Rear Wheel Play, what bearings do i need?

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Got a bit of play appearing in my back end :ymca

When i shake the rear wheel there's play at 3-9 and 12-6. Haven't been able to determine whether it's just the wheel bearing (output bearing?) or whether it's within the paralever assy.

I want to order all of the possibly suspect bearings as I don't want to get it stripped and find i don't have whats required.

Could someone tell me the parts list names of what I'll need to order to cover all the bases? It's for an 1100

Cheers

Pigglet
 
If i were you, and you can't tell where the play is, i wouldn't do the job.


Plus you could be wasting a lot of money on bearings and seals that you don't need . :nenau.

Simple basic non-subtle test for those that can't work out where the play is - Try adjusting the paralever bearing first, (you don't even have to take the rear wheel off). If the play dissappears. That'll be where the play was. A bonus trying it that way, is you may not need to replace anything at all.
 
Find out the cause first before you order anything. It could be bolts loose or cone bearings damaged/worn in paralever assy rather than FDs main bearing.

It's easy to find out - get some additional pair of hands to help you, while one shakes the rear wheel in the perpendicular direction you can touch the paralever assy to see or feel where it plays, while touching support your other hand or other part of the hand with the rest of the frame or assy, then you sense immedietly where things aren't right.

Looking at your description how it plays, I reckon it's probably fekked cone bearings that connect the FD wheel supporting axle to paralever swingarm. Probably previously overtightened bolts (needs only 5Nm of torque on one side when tightening!) that fekked the bearings or just done too much work/bumps.
 
Aye, your right. I'll get the Missus to hold the brake on tonight then. My thinking was that it wouldn't be a bad idea to have the bearings in my garage as a "just in case" so that if i didn't need them this weekend I'd have spares for future use or to take on an extended trip.

It's the fact that it seems to have got significantly worse in the last 200 miles that makes me think somethings going west.

Sods law, I sold the car last night too :rolleyes:
 
Steptoe said:
Now you can spend all the money on parts. :D
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Tell me about it :rolleyes:

Anyhoo, with the aid of a willing assistant I've deternined that with the back brake on, the whole final drive assy moves slightly when the wheel is shaken in the 12&6 position.

There is a tiny bit of movement at 9 & 3 but not as much as 12 & 6.

Paralever bearing? The situation I'm trying to avoid is being stuck without transport and not able to repair it untill next week if i don't order parts today.

I'd rather have £50 worth of bits on the shelf and the bike sorted on saturday than being unable to get to work on Monday.

Do the the bearings deteriorate quickly or as there's only a small amount of play (1mm ish) would it last till Tuesday, allowing me to see if it'll adjust out tonight :nenau
 
Should also add when i said it's got significanly worse I meant in terms of on road feel which might be due to the fact i now know there's movement there. After checking it now the actual play doesn't seem to have got much worse since Monday.
 
I'd go for the option of just nipping them up a tad'..... mine was failed at the last MOT for the same thing, I zipped off home for the hot air gun (loctite) threads, socket and exstension through the spokes not even quarter turn and removed the play that was about 2500 miles ago. I never did get round to ordering new bits.
 
I'll give that a go :aidan
I keep forgetting that there's a dealer about 45 mins up the road :blast Suppose i can hesh up to mill for the bits on saturday if it doesn't adjust up.
 
PIGGLET said:
I'll give that a go :aidan
I keep forgetting that there's a dealer about 45 mins up the road :blast Suppose i can hesh up to mill for the bits on saturday if it doesn't adjust up.
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Hi Graham.

Ain't your bike still in warrenty :nenau Or has it just expired.

Talk to your daeler first re; doing a good will jobbie.


PS: What was the cause your problem at Llangollen? simple water in the electrics?

Val.
 
VAL. H. said:
Hi Graham.

Ain't your bike still in warrenty :nenau Or has it just expired.

Talk to your daeler first re; doing a good will jobbie.


PS: What was the cause your problem at Llangollen? simple water in the electrics?

Val.
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Who's Graham :nenau :D

Cheers northern git, sussed out what i need, the two paralever/pivot bearings and will do the output bearing while I'm on with it.

Bearings, screen, rear shock, the money from the car is being allocated at an alarming rate :D
 
northengit said:
Have a look here , for p/n info and some good diagrams.
http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/fiche.asp
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Blimey - must have got my stupid head on! Which fiche for the rear wheel bearing assembly please?

Also, I have read so much on various web pages about replacing the rear wheel bearings that I am confused!

My rear wheel bearing passed its MOT ('89 R80GS) - no play but you can feel a slight roughness when spinning the rear wheel.

Is a repair within the capability of the "ordinary man in his shed"? What did you do Pigglet?

Brian
 
Brain, have a look here
I only replaced the paralever bearings at the final drive end as thats were my play was. By all accounts the large final drive output or wheel bearing is easier and can be done with the final drive assembly still on the bike.
Replacing the paralever bearings was easy with nothing more specialised than a 3/8 ans 1/2 torque wrench needed.
Timolgra gave a step by step guide for replacement of wheel bearing on an oil head which you should be able to find by searching the technical section.
Basically take of the circular cover behind the wheel, prize out the bearing with a pair of tyre levers (not sure if oil seal comes out first as I've not had a go),
warm new bearing in a pan, pop it on :thumb2
I'm sure someone will be able to give a more detailed procedure, try the airhead crew:aidan
 
Thanks for the excellent link Pigglet - I think I will now get the bike in the workshop and take it from there.
 
Steptoe said:
Excuse me for pointing out the obvious -Brain doesn't have a 1100/1150 GS

He has an R80. Which has a some slight but none the less substantial differences.
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I know, I figured if he is living up to his recently aquired new name he'd be able to suss out if the info given was relative or not :D
 
VAL. H. said:
Hi Graham.

Ain't your bike still in warrenty :nenau Or has it just expired.

Talk to your daeler first re; doing a good will jobbie.


PS: What was the cause your problem at Llangollen? simple water in the electrics?

Val.
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Val your thinking of PIGGERS
 
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