I think it is AndyB_11 that often mentions a suggestion to try roads in this part of the map. With that in mind, here (unashamedly cut from a freebie in a German magazine) are some ideas on rides a and hotels in the area. The maps shown are good enough quality to be zoomable on a PC or iPad to allow anyone to copy them. Failing that, just copy the tour code for the route into Kurviger. If nothing else, it might make a change from going to the Black Forest, again.