1 day old R1250GSA battery failure....Not happy

[JJH]

I wonder if they have recently changed the supplier and quality of the batteries (penny shaving) as this seems to be the pattern for BMW Motorrad now.

RBW.

Bmw have had battery problems for the last 35 years at least if you include cars. JJH

 

[Steptoe]

A battery failure is no different to getting a puncture. Shit happens.

It worked perfectly until it stopped.. that's how electrical parts roll.

 

[Delboy777]

Maybe not the battery, maybe something wrong with the alternator ? Who knows, i trust they will test it before you get the bike back.


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[Wapping]

I was thinking that. 10 minute job get the customer back up and running ASAP, put the ordered one on the showroom bike. THAT would have been better service. Unless there is a reason they won’t.

There is a very simple reasons why dealers are reluctant. These will include:

A. It’s not life threatening

B. Where do you draw the line? A battery? A seat? A footrest assembly? A rear light cluster?

C. Dealers do not have bikes hanging around. What would you, as a punter coming in to buy a bike, think if told: “Yeah mate, you can have this one now, ‘cept we took the left hand switch gear off to give to a bloke. We’ll put it back, good as new”. You’d be asking for another discount or some letter in triplicate that if it develops a fault you’ll be given a new bike or some such nonsense

D. What happens when the chimp with the spanner scratches the tank when he’s removing the battery or drops it? That’s two bikes out of action, not one

Feck me, it’s a battery that’s failed. Yup, on a brand new bike. The battery has probably sat down in a warehouse for months or even years, before finding its way into a ‘new’ bike. The OP will get over it or he’ll never will, his entire ownership ‘experience’ (everything is an experience these days) will have been ruined. He can return to UKGSer for urgent advice on how to proceed with the rest of his life.... or he can ask his mum.

PS Any cnut that writes:

....tucked it into the cozy garage for the night....

Needs shagging with a pineapple.

 

[JJH]

A new battery shouldn’t fail. Maybe it was swapped in? Wouldn’t be the first time. JJH

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

There is a very simple reasons why dealers are reluctant. These will include:

A. It’s not life threatening

B. Where do you draw the line? A battery? A seat? A footrest assembly? A rear light cluster?

C. Dealers do not have bikes hanging around. What would you, as a punter coming in to buy a bike, think if told: “Yeah mate, you can have this one now, ‘cept we took the left hand switch gear off to give to a bloke. We’ll put it back, good as new”. You’d be asking for another discount or some letter in triplicate that if it develops a fault you’ll be given a new bike or some such nonsense

D. What happens when the chimp with the spanner scratches the tank when he’s removing the battery or drops it? That’s two bikes out of action, not one

Feck me, it’s a battery that’s failed. Yup, on a brand new bike. The battery has probably sat down in a warehouse for months or even years, before finding its way into a ‘new’ bike. The OP will get over it or he’ll never will, his entire ownership ‘experience’ (everything is an experience these days) will have been ruined. He can return to UKGSer for urgent advice on how to proceed with the rest of his life.... or he can ask his mum.

Are we having a good day today

Andres

 

[Wapping]

Are we having a good day today

Andres

It’s getting better.

 

[Steptoe]

A new battery shouldn’t fail.

But they do. More often than you'd think.

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

It’s getting better.

That makes me very happy

Andres

 

[Arsey]

That makes me very hippy

Andres

Fixed

 

[Sea Dog]

A new battery shouldn’t fail. Maybe it was swapped in? Wouldn’t be the first time. JJH

It won't have been a "new" battery - it'll have been sat in the bike since build. If no-one was making an effort to keep it charged, it'll have gone flat. Once lead acid batteries go properly flat, they're damaged. Some folk think they can recharge them and they'll be fine. Mostly, they won't be. It'll have been charged, in PDI perhaps, assumed OK, then failed later. The good news is that it'll be replaced under warranty with a nice new one. An inconvenience, but quite a likely failure point that won't be repeated in the OP's ownership.

 

[JJH]

It won't have been a "new" battery - it'll have been sat in the bike since build. If no-one was making an effort to keep it charged, it'll have gone flat. Once lead acid batteries go properly flat, they're damaged. Some folk think they can recharge them and they'll be fine. Mostly, they won't be. It'll have been charged, in PDI perhaps, assumed OK, then failed later. The good news is that it'll be replaced under warranty with a nice new one. An inconvenience, but quite a likely failure point that won't be repeated in the OP's ownership.

Battery’s don’t go off that quick. When placed on a new bike their not connected up till the bike is pdid. BMW bikes are mostly built to order so the delay can’t be that long. Batteries are also date stamped. There’s no reason for the battery to become totally discharged so that leaves a faulty unit or someone pulling a stroke. JJH

 

[Wapping]

There’s no reason for the battery to become totally discharged so that leaves a faulty unit or someone pulling a stroke.

And what then?

Replace it, within a reasonable period whilst giving the bod a replacement bike for a day?

Sue the arse off BMW?

Boil inside?

Sulk?

Kill them all, with fire. Lots of fire?

Spend hours investigating who has ‘Pulled a stroke’ and why? Then, seek advice on how to deal with it via UKGSer?

Join the local chapter of likeminded folk?

 

[Wapping]

That makes me very happy

Andres

That’s great, mate. Health to enjoy. Made up for you.

PS I have never understood what ‘Made up for you’ means.

 

[JJH]

And what then?

Replace it, within a reasonable period whilst giving the bod a replacement bike for a day?

Sue the arse off BMW?

Boil inside?

Sulk?

Kill them all, with fire. Lots of fire?

Spend hours investigating who has ‘Pulled a stroke’ and why? Then, seek advice on how to deal with it via UKGSer?

Join the local chapter of likeminded folk?

I’m surprised the dealer doesn’t have one in stock. JJH

 

[Delboy777]

And what then?

Replace it, within a reasonable period whilst giving the bod a replacement bike for a day?

Sue the arse off BMW?

Boil inside?

Sulk?

Kill them all, with fire. Lots of fire?

Spend hours investigating who has ‘Pulled a stroke’ and why? Then, seek advice on how to deal with it via UKGSer?

Join the local chapter of likeminded folk?

Fuck me all this angst about a bods battery you on ya monthly by any chance ?


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[Wapping]

I’m surprised the dealer doesn’t have one in stock. JJH

I’m surprised you don’t buy something as simple as travel insurance. But hey, life is full of surprises.

 

[Big Si]

On that measure, so is hopping on one leg

How else do you hop? Hopping on two legs is called jumping.

 

[Big Si]

Battery’s don’t go off that quick. When placed on a new bike their not connected up till the bike is pdid. BMW bikes are mostly built to order so the delay can’t be that long. Batteries are also date stamped. There’s no reason for the battery to become totally discharged so that leaves a faulty unit or someone pulling a stroke. JJH

That was my point before everyone jumped down my throat. Given that the dealership knew OP was coming in to collect on a given date, how much trouble would it be to hook it up to a smart charger the afternoon before, start it the next day and put a voltmeter across it to check all was well?

If it failed after 24 hours after that (unlikely), then the dealer would be safe in the knowledge that they had done all they could pre-delivery.

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

How else do you hop? Hopping on two legs is called jumping.

Ah, yes, but therein lies the problem

Andres