New Garmin GPS - 'Quest'

Banjaxed · Jul 12, 2004

Now this looks promising:
Waterproof, 115mb memory, City Select, rechargable lithium battery, fast processor, colour screen...

OK Pan, what's the verdict? OK it's City Select, rather than City Navigator, but with a list price of $643 for the US version (vs $1167 for 2610) it's looking good.

phil adams · Jul 12, 2004

gps

Found a 2610 at www.etronics.com $731 dollars. OK so they do'nt ship to the UK, but I've got around that. You just need to get hold of the base map of your choice, and maybe more memory.

PanEuropean · Jul 13, 2004

Hi Paul:

Interesting looking product. Thanks for posting the news about it here (I was unaware of the product until I read your post).

Sort of looks to me like it is a GPS V replacement, so to speak - fairly powerful, small, with a fixed amount of memory.

My guess - based only on reading the Garmin specs for the unit (found at Garmin's Website - Quest product details) is that it will fill a hole between the top of the line SP 26xx products - which have a bigger screen, expandable memory, and the remote - and the lighter-duty 'dual-market' GPSR's like the 60's.

I think I would want to see one in person before expressing any opinion about how suitable it would be for motorcycle touring. It appears to have all the software tricks built in, but we can't really tell from looking at the website how big the unit is, how big the screen is, and what level of detail can be seen on the screen.

PanEuropean

BurnieM · Jul 13, 2004

Hmmm, I never thought about it but perhaps it is the GPS V replacement.
Has 115MB of internal memory and is packaged with City Select

Waterproof and with a rechargeable battery (like the GPSmap 276C)

Screen dimensions at 1.5 x 2.2 inches is exactly the same as the GPSmap 60C/76C which makes it quite small.
There is a lot of info on the screen in the pictures and it will be interesting to see how readable it will be in real life.

Keith Chapman · Jul 13, 2004

How much memory?

The spec for the quest says

Internal memory: 115 megabyte internal memory (U.S. only)

Will the memory be different for europe???

richie · Jul 13, 2004

Looks really cool, I, by the way have the same screen on mine. It is indeed smaller than the 2610 but very readable, so don't let the screen size turn you off. In fact I find this type of screen easier to read on the bike than in the car...

PanEuropean · Jul 13, 2004

Will the memory be different for europe???

I have no idea what Garmin plans for Europe, however, as the cartography products have matured, the difference in data density between North America and Europe has become more pronounced. Because of more complex road structures - and more comprehensive listing of points of interest - the European cartography now takes up almost twice as much space per million population as the North American cartography.

So, I would not be surprised to see the European versions of the automotive GPSRs ship with larger standard memory configurations.

PanEuropean

Gecko · Jul 13, 2004

Bleedin heck.....they are bringing out a new one almost every week.....this is getting depressing

I thought I was really happy with my 60c now I've seen this and the 276 and I'm really depressed

richie · Jul 13, 2004

Gecko said:
Bleedin heck.....they are bringing out a new one almost every week.....this is getting depressing I thought I was really happy with my 60c now I've seen this and the 276 and I'm really depressed

Cut the crap Marc, The GPS 276 was out when you bought yours. The 60C is more versatile for walking riding car,ing bla bla bla...

This new one is nice, but I'm happy with what I have...

Gecko · Jul 13, 2004

Yeah so am I but I just felt like whinging a bit. To be honest I hadn't really checked out the 276 until MiGSel showed me one he had for a while. It makes me wonder though, because they do seem to be bringing out newer , faster and cheaper units with alarming frequency and as I paid top money for my GPS V and lost a bundle when I sold it on 2 years later I wonder what the 60c will be worth in 6 months ? Garmin are getting worse than Microsoft or Yamaha

BurnieM · Jul 14, 2004

Features will go up and prices will go down just like PCs.

If you wait for the perfect unit priced just right then you will never buy one. And in the meantime you will miss out on using some damn good equipment.

PanEuropean · Jul 14, 2004

Gecko wrote:

...I paid top money for my GPS V and lost a bundle when I sold it on 2 years...

Gecko, really, what colour is the sky on your planet? :confused:

Any consumer electronics product - cell phone, computer, GPSR, etc. - can be considered 'fully depreciated' after about 18 months. By this I mean the residual value of the object is pretty much nil after about 2 years, due to advances in technology.

The GPS V you bought still performed exactly as well on the day you sold it as it did on the day you bought it. In fact, it probably performed better 2 years later, as a result of system software updates and cartography updates. So, why did you get rid of it? It still worked perfectly.

If your response is "Well, I got rid of it because I wanted a newer model with more bells and whistles", then refer back to paragraph 1.

I change GPSR's pretty frequently, because I like to stay on top of that particular technology. Same with computers. So, I accept the fact that I have to take the depreciation hit anytime I trade up. On the other hand, I still use the Motorola cell phone I bought in 1998, because it does absolutely everything I want a cell phone to do just as well as the 2004 models (namely, make and receive telephone calls). The only thing that would get me upset about my cell phone would be if it broke, however, I suppose 6 years of service is fair enough out of a cell phone that cost $300 when new.

PanEuropean

Joe · Jul 14, 2004

Paneuropean

Nothing to do with GPS's.

I was looking at one of your posting last week it shows a photo of an auxiliy fuse bus, Could you tell me where you got it from,

joe

AdamZ · Jul 14, 2004

PanEuropean said:
...Gecko, really, what colour is the sky on your planet? Any consumer electronics product - cell phone, computer, GPSR, etc. - can be considered 'fully depreciated' after about 18 months...... .. In fact, it probably performed better 2 years later, as a result of system software updates and cartography updates. So, why did you get rid of it? It still worked perfectly. ....... On the other hand, I still use the Motorola cell phone I bought in 1998 ...PanEuropean

Pan,

Could not agree more...

...my desktop at home is now 2 years old and performs the same functions today as it did 2 years ago, even latest games are not perceptibly slower (well my kids do not seem to notice the difference. Why would I want to upgrade?

.... My latest all singing mobile/pda broke 4 weeks ago and I am using one from 4 years ago. Beside the fact it is held together with sellotape it still does all the functions I really need... why did I upgrade?

... my Streetpilot still gets me to the places I want to get to without difficulty ... why would I want a 2610?

... my GSA still provides me as much fun, in fact much, much more fun... why would I want to go to an 1200?....

BurnieM · Jul 14, 2004

AdamZ said:
... my Streetpilot still gets me to the places I want to get to without difficulty ... why would I want a 2610?

Actually a SP2610 is much faster, the screen is better and the data card can be much bigger.
All reasons to go to a later generation but as you say, your SPIII still works fine.

PanEuropean · Jul 14, 2004

Joe:

The aux fuse panel I use is made by a company in the USA called Blue Sea Systems.

Gecko · Jul 14, 2004

PanEuropean said:
Gecko wrote:
Gecko, really, what colour is the sky on your planet? Any consumer electronics product - cell phone, computer, GPSR, etc. - can be considered 'fully depreciated' after about 18 months. By this I mean the residual value of the object is pretty much nil after about 2 years, due to advances in technology.

The GPS V you bought still performed exactly as well on the day you sold it as it did on the day you bought it. In fact, it probably performed better 2 years later, as a result of system software updates and cartography updates. So, why did you get rid of it? It still worked perfectly.

If your response is "Well, I got rid of it because I wanted a newer model with more bells and whistles", then refer back to paragraph 1.

I change GPSR's pretty frequently, because I like to stay on top of that particular technology. Same with computers. So, I accept the fact that I have to take the depreciation hit anytime I trade up. On the other hand, I still use the Motorola cell phone I bought in 1998, because it does absolutely everything I want a cell phone to do just as well as the 2004 models (namely, make and receive telephone calls). The only thing that would get me upset about my cell phone would be if it broke, however, I suppose 6 years of service is fair enough out of a cell phone that cost $300 when new.

PanEuropean

I know...I know....I know....but Mrs Gecko just doesn't understand

PanEuropean · Jul 15, 2004

Ah - now I understand. Who was it that made that great post about 3 months ago - just bought a fancy new GPSR, but couldn't find an address with it (might have been the mother-in-law's address) and the wife would't let up on the criticism? That was a good one....

PanEuropean

TheJoker · Jul 15, 2004

Hmmmmm...
This one looks very interesting.

I'd say a quick description of it is a slightly souped up 60C in landscape mode?

The 60C is $482.13 (off the Garmin site) and the Quest is $642.84.

A 60C can be found for roughly £330, if the price will be the "same" (in percentage {Quest costs 133% of 60C) then the Quest will be roughly £440...

... and the Quest would include cartography, cables and mounts...

To have that with the 60C you'd get this package, from aspid shop that costs roughly £461 (excl shipping)...

... That's £20 cheaper (*ahem* roughly) than the 60C....

Verdict: I'll wait a bit with my GPSR purchase...

Oh, and please correct me if I'm wrong.

richie · Jul 15, 2004

Sounds good to me Joker.. It is the one to get... The 60C is a good buy and even better if you already have the software. If your main use is bike and car and you need the software you are probably right to wait for it.

Let us all know how good we know it will be

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