mind for voice prompts & phone as I will not be using the Zumo for music because most of my music collection is stored as DRM protected AAC files, thus neccessitating the retention of the ipod for music.

Kind regards
Paul.

 

[beemerboy9]

Thanks for the info peeps, Starting to understand now why Aux 3 is not an option but I still have a couple of questions.

1. Part 1317 isolated stereo mixer plugged into aux 2 skt of bike powered autocom . If I connect the bike powered Zumo via the isolated input A of the 1317 & connect the internal-battery powered Ipod to the non isolated input B of the 1317 would audio from zumo voice prompts on input A, mute/cut the audio from the Ipod on input B ?

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2. Given that the zumo can be paired with a bluetooth headset & configured to pass all audio to this headset, Is it possible to have the phone paired with the zumo & then have the zumo paired also with the Autocom bluetooth part 1273 & have all audio from the zumo (music, phone & voice prompts) passed via bluetooth part 1273 on Autocom Aux 1, thus cutting the audio input from ipod on aux 2 ?

This is the basis of GS Rich's solution. Pair the phone with the Zumo and pair the Zumo with part 1273 and thereby take the phone and voice prompts into Aux 1 and up to the Autocom headset. If you are not going to use the Zumo for music, then plug the iPod straight into Aux2.

I understand that the zumo only does a mono signal via bluetooth which I do not mind for voice prompts & phone as I will not be using the Zumo for music because most of my music collection is stored as DRM protected AAC files, thus neccessitating the retention of the ipod for music.

Kind regards
Paul.

 

[Agothaclypse]

Cheers Beemerboy,
That is the answer I was hoping for, I shall get me one of those 1273 bluetooth dongles ordered forthwith.

Kind regards
Paul.